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...to be utterly disgusted that people - especially women - use the word 'frape'. It's not big or clever, is DISGUSTING

218 replies

hairfullofsnakes · 05/08/2011 23:17

...a stupid, awful word that should be banned. How can people use this word and not feel ashamed of doing so?

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catinboots · 05/08/2011 23:28

Horrid. Truly vile. DS1 got a serious bollocking for using the term this week. Makes my skin crawl.

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:29

meh re the women thing, tbh i think that it's like calling a slight fb problem fsexual fabuse or something equally moronic. i would never respect someone who used it, especially if they were doing so without having paused to think what the word means.

rushofbloodtothefeet · 05/08/2011 23:29

Rape is also an agricultural crop (think all those golden yellow fields), but I struggle to think that ANYONE would believe that is the source of the term.

squeakytoy · 05/08/2011 23:29

there are various meaning to the word "rape".

In song lyrics that I was listening to earlier, for example "rich men came and raped the land".. is about stealing the land.. not any sexual term.

Frape simply means your facebook has been left logged in and someone has taken the piss out of you by making it look like you have written or done something out of character or what they assume to be funny...

It is modern language which evolves all the time, and anyone with common sense who knows the meaning of it, knows that it is not belittling the rape of a human being.. some people just like to be all "offended" though.

DontCallMePeanut · 05/08/2011 23:30

There is only one other use of the word rape which I deem unchallengeable, and thats for the name of a plant.

We live in a society where the media will not report rape as rape. Yet it's acceptable to refer to something that isn't rape as such? Is it just me that sees that as completely unacceptable?

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:32

what a very superficial analysis that was, squeakytoy...

JanMorrow · 05/08/2011 23:34

Whether you like the term or not (and I don't) I think it's a bit unnecessary to make a thread about it, the point was made on the original thread, several times..

MightyQuim · 05/08/2011 23:35

The original meaning of rape was actually 'to abduct'. Rape can also mean to seize and harm which is where I think frape comes from. I've seen a lot of people getting uptight on here saying the use of the word frape trivialises the sexual assault but not one person who could say why it is acceptable to use words like hijack, murder or kill in trivial situations but not rape.

beachyhead · 05/08/2011 23:36

I agree with squeakytoy. Facebook users understand the difference between 'frape' and 'rape'. It's not a good word but it is a modern adopted word.

Fiendishlie · 05/08/2011 23:36

Spot on, squeakytoy, some people just love being 'offended'; gives them something to moan about

bubblesincoffee · 05/08/2011 23:38

Yes, I do think you are being rude. Because you didn't post this randomly, you posted it in response to someone else using it. That someone has already taken a pasting for it on her own thread, she has apologised. It appeard to be a genuine mistake. She really didn't realise that her use of the word would offend people, and when it did she probably felt bad enough without you starting a whole new thread. She said sorry ffs!

I think the word is quite vile as well and it has made me uncomfortable whenever I have seen it used, but I think the point has been made and you are just making someone feel worse by doing this.

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:38

this is very depressing...

Twoequalstired · 05/08/2011 23:39

I think the "especially women" part of the OP is a bit irrelevant. I actually do think Squeaky has a very valid point. Language does evolve all the time and I'm sure that some words we use in general conversation now came from a very different meaning many years ago. I don't genuinely believe that anybody who uses the term means any disrespect to victims of rape or connect it to that hideous crime in any form at all.

Twoequalstired · 05/08/2011 23:40

As an aside I haven't ever used the term but equally have not been offended when others have

DontCallMePeanut · 05/08/2011 23:41

H2O, I agree. Very much so :(

emmanumber3 · 05/08/2011 23:41

I hate it - the term makes me cringe & feel very uncomfortable. Whoever invented it, it was a bad choice of expression Hmm.

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:42

what about the victims of rape? would be interested to know if there are any rape victims who think that this is a triviality...

blueshoes · 05/08/2011 23:43

It is not a nice sounding word. I have only just found out the meaning on this thread. I don't feel that strongly about it though.

DontCallMePeanut · 05/08/2011 23:44

But Twoequalstired, have you considered the effect it may have on a victim of rape to see the term bandied about?

So many victims struggle to use the word "rape" for a while after their attacks. Yet to see it lobbied in such an uncaring manner can have negative effects on the victim.

BlueBox · 05/08/2011 23:45

Oh, I've been fraped!!!

Hmm

Yes, you've had you dignity, your soul, your decency, your privacy and your body forcibly invaded...?

Oh. No. Someone has facejacked you. NOT facebook raped you

FFS

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:46

if btw you mean the eagles song, whoever was talking about lyrics,i think it's pretty clear that 'some men came along and fucked the land' is quite synonymous in that song, given that the whole thing is about how man has fucked the planet.

MightyQuim · 05/08/2011 23:46

I would be interested to hear HOW people think using the word trivialises rape. I used an example on the other thread although we seem to need two for some reason that I have read on here a number of times people write 'sorry for hijacking the thread' - I've not once seen anyone leap forth and say that such a phrase is trivialising aircraft hijack.

VivaLeBeaver · 05/08/2011 23:47

Maybe we should have fyjack as an alternative.

VivaLeBeaver · 05/08/2011 23:47

Fijack even

AitchTwoOh · 05/08/2011 23:48

well, for starters, hijacks are largely historical, were a means to an end and would often end peacefully, so it's not quite the same as someone violently forcing their penis up some struggling woman's vagina.