to want to know if DogsBestFriend has been banned from mumsnet?

[GetOrf]

Because if she has been I would like to know why.

@StrandedBear

Well Justine, I bet your Monday evening didn't pan out like this in your head did it? [:p]

While we are here can we have a sticky out tongue smiley?

This is why I rarely venture out these days - always another smiley request .

Again catinthehat 2/3, did you not spot the posters asking you why you needed to know Aitch's financial details and why you consider it any of your business?

here,here JustineMumsnet

It is about time that some of the agressive bullies on here got banned

'This was not a cruel puppy farmer, it was a normal mum whose dog was having puppies.'

--Those are exactly the type of people who need to be told what they are doing contributes to animal cruelty and abandonment. Yes, the dog was already pregnant, so DBF was heavy-handed in that respect. I hope it serves as a warning to others though. DBF sees abandoned dogs all the time, many as a result of people EXACTLY like this 'normal mum' who thought she'd try dog breeding for lark.

not a nerve hit, cat, what are you on about? of course i get paid to work for MN, should i do the roundup for the honour of it? anyway, i bump up against HQ all the time, your insinuation is unfounded and a bit crackers.

have run that line through the search facility, beertricks, it's not coming up with anything other than this thread. am curious to know if i wrote it. arses is very me, cream cakes possibly, sahms less so.

@ItsonlymeMrsDB

I get that, Justine

But I have seen worse in some AIBU threads, you can't ask people to have an opinion and offer help and advice then say "oh but only in the way we want you to". For fear of upsetting people who intentionally set out to cause upset.

You can if they've been repeatedly banned/warned for aggressive posting though, no?

I'll tell you what...in all honestly, this thread has certainly made me think about my own posting style. I can be bolshy and abrasive and certainly take the piss at times. i am also at times, rather scathing.
This has reminded me to tone it down and be more considerate. I have never been warned about my posting style like DBF was, but given things I have posted on here before, I could well be - and I would deserve it.

I think DBF's ban is fair.

"This is why I rarely venture out these days - always another smiley request ."

How about a dog emoticon? Ethically bred rescued, naturally.

-"But that's the point, you don't know ever what someone's circumstances are, so what's the harm in being gentle and kind or at least in being neutral"

At long bloody last

If I wanted "gentle and kind", Justine, I'd fuck off to Nethuns. {{{hugs}}}

Oh come on now. "That thread imho was a very salient example of what happens if the prevailing mood is one of judgement and self-righteousness."

MN wouldn't exist if judgment and self-righteousness weren't allowed. Do you even read your website Justine?

Look is it to soon for me to sell hot puppies on the thread? Paahhhnd a pound...

Please reinsate DBF/Val. She has helped alot of posters, myself incuded.

Just remembered the name of the so-called relationships expert - WhenWillIFeelNormal - been bugging me, that has.

will no one think of the puppies?!?

I'm going to bed after this.

of course its better to post kindly, unjudgementally, and definitely in a non-abusive fashion. of course

I normally avoid AIBU because I think exactly that, tbh.

But banning people is not the solution. Condoning rudeness isn't either.

Why on earth aren't we considering the other suggestions here? Posting a warning on a thread? Clarifying (on thread/site) what constitutes a personal attack?

There are some cold, superior, horribly 'polite' posts I have seen over the years that are far too careful to get banned - but just as hurtful and terrifying as anything DBF or others on the DogHouse have posted. And plenty of dominant characters that others are afraid to contradict! DBF is just a bit more noisy than some of those - and far more likely, as a result, to draw attention to herself.

Its not ok to shout at someone who knew no better. Its not ok to scapegoat someone who doesn't know how to not shout, either.

oh lol i seeeeee... did she REALLY say arses? well i never. was thinking it didn't sound like me.

catinthehat - I do remember you, had no idea you were banned but had noticed your disappearance. I liked you - you had a right (funny) go at me once about something. But what the fuck is your agenda tonight? What's your point? MN banned you for whatever reason, so you hate MNHQ - so why bother? Really - what's the point of being this offensive?

Yankncock - uh huh...BUT there were better ways to convey that, than through rudeness and a superiority complex.

Btw - I did Animal Husbandry in college for two years and then worked in an animal shelter.

DBF is not the person to educate the ignorant, believe me! She may be knowledgable, but her attitude makes her entirely unsuitable for passing on that knowledge effectively.

The number of times I have participated on threads about internet bullying on here - and been told to 'run along' and stop 'being so sensitive'.

I am delighted to see that agressive posters can be monitored and banned if need be.

But Yankncock, she didn't try breeding for a lark. She had more prospective puppy owners than she thought she'd have puppies.

If you think no-one should allow their dogs to whelp because of the number of rescue dogs that need rehoming, that's quite a different point - but that poster wasn't being irresponsible.

elibean, do you really see Val as someone who 'doesn't know how not to shout'? that has never occurred to me. she seemed to be able to rein it in when she wanted to.

Justine

OK, I'll concede that.

But rarely do I see that people take account of what may be people's personal circumstances on here, unless people 'know' one another.

You are asking people to be sensitive and aware that there may be issues that are not known about, but people aren't like that.

I didn't come on here and bleat about my life and explain all the reasons why it's good or crap, I take time and assess threads and other posters before I tell them a little bit about my life, and why I might react one way or another to a particular topic.

Others are not so thoughtful, in my experience.