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To expect this doctor to be in some trouble!!

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stoppinchingthedummy · 24/02/2011 19:44

Evening ...I wont make this too long!

I went to the doctors earlier today with my DS. He has never slept a night through since he was born. He is now almost 5 and its come to breaking point. None of us are getting enough rest and it is seriously affecting his behaviour and concentration!!
Now im pretty he doesnt have ADHD as some people seem all to keen to label him with however i do need some proffesional advice on how to make him sleep.

Please dont anyone say "Just leave him scream" etc etc ..We have a 2 yr old DD who sleeps really well and if he screams he disturbs her!

Ok so long story short got to the doctors and he started with "So he has conjunctivitis,yes this is common in children blah blah" I replied "no thats not why im here im here for some proffesional advice on how to get him sleeping through the night as he has sleep problems" He then got a bit angry and said i should speak to my h/v. I told him they dont want to know now he is at school. So he then banged his hands loudly on the table,grabbed his hair and gritted his teeth!!! He was really angry!! He was shouting that he is a gp and its not his problem and why am i there!! He made me feel like a complete waste of space then said "ill refer him but now YOUR making it medical and i dont like it" so i left!!

Im so so angry but more than that im upset :( it has taken me weeks to make this appointment because im so terrified they will try to label him :( i just want him to be able to sleep so we can at least know if its the lack of sleep that makes his behaviour bad at times :(

AIBU to complain tomorrow and expect the doctor to apologise to me in person??

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supersalstrawberry · 26/02/2011 13:00

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AboardtheAxiom · 26/02/2011 13:23

I just wanted to post and let you know that you're not alone OP, my DS is 6 and his sleep is very very similar to your DS's. I also from what I have read have a smiliar parenting outlook to you.

I ask my DS to fall asleep in his own bed (he gets a magnet on his reward chart when he does) but I allow him to get into my bed - he needs me and I'm there for him. When me and his dad were together we bought a kingsize bed to fit him in with us. Grin

The other that stood out in your post was his food tastes. My DS is exactly the same plus more - he has lots of food rules. Hmm He won't eat anything that is wet. He has a lot of sensory issues. My DS is autistic.

Keep the referral, you will hopefully at the veyr least be put in touch with someone with a little more time to talk with you and your ds, and who will be reassuring and thorough - unlike your GP! I'm not saying "ooh your ds has this or that" but as I said they will hopefuly have more time to listen to your concerns, and point you in the right direction.

stoppinchingthedummy · 26/02/2011 14:11

Thanks All i have had a lot of wonderful advice from this thread overall x

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eden263 · 26/02/2011 15:40

If your son just gets into your bed, goes back to sleep and this only happens once during the night and by your own admission, you don't even hear him, then I'm not really sure how none of you "are getting enough rest" Confused

Both my DS used to get up and come into my bed during the night, sometimes one, sometimes both, right up until they were 8 or 9. Sometimes I'd wake up, but as they just got in and went straight back to sleep (as yours does) I just went back to sleep as well.

So I'm not really sure there's even a problem there.

However, YANBU to think this GP was entirely out of order as he was. Even if there was nothing he could suggest (as it doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with your son), he shouldn't have lost his rag like that, it was very unprofessional.

mrstoady · 26/02/2011 16:20

I have experienced for years a similar problem with my 8 year old son who is still terrified of being kidnapped after the Maddy Mccann situation. Prior to this he was always a good sleeper. Since then I have tried everything to get him to sleep through the night without waking us and to go to bed without us going up every 5 minutes. For many months he would not even be downstairs on his own either. The amount and length of disturbances would vary depending on the level of fear at the time.

This is what has worked for us:

Star charts did sometimes but sometimes the fear would be greater.

A bed in your or a siblings room does work but after a few months we realised this would be a long term thing and not good for him or us in the long run. To be honest he would still do this now if given the chance. I wouldn't recommend starting this up or sleeping in your bed. It is a hard habit to break.

A worry book in which he could write down his fears and then close up to take them away. He still uses this tactic but again it is not effective all the time.

We realised that the more we shouted and told him to go to sleep or showed our frustration with him in any way whatsoever, made the situation 10 times worse and was guaranteed to make it a lot harder and a longer night for us.

We always put him into bed and always refused to stay with him for any length of time. We always promised that we would go back in within 5 minutes whether this was bedtime or the middle of the night. Sometimes we would only go in a couple of times sometimes more but he had to trust us that this would happen and showing our frustration would mean it would go on far longer. Talking was kept to a minimum and fears discussed in daylight.

MOST IMPORTANTLY
We eventually discovered (and this was the secret to virtually solving everything) Why oh why did I not see the link before! It would have saved us years of sleepless nights.

A vicious circle emerges.
He is tired and therefore worries more which wakes him up several times through the night. He therefore is even more tired which exacerbates the problem and so on.

Now I have realised this, I can break the cycle immediately it starts up by sending him to bed earlier (daughter has to pretend to go to bed at same time and then come down again) and being very calm and understanding and going in every 5 minutes in the night. Within a couple of nights we are back to ok again whereas before that it would last a long time before we had a less afraid period and less disturbed nights.

Hope this helps. We tried treating it as manipulative behaviour early on in our experiences when the softly softly approach didn't work and tried to be hard with him but the fear was genuine and the only thing that minimised the fears was the above. Believe me I tried lots. I really wish you well because when you are tired yourself, it is really difficult to be so patient in the middle of the night.

P.S The doctor was out of order.

stoppinchingthedummy · 28/02/2011 19:09

UPDATE:

I would just like to update this since i had a lot of supportive and kind comments :)

I went back to the doctors today and saw a different gp :) I went because ive been having some terrible stress headaches and also back pain which i suspected could be kidneys.

Ok so i went in a wasnt going to mention anything about ds but the doctor started by asking me "so stoppinchingthedummy would you like to tell me whats going on"

Ok that was it i went into what is going on with ds and how i feel struggled into emotionally detaching myself from him at times - we talked alot about when this began and he thinks im dealing with it by knowing it probably stems from my dn being stillborn and that once i deal with that in itself i will feel stronger. He was fabulous he just listened to me and let me chat it out. He said he will contact the h/v and ask her for some support re the sleeping!!
I already felt stronger after the comments on here the other day and last night ds fell asleep alone for the first time ever!!

Im hoping we might be able to crack this now and i know it all starts with me being strong with him ...firm but fair sort of thing and not resorting locking him in rooms or any such thing as some people suggest.

I have put an official complaint in about the first doctor because i do feel he might be overly stressed and maybe it could be worse for another paitient however i spoke to the practice manager when handing it in and told her i dont wish to cause any trouble i just feel they have to know.

Thanks again :)

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 28/02/2011 19:45

Really good to hear you are feeling better about everything. Glad the GP is going to get you some support. Fingers crossed you get some rest Smile

cumfy · 01/03/2011 01:36

Great news.
I do hope the GP makes a full apology.

AboardtheAxiom · 01/03/2011 12:19

I'm glad you are feeling better about the situation and that the other doctor you saw was supportive and understanding. Smile

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