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to want to stop breastfeeding just because...

204 replies

takingiteasy · 25/05/2012 23:18

I do? Oh I dunno if I'm making much sense but here goes. Ds2 is almost 5 weeks old. Both he and I took to feeding really well and have had no real problems. He's gained a pound since birth, sleeps well, only gets up once in the night and is very content. I took a bout of mastitis a couple of weeks back but we fed through it and coped.

So in spite of all this I am thinking about stopping. My reasons are so selfish. I feel like I do nothing but feed I swear I'm going to get pressure sores from sitting on the sofa. I haven't spent any decent time with ds1 and miss that. Thinkin forward I would quite like a night off sometime in the next wee while and a gin

In all honesty I wasn't expecting to get this far. I only made it ti day 5 with ds1 and have no guilt. I sais I'd give it another go this time round but really didn't think it would work and here I am looking for an excuse to stop. All the while there are women putting themselves through hell to do it.

I also have zero.sex.drive which is no fun.

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Proudnscary · 26/05/2012 08:43

Of course you are not being unreasonable!

Why are you even seeking opinion on this? Your body, your baby, your life.

Oh and MrsPaperBackWriter - perhaps OP and other new mothers should flagellate themselves as penance if thoughts of their own needs enter their evil, selfish heads?

LST · 26/05/2012 08:46

I was just ignoring that one proud Grin

willyoustillloveme · 26/05/2012 08:53

paperback What shitty post. The op has carried her baby through pregnancy and bf for 5 weeks. She is intending to feed her baby formula not ribena. Hardly selfish. It might be a hard fall from your high horse. Hmm

Proudnscary · 26/05/2012 08:56

LST/willyou - let's be kind, sounds like paperback is not a happy bunny with that level of bile and bitterness aimed at a totally pleasant-sounding stranger on t'interweb!

NameGotLostInCyberspace · 26/05/2012 08:59

I remember thinking around the 2/3 month mark, I am so glad I don't bottle feed! So much easier and faster. I think the first months are harder as you both get used to it but it pays for itself later.
Your choice though. Don't feel huilty whatever you decide :)

LST · 26/05/2012 09:06

But you'll always get some trying to make you feel guilty for your choices.....

Iggly · 26/05/2012 09:17

Missing your DS1, not wanting sex etc - a lot of that is to do with having a new baby.

My DD (dc2) was always quite a quick feeder from the off (just every two hours) and I still felt I had no time for DS (PFB). I felt torn in two, couldn't make time for him as dd needed me being so small and tiny. Yes she'd get hungry and need me but she also got tired, and needed me, lonely, and needed me etc etc. BF was part of how I soothed her but not all.

Maybe the switch to FF will help you work out how to spend time with your eldest more because it's what you know and understand?

If you do give up BF, do it slowly. One bottle every now and then and see if it helps? But your baby will still need you and will still take time away from your eldest (that was the hardest thing for me, I'd forgotten just how much newborns need you)

Jenny70 · 26/05/2012 09:22

What is best for your baby? Breastmilk. Plenty of research shows that, it really is unquestionable.

What is best for you? Possibly formula, but possibly not.

-Will you get your sex drive back on formula, who knows - 2 kids take alot from you, and maybe their needs will still make you feel "touched out" by the end of the day.

-Yes, you will be able to share feeds and have a gin/night out.
-Baby sounds very settled at present and baby may be equally settled on formula, but possibly not - maybe formula will agree with them, but also could give baby tummy pains, wind etc.... so changing foods may have no impact on baby being settled, or it could get worse leading to a crying baby and jealous older child, as well as exhausted you.

  • Baby won't be getting your immune factors if you stop, so may get some illnesses (especially if older child is socialising with lots of kids).

Personally I would recommend sticking with it, getting out and about with your older child as much as possible, take them to the park, library etc. You can breastfeed baby anywhere (and no need to take bottles etc) - one of the great bonuses of bf is it is so portable. Don't get imprints from the couch, get out and about - feeding will get quicker.

But this is your decision, this is what I would do, but that doesn't make you wrong if you do something else, just different. Breastmilk is best, but formula is an alternative available to you.

WhiteWidow · 26/05/2012 09:23

Anyone who's saying it's selfish of you needs to seriously think about their comments.

It's your body, it's your child. Who is anyone else to judge you, especially going as far to say you're selfish. Being a mum is the most selfless job in the world.

You've even said you don't feel you're getting enough time with child 1, if I was you I'd just express your milk, you'd be able to be more mobile with a bottle and your partner will be able to help.
Just do what feels best :)

WhiteWidow · 26/05/2012 09:25

Also,
'breast milk is best' obviously this statement is going to be true, but have there been noticeable differences compared to a baby on formula?

TalHotBlond · 26/05/2012 09:27

If you want to stop, stop. It's not a biggie. Really it isn't. Hope you are ok.

Iggly · 26/05/2012 09:51

What do you mean by noticeable? I think we should put aside whether BM is better than FM because that's an established fact. Hence formula companies trying to replicate it.

The OP knows what's better in once sense but has other issues to think about other than a comparison between ff and BM.

MrsRhettButler · 26/05/2012 09:52

Why do people make out like ff is soooo stressful and time consuming? Washing all those bottles, (that'll be about 6 tiny bottles at this stage btw) surely you wash up your other cutlery/crockery? It's really NOT a big deal.

