To wish people would just shut up about the amount of kids I have?

[AngelicaDemonica]

I'm pregnant with our fourth baby in four years (Been together 8) and I wonder why friends, family and aquaintences seem to think it's appropriate to constantly ask me and OH when we're going to get sterilised!

It's really beginning to grate my cheese tbh. We decided right from the start that we wanted a big family and although this baby will definarely be our last for quite a while I can't honesly say that it will be the last. Not to mention how I feel about being sterilised in the first place.

Where do people get off telling me in the middle of Iceland to get my tubes tied? Personally I find it's more of a reflection of themselvews. Like, they would never have a big family or kids so close together and can't imagine why we would so they just feel te need to spout off thoughless crap.

End rant lol

Frog has ranted on and on about the right of people to have as many children as they like. I have agreed that people are entitled to have 50 children if they are able to financially support them, love them and put them above all else.

I notice the OP has not been back to answer posters questions about whether she is able to financially support her children.

If she is financially supporting them then there's no problem. If she is not then the taxpayer surely has a right to comment on the number of children she has that the taxpayer is raising do they not?

OK 2003 government study on large families (3+ children, a fifth of the population)

Large families are different to small families according to a wide range of characteristics. Compared with small families, large families were more likely to: -
? Have older parents
? Have a younger child
? Be from Pakistani, Indian or Bangladeshi groups
? Be in hardship
? Have lower levels of employment
? Have higher levels of hardship (both in working and non workng families
. receive social security benefits

also lone parents with large families more likely to have left school without qualifications etc

No actually you don't taxpayer...unless you are impregnating her of course...

That's just a c and p from the study, by the way.

Sure we do

Frog, there's a lot of truth in larger families = benefits, have a look at the study. It was done as part of an effort to identify families in need and target help. Nobody's making it up.

nah you don't actually..unless you want to change the law or sumfin...I know you would love to have such power..but you don't...you can be told to fuck off without consequence..

I have to be totally honest.
On new years eve I asked someone when they were going to be having their tubes tied BUT in my defence she is about to have her 10th child by the 6th man and 5th nationality and the kids get a hard time locally

This has gone from a perfectly acceptable AIBU post to a rant about taxpayers v benefit claimants again so I am bowing out!

Actually, I would still like to know Fish, why you have set yourself up as morally superior by saying you dont claim benefits, when you arent actually entitled to!

Really? what if we all fucked off? who would pay the benefits then?

I don't think you really want us to fuck off. You'd like us to shut up, but hang around doling out funds.

Yikes@ TLES... nationality

It's not wrong to assume it, really, given the nature of the OP and the fact that large families are more likely to be on benefits

there's going to be quite a high possibility, for sure, plus I think we're right unless the op's disappeared for her surgery shift or something

I never said you can fuck off..just that you could be told that...and don't presume anything about me please..you are probably wrong

MCP - I have seen and stopped other kids in their neighbourhood being horrible to this womans children.
They walk down the street and get "league of nations" shouted at them - along with a few other things I would NEVER repeat as an adult so was disgusted hearing what fellow children call them.
She is not interested in them once the are born sadly - the older ones take care of them- she just enjoys the attention she gets during pregnancy.
Its very sad

Oh..so you just want to abuse us, but still have our money?

I'm assuming you're rude and badly brought up at this very moment. Do disabuse me of m misconception if you can.

Sorry to hear the TLES...

Ha! you assume much Appletrees...think what you will you seem the type who loves to judge...do what you do best my dear

Yeah I'm right. Plus you don't make sense. Never mind.. I wish you well in your life efforts

Frog No one has said there is a problem with people having large families - PROVIDED THEY CAN FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THEM.

After 23 years of caring for lots of children who have been rejected I think I know what I am talking about - thank you.

If you want to support people's right to have large families at the expense of the tax payer - bearing in mind that as a teacher you will know the taxpayers duty does not stop at financially supporting the children - then that is your right.

I am also entitled to my opinion. One that has been formed from putting back together the jagged pieces of children's physical and emotional trauma only for them to again becaome a meal ticket for their avaricious parent(s).

I am by no means labelling ALL parents of large families but I must stress to those (Not you Frog because of course you are already aware) that the majority of children who end up in care are the children from large families whose parent(s) are in receipt of benefits - by benefits I am talking about Income Support.

You know the benefits you receive when you are not working, as opposed to tax credits etc that people receive as a result of paying tax - The tax credits that once upon a time you were entitled to not as a benefit but as part of what you were entitled to earn before tax. Now known as tax credits, which are taken from the people who work for a living and distributed among the people who are working and those who are not.

Makes it look better for the Government if EVERYONE is entitled to some credits. Better than differentiating between those who put into the pot and those who merely take out eh?