women who 'get on better with men'

[bejeezus]

I would have said this about myself into my 20's. I have 2 acquaintances who are women who 'get on better with men' 'have more male friends than female'

Neither of this women IMO have what it takes to be a good friend. They are both quite fickle and seem to lack empathy,I wouldnt trust them or rely on them. I can't really put my finger on what it is about them; they seem a bit fair-weather

On reflection, when I was younger I was less open and was probably emotionally immature (compared with peers) and didnt really have any great girl-friends when growing (not that I recognised). Since having made good female friends,that i do appreciate- there is nothing like it. I think girl-friend relationships are much deeper and enduring and there is nothing like it

Whats your experience of women who 'get on better with men'?
AIBU if I think they are a bit rubbish?

Yes, I went to a boys' school for A levels in the first yr they accepted them, I was one of 2 in the whole school. So yes, I had many more male friends! An not flaky though, or lacking in social skills.

Exactly what wannabe said. Women have this tendency to over-analyse everything AND vocalise the results.

YABU. We're all different and some of us will happen to get on better with more men than women. So what?

"its not an assumption I have made Kayano Ive known 1 for over 10 years and the other for 5 years. They have both been 'bad friends' a number of times over
the years"

but whether they have male or female friends has no bearing on whether someone is a good or bad friend. I have known plenty of "bad" friends who surround themselves with girly cliques and spend their time bitching about whichever one isn't there on that day in the school playground - all of them women. Equally I have known some men who can be arseholes and "bad" friends. One's ability to be a good or bad friend has to do with the person you are, not what sex you are...

wannabe I didnt bitch about them. ANd they arenot my friends

they DO lack empathy and they have shown themselves to be fickle

I get on okish wiht women, but i sometimes find we don't have enough in common to make a friendship work, I am not bothered about make up, heels, fake tan etc etc.

I've never really thought about it that way. My friends are just people, all individuals.

This whole thread makes me and and doomfinger I am your sub-conscious

I've had good female and male friends, and some let downs on both sides. I think you can't differentiate friendship ability by sex.

Fwiw the most unpleasant people I have ever known are all school gate competitive mums.

I don't see a problem with a woman getting on better with men than women. I often do.

However, I once witnessed a woman who I don't like telling a man my DP that she "gets on soooooo much better with men than women. Girls just don't get me". All this while sitting on the guy's lap and looking deep into his eyes. girls do get you. Dear. They "get" you and that's why they don't like you.

"I tend to get on better with men than woman (except online)"

Weird, that, isn't it Kayano. I have got lots of thoroughly pleasant female friends, but IRL I don't tend to come across such likeminded, articulate pant-wettingly funny women like I do online....

I know Vivipru I'm fucking hilarious online

YANBU in my experience. In theory, this should just be a matter of interests but in practice I've also found that for WWGOBWM read 'women who other women can't rely on as much'.

May just be my experience of course.

DesperatelySS - the WWGOBWM type you describe is exactly my experience...

I wonder if some women just don't like women who don't want to be in a clique with them, for whatever reason. I've never been in a group, can't stand big group nights out, going on group holidays, all that. Maybe some women take that as being stand-offish.

I do think that some women actively look for reasons to dislike other women stirs the shit

yellowraincoat That isnot the case for me-i dont have a big group of friends. I have quite a number of friends, but they dont all know each other. Some of them have met each other through me,but generally I spend time with them individually

My closest friends are gay men. How would I get categorised?

I know 2 women like this.
they are both quite annoying imo , and also quite controlling and lack empathy.

I think other women read this better than men.

I wonder if some women just don't like women who don't want to be in a clique with them, for whatever reason.

WWGOBWM read 'women who other women can't rely on as much'.

I think both these types exist, along with the following who I run a mile from:

"Women who Lunch Whinge"

"Women who have absolutely nothing to talk about except their bluddy children's poo" (the equivalent of Blokes Who Talk About Footy All The Time).

I hate to admit this, but I do find more men are rational in general, and often able to converse on a wider range of things than many of the women I know - I think having kids does things to some women's brains.

I do think that some women actively look for reasons to dislike other women

I think some women are jealous of other women, and bitch, and men are generally not bothered enough to get jealous and bitchy.

Depends on their reasoning.

Men and women will always have more in common with each other if they share similar values/interests than they will with someone of the opposite sex who is poles apart.

If you are a woman who loves traditionally 'male' interests, such as engineering, there is a reason for preferring male company in general because you are generally going to find more men than women who will share this interest with you. This is perfectly reasonable and shows why we should throw out gender stereotypes. There are a lot of people out there who fall into this category.

However, other women who say they prefer male company indiscriminately, because 'men are less bitchy' or 'more interesting', do so IMO because they have internalised the idea that women and traditionally female interests are somehow less worthy than men's. Subconsciously they aspire to have the status that being male affords and often revel in titles such as 'honorary man' or 'one of the lads'. This might work well on an individual level for women, but ultimately it perpetuates sexism.

Engineering and babies are different subjects but equally important.

Hmmm...Im wishing I had started a thread asking about how female/male friendships differ from female/female friendships,

rather than asking about the women who prefer female/male friendships

I thinkit would have been more insightful

is it too late to start again?

someone of the same sex

I think it depends on the person. I don't think anyone can say that because a woman gets on better with men that they must be fickle etc.

I get on better with men, probably because I was more or less brought up by my uncle and now as an adult I work in a company with only 2 other women on the premises. On the other hand my closest friend is a woman and I'd do anything for her