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to think that "refrigerator mothers" = ones on the ASD spectrum?

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Anna1976 · 03/04/2012 00:03

AIBU to think that people are missing the point?
In today's BBC news article about France's psychoanalytic treatment of autism, there is this little box of explanation:

From the 1950s to the 1970s, autism was frequently attributed to emotional frigidity on the part of the mother. In a 1949 paper, psychiatrist Leo Kanner suggested "parental coldness, obsessiveness, and a mechanical type of attention to material needs only" left children in "refrigerators" and caused them to withdraw and "seek comfort in solitude". Some experts who believe autism is a psychological disorder continue to regard poor parenting as the source of the problem.

Parental coldness, obsessiveness and mechanical attention to material needs, to me, sounds like those parents may have had ASD and been struggling to cope. As someone with Asperger's I completely recognise the feelings that lead to me appearing cold, obsessive and mechanical - and if one thing would induce those feelings reproducibly, it would be enforced societal expectation to have babies and nurture them like a perfect 1950s housewife, when all i wanted to do is get away and have some peace.

AIBU to think that it would be appropriate to acknowledge that ASD is a pervasive developmental disorder, but also that it does have a genetic basis - and thus note that "refrigerator mothers" could (do) actually exist and could benefit from help? If the parents don't get the basis of what they're teaching their kid, it's not going to work well... I think we need both the neurodevelopmental side, and the psychosocial side of the explanation, given that most of the useful strategies in later life are psychosocial ones.

I'm absolutely not saying that it's refrigerator mothers' fault their kids have ASD - I'm saying that it would be important to look at the parents and whether they also need some of the strategies being taught to their kids.

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Peachy · 05/04/2012 14:19

Hoebag we know it is genetic for some- tehre have been genes linked and twin studies etc show that.

We also know for some it is not- eg those who develop it after a serious infection or trauma.

ASD isn't a thing; it's the name given to a certain set of presenting symtpoms that when dispalyed together earn that label. Aetiology is not assumed (we KNOW there are many different ones).

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 05/04/2012 14:32

Bollocks.

I have Aspergers / autism and BECAUSE of that and the way that I have been "parented" by my refrigerator adoptive parents I was determined to do differently for my DC although I didn't have a diagnosis or even a clue that I was different at the time.

As it happens, DS turned out to be autistic. If I had listened to the parenting theories raised by my parents and the outlaws about no holding, no picking-up, no BF, no co-sleeping then I think I may have lost him forever.

It is very challenging to do all those things with a child who still cries whatever you do to parent in a responsive manner. It is very disheartening to BF a child who will not give you eye-contact for two years. But given the progress my son has made it was well worth it.

Hoebag · 05/04/2012 16:40

That JR centre link made me sick is it still allowed to operate??

Peachy · 07/04/2012 16:41

Well done nTheNightIsDark.

It is also worth njoting here that autism does not just refer to withdrawn, 'cold' children and adults anyway- ds3 is very chatty, friendly, happy.... and meets the autism criteria becuase he is TOO in your face,a different form of socially unaware but just as problematic (I also have a stereotypical ASD child who is withdrawn and severe so have experience of both)

DS3 is anything but cold. It would be a joke to argue he was aprented in a cold way, he just has no boundaries as a result of ASD.

Kladdkaka · 07/04/2012 16:47

That's like my daughter. She's so friendly and loving and devoted to everyone that she's extremely vulnerable to being taken advantage of and getting into situations she isn't able to cope with. Her problem is that she cannot conceive that other people aren't as honest and caring as her.

Peachy · 09/04/2012 18:44

That's my ds3 exactly Kladd. A delight, a joy, but still ASD

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