...to be utterly disgusted that people - especially women - use the word 'frape'. It's not big or clever, is DISGUSTING

[hairfullofsnakes]

...a stupid, awful word that should be banned. How can people use this word and not feel ashamed of doing so?

nope. they're not that different. anyway, it should really be fbraped, the fact that it isn't is interesting, i think.more like a straightforward f-ed without the b.

But Aitch that is only if you assume frape means what peanut says it does.

People actually use a combination of 'fraped' and 'facebook raped'. The reason 'fraped' is more common is because aurally it is an easier sound to enunciate and it is a satisfying portmanteau.

Reading something psychologically into that is ridiculous, it just comes down to basic language sounds and our linguistic structures.

FWIW, I think calling for any word to be banned is ridiculous. Does that make an issue go away?

The alternative meanings are still in usuage. Do you really think it's more likely that people mean that they have been sexually assaulted via facebook?

rape can mean many things not just in a sexual context, it can also mean

an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.

In other words if someone has taken over your account on face book is it referred to as frape IE violated it abused it or plundered it. I'm sure the people who say this do not mean to intentionally belittle rape of a women or man for that matter in any way.

Tbh, it means the control has been taken away from you and something done against your consent. Exactly the same as when you are raped. I'm not saying that the effect is the same mentally, but it is actually the correct term, really.

Of course I don't mean they're saying that's what happened. But they are lobbying around a word which has the same connotations for a lesser cause.

no one has called for the word to be banned, i don't think?

you didn't answer my question about the language of rape and what those studies actually involved, bahum. would be interested to know what language, where from etc?

and i am astonished that you wouldn't think it relevant that the b was dropped. of course fraped is easier to say than fb-raped, but so is face-jacked, and not for a minute do i think it's just a coincidence that fraped is catching on with that f at the front. it's part of a trend to collapse words inwards, see fucktard for fucking retard etc.

It sounds a bit like everyone's coming to some sort of agreement...?

the alternative meanings are not still in usage by the age group most using and promulgating fraped, btw.

anyway, hey ho, this is just one more depressing thread on MN. must sleep.

or not maybe...just saw aitch's post. Presumably fraped is a one syllable word and face-jacked is not so, fraped is easier to say? I obviously have no professional experience in this

Why is Face-book so important that it's akin to being assaulted...

Aitch, the OP called for the word to be banned.

i hardly think the fact that one is two syllables is insurmountable,even for the e-generation. just saw rest of MQ's post re people posting that they've been sexually assaulted on fb...? crass beyond belief and a wilful misinterpretation ofwhat people havebeen trying tosayhere. definitely time for bed, no agreement reached whatsoever.

Like how my view was completely ignored..

I don't think the word fraped trivialises the word rape as I don't think anyone with an ounce of commen sense believes fraped and raped refer to the same thing,

Sorry, missed your post asking me questions, aitch.

I don't want to out myself, but I studied the language of rape victims, of both defence and prosecuting lawyers, of MPs regarding rape (ie Ken Clarke, Roger Helm) and rape victims outside of the courtroom. It was grim, but also extremely revealing as to people's views of rape. It mainly pertained to the language of blame. None of it provided any evidence that the word used in other contexts had disarmed the actual effect of rape itself. Obviously this is just my experience.

"of course fraped is easier to say than fb-raped, but so is face-jacked" - I was just agreeing that "fraped" is easier to say (due to it being one syllable) than fb-raped, as you said. But that fb-raped and face-jacked would be the same to say in those terms. As far as I can see I don't think MQ said that at all ("The alternative meanings are still in usuage. Do you really think it's more likely that people mean that they have been sexually assaulted via facebook?")

I think it is you who is, again, wilfully misinterpreting Aitch. I have posted nothing about people posting about sexual assaults. I was replying to peanut who said the term frape referred to being raped via facebook saying that it is unlikely in that context that the rape part would refer to the sexual assault.
But feel free to keep replying to imaginary posts if you find it easier.

Thankyou Twoequalstired I'm glad it's not me hallucinating!

Jareth - Sorry that your post wasn't responded to. You quoted a similar description of "frape" to Lockets that I hadn't heard before and that I am shocked by

fascinating...you should maybeget that deleted though if you don't want to reveal self, can't be many people doing that lineof work. i doin't think that anyone is making a case that frape 'disarms the effect of rape', though, more that the effect of rape as a crime is so nothingy (other than on the victim, to be sure) that let's not unthinkingly let everyone chip away at it until that conviction rate goes from 6% to nearer 80%.
once someone reporting a crime of rape has a half-decent chance of social justiceand is treated respectfully throughout the process etc, then let's use the word in other, cuter, more trivial contexts. but it's not the time yet. (except of course it's exactly the time, precisely imo because of those conviction rates and the seriousness with which the crime is treated).

Well, I've learnt something new! I thought fucktard was the conjoining of fucking/fuckwit and bastard. Why would you assume the second word was retard?

Oh and I think that the word 'fraped' being more comfortable to say that 'facebook raped' is of course the reason it is used more. That's the nature of developing language - people take the easiest and quickest way and most aurally / orally satisfying way of explaining what they mean.