women who 'get on better with men'

[bejeezus]

I would have said this about myself into my 20's. I have 2 acquaintances who are women who 'get on better with men' 'have more male friends than female'

Neither of this women IMO have what it takes to be a good friend. They are both quite fickle and seem to lack empathy,I wouldnt trust them or rely on them. I can't really put my finger on what it is about them; they seem a bit fair-weather

On reflection, when I was younger I was less open and was probably emotionally immature (compared with peers) and didnt really have any great girl-friends when growing (not that I recognised). Since having made good female friends,that i do appreciate- there is nothing like it. I think girl-friend relationships are much deeper and enduring and there is nothing like it

Whats your experience of women who 'get on better with men'?
AIBU if I think they are a bit rubbish?

bejeezus I'm a feminist. I challenge misogyny in men and women. However, you are just as likely to see it in women as men.

Most women I come across have interests that are different from mine. As a general rule, these include television and magazines, and I am unable to join in conversations. And they travel in packs and drink too much. (I'm in a pub situation most of my social and work time.)

On the other hand most men I come across are after a shag, think it's OK to use sexually derogatory language, think that aftershave should be used by the bucketfull and drink far too much.

crunchy there are a lot of people who have given very reasonable explanations as to why they have mostly male friends- 'male's profession/ interests etc which I can understand

I'm questioning those that ARE saying that women are all bitchy and boring

crunchy its come as a shock to me that women can be/are misogynists

How does that sit with them? surely it equals self-hatred? low self-esteem? other ishyoos?

It's not just women who prefer men who are misogynists! The world hates women.

Society conditions females to attack one another. It supports the patriarchy - classic divide and rule.

Look at the magazines aimed at women. Goodness gosh, they are full of the worst kind of shite. Unbelievable. And yes, Nuts and Zoo are appalling misogynist idiocy, but the readership is far far below that of Take A Break or Heat.

Thank you for so perfectly illustrating why I prefer the company of men

So you base your opinion on 50% of the population, on the comments of one person. Says it all really.

In my twenties and thirties most of my male friends wanted to shag me. These days, I'm only friends with fellow musicians

(although, according to some of you we are only interested in diets, celebs and TV. Maybe you need to get out more!)

Or another example - the magical thinking regarding rape. The massive list of rules women must follow, that will keep us safe.

If you get absolutely bladdered, go to bed with a man and get raped, how many of your fellow women will say that you deserved it? Or better yet, that it wasn't rape at all, because you didn't scream/ fight?

This is something I've thought about - I'm often alone in a bar with 15-20 men. If one of them attacked me, how does that look?

I have male friends and female friends. I tend to find male conversation more interesting due to the lack of bitching.

although, according to some of you we are only interested in diets, celebs and TV. Maybe you need to get out more!)

That's what I think too. None of my female friends are particularly interested in celebrities or dieting. We talk about science and travel mostly, but other topics include our jobs, what we're reading, relationships, crafts, cookery, politics, religion etc. I haven't experienced female friends having a "bitchy" conversation in years and years.

Flouncy - apologies if earlier comments came across as attacking, wasn't meant that way but re-reading can see why it would be taken as such.

"froggy maybe its not because they suspect you of being a dirty husband stealer. Most women are much more secure and confident than to feel so threatened IME

May be its because they suspect you hold opinions of women such as you've outlined in your first paragraph"

Have to disagree with you there bejeezus. I was half joking with the "dirty husband stealer" bit, but you only have to read forums such as this one to see how many women aren't comfortable with the idea of their dp/dh having female friends (maybe with good reason in some cases). How would another female suspect I had any kind of opinion about anything just by looking at me? I dont hold an opinion that all women are bitchy and demanding, although I have been badly hurt by female friends in the past (who, needless to say are not considered friends anymore). Perhaps that's why I find my male friends easier to deal with, who knows!

In general I do get on better with men. I dunno, I have more in common with 'men' and find it easier to form proper friendships with them than women. I do have 'women' friends too - who I love, but the majority of my friends are men and it always has been that way. My men friends are just friends and I have no designs on them. It's odd now i think about it, but I have always felt more 'at ease' and like I know 'what is what' with men rather than women.

Samandi, Apologies here for being over prickly!