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AIBU about the government lying about DLA

224 replies

Notthefullshilling · 10/01/2012 15:35

First time AIBU long time (nah not really) lurker. I also posted this in other topics but thought this would also attract the numbers of viewers that it deserves.

So disabled people asked then ignored about benefit changes.

www.periscopepost.com/2012/01/spartacus-report-government-buried-opposition-to-disability-living-allowance-reform/

diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.com/

www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/16008

So the short version is that no one wants the reform of DLA, particularly not the overwhelming number who responded to the governments own consultation.
Also rejected were the proposals to change the way the benefit is assessed, as well as the length of time that people would need to wait before qualifying for the benefit, last but not least rejected was the changes to the rates and the levels of benefit payable.

No apologies for saying this is the true face of compassionate conservatism.

OP posts:
molepom · 13/01/2012 17:12

Who's heads do we have to bash around here? Bump.

Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 17:13

perhaps if we pretended it was a petition about CB it would get more

Glitterknickaz · 13/01/2012 17:17

Polly Toynbee rocks

molepom · 13/01/2012 17:18

Grin That thought and others similar did cross my mind.

Start a thread saying "should I leave the bastard ? He's eaten all the pringles." then post the link. Great idea in theory, not so good in practice though Sad

molepom · 13/01/2012 17:20

I've read it Glitter, bloody great report, really well written. Have you seen the links for the Daily Mail? The support from them is amazing, and the report about the councillor being suspended for calling protesters Retards.

Glitterknickaz · 13/01/2012 17:28

molepom have pm'd you

molepom · 13/01/2012 17:34
Grin
Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 18:38

oh private pm's now....I feel all left out now

molepom · 13/01/2012 18:39

lol, nothing to feel left out about my dear.

NettleTea · 13/01/2012 18:40

I cant believe what they are doing tbh.

Well I can actually, but it doesnt stop it being terrifying for anyone who is disabled or cares for someone who is disabled.

My 11 year old DD has cystic fibrosis. Its a progressive disease, how she is now is the best she will be (and long may we keep her this way) but its a constant battle with many hospital visits, 11 different types of medication regularly throughout the day, plus extras for specific infections, inhalers, nebulisers and physiotherapy. Some nights she gets night sweats and nightmares because of infection or some medications, and wakes up screaming and unable to breathe.

At the moment she is quite well. She can run about with her friends and its important for her to do extra sporting activities while she is able to, so as to keep her as fit as possible, because physical fitness is a better indicator of prognosis than something like lung function. This costs money of course. Its important that she eats well. She takes so much medication which affects her digestion and appetite, and she requires high calories and high fat and protein, but its got to be 'good' fats and calories to avoid issues relating to bad diet, as her liver and kidneys are under alot of strain from processing all the drugs. So again that doesnt come cheap. And she's fussy, but you cant risk letting her go without, so you buy what you know she will eat, whatever that costs. Soon she will get diabetes, and her diet will become even more difficult to manage and she will need more medication and intervention. These are the kinds of things that her DLA pays for, things which dont necessarily fall into the normal categories of care, but which have a profound effect on her health and keep her out of hospital inpatient care.

We are very lucky, in that we recieved good advice in filling out the forms and she gets the highest rate of DLA for care, which obviously has the knock on effect of other benefits, as I work from home. Her head has ducked as the axe swings this time, her DLA assessment goes through until she is 16, but whether that will still apply in a year or so I dont know, and what will happen to her when she hits 16 and needs to apply under new rules I cant say.

It does seem to be luck of the draw alot of times. Many people with the same condition who seem to me to be worse that DD are on lower rates. Some people who seem to be better are on the higher rate and get the mobility (we havent applied as we dont have that issue yet) yet they all have the same condition. The problem with a condition like this is like the poster above, who's brother had the kidney problems, is that it can change from day to day, from week to week, and a short assesment on the wrong day would have serious implicatons on their lives. The old form may be long and cumbersome, and in many ways not easy to apply to many specific illnesses, but it did need alot of medical proof with it, and did seem to do the job although maybe not as well as it should. Its a waste of time and money to reassess alot of conditions, for which there is no cure, and which will only get worse - they could save some money that way for a start - a list of 'one off' applications for a list of progressive disease.

The more I hear about this, the more I think its another one of these crony-benefitting situations. I cant even say any more its just sickening me so much....

molepom · 13/01/2012 18:48

Nettle, did you realise they are stopping the disability element to Tax Credits? That's £80 a week I'm loosing on that alone! Money which is spent on clothes for him as he chews through them, paint for his room and plaster as he destroys the walls and doors in meltdowns, replacing favorite toys and learning toys because of the meltdowns, new light bulbs and fixing bathroom standard spotlights because of his fixation on taking/breaking bulbs and playing with the wireing, activites which help to control his temper and social activites to help him learn social skills, not to mention the bus and trams fares to and from these places...without that extra money I'm not sure what to do as I wont be able to afford it. and that's just without the propsed cuts to DLA.

bananaistheanswer · 13/01/2012 18:49

Just signed the petition. Watched This Week last night after question time and one of the guests mentioned the vote, and then the underhand way the vote was then overturned. I don't actually have the words to express just how angry this makes me. I don't have anyone on my family who receives DLA although my ex does (he has epilepsy). I just cannot fathom any decent-minded individual who can stand back and allow this to happen.

Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 18:50

is that for everyone on DLA? Even on HR?

Glitterknickaz · 13/01/2012 18:51

Sevenfold it's that thing I put in the other place Wink

NettleTea · 13/01/2012 18:53

i read that it was middle rate and below. Though am not believing all I have read......
I dont know how it affects things like HB either, as we get an enhanced rate due to higher rate DLA.....

NettleTea · 13/01/2012 18:56

what other place??

molepom · 13/01/2012 19:05

"I dont know how it affects things like HB either, as we get an enhanced rate due to higher rate DLA....."

Not any more, that's being voted on on the 17th as well.

NettleTea · 13/01/2012 19:30

oh balls.....

Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 22:33

look at ths CB thread,
heaps of people posting about CB yet fuck all about this.
why don't people care.
I didn't plan ot have a severely disabled child.
no one does.
this government that should care about people like me, ffs Dscam lived it.
yet they are cutting a life line.
and mn
oh lets bleat about people on over 40 grand being poor.
ffs.
mn at its worst

molepom · 13/01/2012 22:45

Agreed Sad. May have to re think my account after this.

molepom · 13/01/2012 22:46

I'm not sure I want to part of a forum where they are more concerned about £40,000+ earners than they are about the most vunerable.

Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 23:06

you are not alone.
what with the anti sn post and threads being allowed. then the fact that this "campaign" although started by mn hq has been left to sink.
I am fed up and want to start a really shouty thread

molepom · 13/01/2012 23:18

You did quote that I was responsible for that thread being kept. I agreed with what you were saying but thought it was best it stayed - something I almost regret now as it hasn't taught anyone anything. A waste of time and effort trying to get anyone to think clearly.

It's a lesson learnt believe me.

Sevenfold · 13/01/2012 23:23

that was so last week:o
I love you this week

LadySybilDeChocolate · 13/01/2012 23:28

I can't find anything to say that they are reducing the disability element of the tax credits. Is there a link?