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AIBU about the government lying about DLA

224 replies

Notthefullshilling · 10/01/2012 15:35

First time AIBU long time (nah not really) lurker. I also posted this in other topics but thought this would also attract the numbers of viewers that it deserves.

So disabled people asked then ignored about benefit changes.

www.periscopepost.com/2012/01/spartacus-report-government-buried-opposition-to-disability-living-allowance-reform/

diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.com/

www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/16008

So the short version is that no one wants the reform of DLA, particularly not the overwhelming number who responded to the governments own consultation.
Also rejected were the proposals to change the way the benefit is assessed, as well as the length of time that people would need to wait before qualifying for the benefit, last but not least rejected was the changes to the rates and the levels of benefit payable.

No apologies for saying this is the true face of compassionate conservatism.

OP posts:
AmberLeaf · 14/01/2012 11:51

Dont know if this has been posted anywhere, prob has but I will post anyway!

Lords devision results

AmberLeaf · 14/01/2012 11:53

I know people know those results already, but its a handy tool to check all results with.

HedleyLamarr · 14/01/2012 12:19

Ooh, Twitter just unbanninated me! How nice of them! Grin

molepom · 14/01/2012 12:27

Apparently the government is asking Twitter to try to stop #spartacusreport from trending. Unconfirmed though.

KalSkirata · 14/01/2012 12:33

Dont forget the part of PIP that if you use a powered wheelchair you are suddenly not 'mobility impaired'. One, even with a wheelchair there are many places yiu cant get into that mobile people can. Two, once youmlose your DLA/PIP you cant pay for the powerchair BUT you still lose it because you are not mobility impaired if you have the potential to use a powerchair. An imaginary one.
My powerchairs cost £1000. Second hand and well worn and maybe last 18 months. Without one i cant leave the house. Without DLA I cant even afford a secondhand one. A new powerchair is about £5000.
So people like me will be trapped jn the house.

KalSkirata · 14/01/2012 12:34

I hope Twitter tell the Govt to fuck off

Sevenfold · 14/01/2012 12:39

KalSkirata I wonder what will happen with out dd's will they say thay can work as they have a powered chair and can drive it,
even though they can't go out alone or cross a road

HedleyLamarr · 14/01/2012 12:40

So do I Kal, so do I.

molepom · 14/01/2012 13:05

HedleyLamarr - I apologise and stand corrected..I'm fustrated.

KalSkirata · 14/01/2012 13:14

Or speak or move sevenfold. Dd 'luckily' is too disabled and blind to use a powerchair.

Sevenfold · 14/01/2012 13:21

oh dear, dd can drive hers with hand switches and is going to have training from whiz kids....
so will that be it, she will no longer be disabled.
even though she can't do anything for her self.....

still at least people on 4o grand might get to keep their benefit

HedleyLamarr · 14/01/2012 14:04

Molepom, there is nothing to apologise for, and you are right to be frustrated. When Boris Johnson and the Daily Mail say the ConDems are wrong you know they are finished. Apols for the links to the DM, but these are well worth reading.

Sevenfold · 14/01/2012 15:06

the DM have written some good stuff about this

molepom · 14/01/2012 15:33

The DM have been great, the guardian has done some brilliant reports too.

I hoping and praying that this the begining of the end for the government - I mean, who on earth is going to stand having them in power if and when these cuts go ahead? I feel it will only be then, that there would be proper public outcry.

molepom · 14/01/2012 15:35

Thank you Hedley. I still, now even a few days later, can not believe what the DM are saying. They were the ones who have been pushing for the benefit scrounger stigma for a number of years now.

Sevenfold · 14/01/2012 15:43

I just Wish we could get the message across on mn that disability is not a choice, it can happen to anyone at anytime, and will at one time or another affect every family in some way.
perhaps if the realised that, we would have more support.
and where is MN HQ why aren't they doing more.
they went to town on the silly let girls be girls. which was all about choice.
yet on this nada

molepom · 14/01/2012 15:57

Here you go, have a listen to this and cheer yourselves up a bit, it's funny as hell and will certainly be listening to more.

Comedy news quiz

molepom · 14/01/2012 16:46

Look at this Finally, it's in the BBC news. It's getting out there, slowly but it's getting out there!

Mandy2003 · 14/01/2012 17:00

I missed the moment on the Today programme where it was claimed that DLA is £90pw Sad

But Peter White did say that the rules are all there in the existing system, why spend all the money scrapping DLA and introducing PIP - why not just make people who receive DLA submit a doctors certificate every year to state that their condition had or had not changed.

Surely this would be the fairest thing to do?

HedleyLamarr · 14/01/2012 17:03

You're welcome Mole. There was a cracking article in the Grauniad yesterday by Polly Toynbee which made me think she could easily be one of the #frothers.

HedleyLamarr · 14/01/2012 17:19

Yes Mandy it would. This Tory led coalition isn't about fairness, they want the poorest and most vulnerable to pay for the mistakes of the bankers.

molepom · 14/01/2012 17:20

Mandy I agree with you. I've just had my mum on the phone in tears over all of this and she doesnt even know half of it. She's bi-polar and was recomended by doctors to be sanctioned she doesnt bloody need this. I'm desperatly hoping I can call her on Wensday with some good news from the House of Lords just to ease up the pressure she's feeling.

Yep, I read that one too Hedley, polly rocks! funnily enough i thought that too...hmmm...

LadySybilDeChocolate · 14/01/2012 17:28

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1383554-to-think-that-disability-affects-you-all I'm doing a little promo for this. I hope that's OK. Smile

TheHumancatapult · 14/01/2012 18:47

yep mandy only thing with continus claims is my condtion never going to change and that dam form is so stress full

yep seven fold if cna propel the manual 50 m then were not disabled any more .Im so going to rock up at all sorts of bplaces and demand access without notice since im not going eb disabled any more .

hehe we need turn up at tube stations and cause chaos as hey were same as everyone else now

TheHumancatapult · 14/01/2012 18:49

hmm that or the house of commons with no notice of us arrving becuase access is no longer going to be a problem