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women who 'get on better with men'

287 replies

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:04

I would have said this about myself into my 20's. I have 2 acquaintances who are women who 'get on better with men' 'have more male friends than female'

Neither of this women IMO have what it takes to be a good friend. They are both quite fickle and seem to lack empathy,I wouldnt trust them or rely on them. I can't really put my finger on what it is about them; they seem a bit fair-weather

On reflection, when I was younger I was less open and was probably emotionally immature (compared with peers) and didnt really have any great girl-friends when growing (not that I recognised). Since having made good female friends,that i do appreciate- there is nothing like it. I think girl-friend relationships are much deeper and enduring and there is nothing like it

Whats your experience of women who 'get on better with men'?
AIBU if I think they are a bit rubbish?

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bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:05

or AIBU to say that friendships between 2 females run deeper than with a male?

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limitedperiodonly · 10/01/2012 16:07

Whenever women say this about themselves I consider I've had a lucky escape.

squeakytoy · 10/01/2012 16:07

I generally get on better with my male friends than female, as I find the conversation is generally less bitchy and gossipy, and more interesting.

OTheHugeManatee · 10/01/2012 16:08

They're just different. Otherwise you'd be implying that men somehow aren't as capable of deep friendships as women, which is bollocks.

lesley33 · 10/01/2012 16:08

Don't know as a generalisation. But as a teenage girl my friends were largely boys. And looking back I had pretty poor social skills.

SquidgyBiscuits · 10/01/2012 16:09

YABU.

I have more male than female friends. My closest friends are all men, with the exception of 1 woman. Not for any particular reason, just that we have more in common, same type of morals, viewpoints etc.

I find it less hard work being around them than my female friends, who I find to be a little judgey.

yellowraincoat · 10/01/2012 16:10

I get on better with men. Have some lovely female friends as well, but I tend to find women get a bit cliquey which I can't stand.

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:11

my girl-friends arent bitchy and gossipy though. Why would you have bitchy friends?

what do the men talk about which is more interesting?

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DoesNotGiveAFig · 10/01/2012 16:11

I have a friend like you describe, "gets on better with men". She's lovely, but flaky, unreliable and doesn't seem to realise when she tramples all over other people's feelings/plans etc.

She also tends to get in lots of "sticky" situations with men, ahem. THat could just be her though, it doesn't mean ALL women who prefer male company are odd.

NinkyNonker · 10/01/2012 16:11

I always spent more time around boys than girls growing up because the sport I played out of school (all my spare time) was male dominated. I then went on to work in this sport, and women were suspicious of me, or just disliked me because all my friends/colleagues were male. However now, at 30, I have more female friends I would call than male.

SquidgyBiscuits · 10/01/2012 16:11

Also, with my interests, I tend to socialise more with men than women. There are more men than women in my line of work too.

My social skills are just fine, thanks!

SquidgyBiscuits · 10/01/2012 16:13

Another thing is that I'm shit at keeping in touch. I hate texting, emailing, facebooking etc. My female friends are very needy in that respect, and my male friends aren't.

I don't get into sticky situations with men, friends or not. I've been with DH for 10 years, very happily!

Kayzr · 10/01/2012 16:14

YABU. I get on with men much better than women and I always have done. From primary school I've had more male friends. I have about 3 really close female friends.

When I do go on girls nights out I get fed up of the bitching and moaning. When I go out with the lads I have a right laugh. There is no moaning, bitching about what other people are wearing. Grin

Kayano · 10/01/2012 16:15

I think that it is an awful assumption to make about any woman that she wouldn't be a good friend.
Angry

I tend to get on better with men than woman (except online) but would hope no one was thinking I wouldn't be a good friend to a woman too. I would love to have more good friends who are women but it's not always easy.

I work in a male dominated environment and I find women I do meet already have their good friends and strong friendship groups and I find it hard to 'get in there' and make friends Sad

I am shy in real life and v quiet and awkward at first but once I get going I am fine. I get down about not having more girlfriends in my real life.

I also play a lot of games which is generally more dominated by males (not all I grant you) but I find it easier to talk about world of Warcraft than many other subjects etc.

I am hoping to make more friends when I have this baby and go to classes and playgroups etc but will not be sure to not mention most of my friends being male Sad

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:16

but,isnt it only teenage girls who bitch and moan and even notice what anyone else is wearing????

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Kayano · 10/01/2012 16:17

I have also made a lot of new friends in the anti-natal group section of mums net and actually cherish my baby bus Wink

noexcuses · 10/01/2012 16:17

I swopped at 16 to a private 6th form where they didn't take girls lower down the school. I made one close girl friend there but the reality was I spent 2/3rds of lessons as the only girl in the class. This resulted in an ease in the company of men. I later went on to work in a male dominated career which gave me no problems. I have close female friends of 15yrs plus now who I value highly and I'll make conversation with anyone though not about football Grin.

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:18

its not an assumption I have made Kayano Ive known 1 for over 10 years and the other for 5 years. They have both been 'bad friends' a number of times over the years

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LeBOF · 10/01/2012 16:18

If you think men are more interesting conversationalists, Squeaky, what is the appeal of mumsnet for you? I would have thought that one thing mumsnet has done very well is to create a space where women aren't constantly talked over, and their humour and intelligence shines through. Not all of this is evidenced in AIBU, right enough Wink, but equivalent ranty male-dominated spaces show quite a shocking level of idiocy.

Doomfinger · 10/01/2012 16:20

Kayano - are you me?

Naoko · 10/01/2012 16:21

I've always gotten on better with men than women, as a general rule, and the vast majority of my close friends are male. My mother tells me she was the same for most of her life. My father generally prefers the company of women. My parents are happily married, I'm happy with my DP and have been for years. There are no 'sticky situations' anywhere.

I don't know why I have more male than female friends. I make friends with a person, not with their gender. It just so happens that most of the people I make friends with are male. They share my interests, they make me laugh, and they are there when I need them - and I do the same for them. That is what makes a friend. Does it matter what gender they are?

Kayzr · 10/01/2012 16:24

Bejeezus, I don't think so. I'm 25 and in the group of female friends I've got I'm the youngest. Our nights out are spent moaning about work, men and bitching about clothes and celebs.

It's got to the point that I hardly go out now. But being pregnant means I have a great excuse.

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:24

I work in a very male dominated industry BTW

and I do have a number of really good male friends, new and very old

Im not saying I dont like men,or I cant relate to men

Im asking why some women think other women arent as easy to get on with as men

It kind of feels like a betrayal of themselves in a way-does that make sense?

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wannaBe · 10/01/2012 16:24

"Neither of this women IMO have what it takes to be a good friend. They are both quite fickle and seem to lack empathy,I wouldnt trust them or rely on them.
I can't really put my finger on what it is about them; they seem a bit fair-weather"

"but,isnt it only teenage girls who bitch and moan and even notice what anyone else is wearing????" well, in your op you bitched about your two female friends didn't you? And you bitched about women who are friends with men in general "ibu to think they are a bit rubbish?" and you don't even seem to realize just how bitchy you are being. Hmm

oh and yabu btw.

bejeezus · 10/01/2012 16:26

Kayzr maybe I am lucky in my female friends!

i am suprised the responses are so overwhelmingly 1 sided!!

blimey-maybe i am wrong. surelynot!

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