Stress about temp of water, how long to sterilise.... (you figure this out the first day and then it's fine)

Getting up to feed at night, having to go downstairs. ... it's a fact that ff babies have less feeds than bf so depending on what time you go to bed this can mean ONE nighttime feed. Mine fed at 8am,midday, 4pm, 8pm and midnight. (Some babies may need a 4am feed whilst they are tiny but mine didn't)

They generally get themselves into a routine as I fed on demand and they both slipped into this without my help.

Proudnscary · 26/05/2012 09:56

MrsRhett - or alternatively buy the ready made cartons which is what I did!

rainbowinthesky · 26/05/2012 09:59

I never really understand these threads. I bf mine for a very long time but this has no bearing on what other people should do. I dont want any more kids and part of the reason is I really dont want to breastfeed again ever.

The main reason though I dont agree with these threads is because of the underlying expectation that women shouldnt be selfish. I do lots of selfish things in my life every day as a human and as a parent and I see nothing wrong with being selfish as a parent.

Disclaimer before someone jumps on me for being a cruel parent this selfishness excludes any acts of cruelty in any shape or form.

WhiteWidow · 26/05/2012 10:03

Iglly - I say this because people are always banging on about breast is best, and some make mums feel crappy for not breast feeding, but if the formula is just as good and there is no noticeable difference, where I the harm Hmm why is it frowned upon.

ShowOfHands · 26/05/2012 10:04

This thread right here is why you shouldn't post about bfing in aibu. Somebody will always post an insensitive and cruel post () and suddenly we're into accusations of bfing militia and ff equated to poison. It's such a false dichotomy and comes from how emotive bfing is as a subject and the statistical likelihood of there being one crass person on a thread of people trying to help. For once let's just accept that one person can have views which they express rudely and they don't speak for the majority or represent a 'cause'.

OP, I have an older child who started primary school when ds was 4 days old (he's 8 months old now) and there's a certain sadness about seeing their brave and weary acceptance of their new sibling and the demands they bring. I felt so very guilty about how good dd was about waiting her turn for my affections but I understand now with hindsight that it was a good thing in a lot of ways. She grew a lot emotionally in that time. She saw how important her tiny brother's needs were and I involved her as much as possible so that she was an ally, helping to ensure her baby brother's needs were met so that he could grow and thrive. And now that he can chase after her and knock down towers she builds for him and clap his hands at his brilliant big sister, their bond is extraordinarily beautiful. Because she appreciates the work that went into it and he appreciates her taking the time to get to know him as he emerged from the hellish newborn bit. You've given your child a sibling. The positives of this far, far outweight the negatives, despite what your hormones try and tell you right now.

I don't think a full switch to ff is necessarily the answer, not if you feel guilty even for thinking it. It does get better. Make sure you set aside time for your eldest on their own. I always made sure that in an evening ds was fed and clean and handed him over to dh so that I could bath with dd, read to her, do homework etc. If ds really protested then he went in the sling. In fact he lived in the sling for months and I managed to chase dd round the park, walk with her, read, play etc etc.

Have a bash at expressing and don't feel bad for having a glass of wine. I don't drink but friends who do have a glass of wine while bfing and are confident and happy with this. You have also given formula and know that ds will take it so there's no reason why you can't give the odd feed here or there if you want to.

But if you want to switch entirely then you do so. This is your baby and your lives together.

When I had my first I resented being chained to the sofa. But I hadn't really realised that I was stuck in a self-perpetuating circle. If I sat on the sofa with dd then all there was for her to do was feed. So she did. And I sat. And she fed. And I seethed. When I had ds, I was too busy with dd to sit. So I got up and put ds in the sling. And he fell asleep due to the motion or when a bit older he started looking around and being nosy and I felt more like myself, less chained, less of a machine.

The early days are hard, bfing or not. And we all feel guilty I think. I don't think reasonable comes into it. It is what it is. If I'm utterly honest with you then yes I think if you can find a way to make bfing work for you then that is probably the option to choose over a straight switch to formula. For all the reasons detailed on here. But it's about making bfing right for you, not doggedly pursuing it to the detriment of your health and familial relationships. There are choices involved in bfing, you aren't shackled to it. It's a relationship. You work hard at it, make a few compromises, stand firm on other stuff and hopefully enjoy it. If not you leave the bastard.

WhiteWidow · 26/05/2012 10:04

Also Iglly, my comment wasn't directed at the OP it was directed at the people going on about it.

ShowOfHands · 26/05/2012 10:07

rainbow, I agree. Bog all wrong with being selfish. Same as there's bog all wrong with a baby being manipulative. It's about ensuring survival. Physical and mental wellbeing are safeguarded by selfishness. We're all selfish. We have to be to be survive. People forget that we're not only or always selfish, just sometimes.

MyNameIsntFUCKINGWarren · 26/05/2012 10:12

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thebody · 26/05/2012 10:13

Don't understand to be honest, how you feed your baby is entirely your business and nobody else's.

Selfishness doesn't enter into bf or ff. just personal choice.

ShowOfHands · 26/05/2012 10:17

See, the hormones of having a baby make you say/do/think all sorts of crap. Look at Warren, she's clearly drunk hormonal

KateSpade · 26/05/2012 10:21

I didnt breastfeed and its the best decision i ever made, for myself personally. Some people (not MN Midwives in the hospital) try to force you into doing it.

But, it was 100% right for me. So I'd say stop & get yourself some gin woman!

MyNameIsntFUCKINGWarren · 26/05/2012 10:23

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babylann · 26/05/2012 10:44

That was a really great post, showofhands. I'd already decided I'm going to bf for longer ' next time' but have secretly worried about it from time to time. You've convinced me that it can work and I can be happy with it though.

I very much found it a chore last time round, that was probably my own fault for allowing it to be so.