to want to know if DogsBestFriend has been banned from mumsnet?

[GetOrf]

Because if she has been I would like to know why.

"Someone else posted 'It's MN's loss' - no actually, it will be the loss of life for many dogs. That's the reality."

I sincerely hope that's not the case, and I know she does good work with dogs, and I admore her for it.
However, because of the doghouse, and posters like her, I have gone from thinking that I'd be an ideal candidate to give a dog a good home to a feeling that I wouldn't be good enough. I think the tone is so aggresive on there that one feels that you need to be a perfect saint to be able to do it properly, and that is a shame, because I think I'd make a good dog owner.

I guess what I'm saying is that it's a shame if the doghouse results in putting people off having dogs, if those people would actually make responsible and loving pet owners.

I agree MmeLindor. If anything were to go wrong/ she was unsure about anything at the whelping, I bet she wouldn't go back to the Doghouse, which could actually be the place with the most helpful people!

I think DBF has done some fantastic things here and off board too, but that reply was just shooting herself in the foot imho.

And unfortunately, that is the type of post MNHQ will have seen. (Btw, MNHQ I feel a bit sorry for you, having to sit up to watch this going on for you)

I think that maybe your opinion of what constitutes a 'personal attack' differs from mine Justine. Your last post is a good example of that. Clarification would help.

Justine- I made a suggestion further down the board about perhaps changig the name to something with fewer negative connotations?

i have never, ever seen Xenia take a tone with anyone, even under the worst provocation. she is absolutely remarkable in that regard, actually.

bloody hell

Poor Tiktok why is she being dragged into this? I've never seen her be anything other than utterly polite, calm & reasonable - about as far from DBF'S slightly deranged hysteria passion as it is possible to be.

Catinthehat, I'm not being paid by MNHQ and never have. Not sure why it is relevant that Aitch is/was. Care to explain?

It's about time IMO. She may well be knowledgable and passionate but she's also aggressive and rude. The way she speaks to people is just unbelievable sometimes and is seemingly unable to tone it down even a notch for longer than 5 minutes.

Yes I agree mmelindor

There was no need for the militant, sneery, superior ramming down the throat DBF gave her. She could have voiced the same opinion, in a far less arrogant and aggressive manner than that.
That poster posted pleasantly in innocence, and the rudeness was inexcusable....and tbh, shows a lack of maturity and control.

If that thread is a week old then she has not heeded any warnings thus far at all. perhaps she believes she is above the warnings? Who knows?

The ban should stick.

I just lost a long, insightful, well thought out post with perfect spelling and grammar...

In a nutshell it said I like DBF, have never visited the dog house topic so don't know anything about that but I trust Justine to do the right thing.

Crazybit:

I have also sent a pm to MNHQ and nothing came of it that I know.

Hi there - when was this and to whom? thanks

I'm not sure who it was to-the 'contact us' button probably and it was most likely a couple of years ago. I am able to search anything to find it??

this may go a little way at showing why DBF got so irate..

You can be paid by MNHQ??? Where do I apply

But yes,if anyone has been its irrelevant.

has anyone actually said YANBU or YABU?

@chickchickchicken

justine - your post a few pages back has left a bad taste in my mouth

this is why. at best you were misleading, at worst you were factually incorrect when you stated that there was a 'poor woman a while back who got into trouble for not being able to cope with her dog after her dh died'

i was on that thread and your statement does not reflect what actually happened. no-one knew that poster had lost her dh as she didnt say in her OP. yet you make it sound as if people knew but still had a go. your statement also implies that she was attacked for not coping with the dog. that is not true. people disagreed with her method of selling the dog to someone she didnt know and NOT about not being able to cope with dog

really, i cannot have respect for you quoting from a thread in such an inaccurate way. its not just a difference of opinion - mine and yours - but your statement is not factually correct

it does leave a bad taste in my mouth as it seems you have a personal dislike of dbf. there were lots of posters with strong opinions on that thread.

i am not sure i even want to stay on this site and i never thought i would say that. the inconsistencies are becoming unpalatable. it is sickening to see posts about rape and derogatory language about special needs stand and then you get all high and mighty about the doghouse

But that's the point, you don't know ever what someone's circumstances are, so what's the harm in being gentle and kind or at least in being neutral? That thread imho was a very salient example of what happens if the prevailing mood is one of judgement and self-righteousness. We never, any of us, know the circumstances of who we are talking to. It's absolutely fine to give forthright, straight advice but any poster could have a whole host of vulnerabilities so why not assume the best of them, and not the worst? Why not tell it straight, but not unkindly?

Since when have you needed maturity and control to post on Mumsnet?

there's no comparison with tiktok imo, and I speak as someone who has had heated disagreements with tiktok in the past. (and I made this point on my previous thread).

It is possible to be forceful and passionate about a subject without resorting to name-calling and personal insults. Once you start resorting to that you lose the highground IMO.

"One person should not be able to rule a topic"

EXACTLY the problem.

rings no bells whatsoever, beery, where's that from?

2 simultaneous nerves hit.

Aitch, was a yes/no question. Did you not spot that before you started all the rolly eyed denial stuff?

Justine. So " classy" is a personal attack then. Must be the way I tell 'em.

Oh dear, not doing well tonight ladies.

I'm an old MNetter and have recently popped my head round the door again (probably shouldn't it's too addictive), anyway I thought the Doghouse might be the place for me these days but have to admit I'd be terrified to post in the Dog House and feel DBF's style could be softened slightly. TLES on the other hand is IMO nuts.

Justine -"But that's the point, you don't know ever what someone's circumstances are, so what's the harm in being gentle and kind or at least in being neutral"-well said