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have had enough and gone back to bed

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VivaLeBeaver · 25/12/2010 10:55

They can sort fucking dinner out. Was doing the veg and dd hit the dog. Dog screamed, ran into the table and screamed again. Dd is nine and terrorises the dog for no reason. Am at my witd. End. It'll bite her one day. So i start yelling at dd and dh who saw everything yells at me for yelling at her. Merry fucking xmas.

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diddl · 28/12/2010 09:11

The dog is a retired greyhound?

Am quite disgusted that it has been rehomed to a family with a young child then.

I would have thought that they had the wrong temperament for that, and would have wanted peace & quiet.

kittywise · 28/12/2010 15:16

OP I am not a dog person, but I abhor cruelty to animals in any form.
I think you are trying your best to sort this out. I hope you do BUT you have let it go on for far too long. I don't think this dog can be happy in your family.
if you are genuinely interested in the welfare of your dog and I think you are, then you should let it be rehomed and if you get another dog, don't get a nervous one whose needs will clash with those of your daughter.
What you are insisting on doing now is neither fair on your daughter of the dog.
This is about your needs really not your dog's or your daughter's.

MsKLo · 28/12/2010 22:07

what has happened here?

VallhalaLalalalalalalalaaaaaa · 29/12/2010 12:38

"The dog is a retired greyhound?

Am quite disgusted that it has been rehomed to a family with a young child then.

I would have thought that they had the wrong temperament for that, and would have wanted peace & quiet."

Diddl, Greys are generally retired at about 4 or 5 as they are considered too old for racing by that age, they are not old per se. There is no reason why a carefully assessed, ex racing Grey should not go to an equally carefully assessed family with well behaved young children. It just seems clear here that the OP didn't tell the Retired Greyhound Trust that she would allow her child to scream at and hit the dog when she was homechecked.

VeryStressedMum · 29/12/2010 13:08

From the start this was never going to go well....

Tbh honest if any of my children beat my dog up, I don't know what I'd do to them!! Not only because they are hurting our family pet but it would worry me so much that they could hurt an animal like that.

Luckily although they beat the shite out of each other, they love the dog to death.

Not sure why the dog needs a behaviourist/training when it's your dd that's beating it up.....

PoochieLovingMum · 29/12/2010 14:31

Please get your dog re homed. If it is a particular breed e.g. greyhound, contact the relevant charity The Retired Greyhounds Trust and they will do everything they can to find a home for your pooch. They are gentle animals and don't deserve this kind of treatment. Try and put yourself in the dog's place and then see how terrifying it must be. Please do this. There is some reason why your child is behaving like this and maybe removing the dog will be the first step towards finding a better balance for you all. Don't mean to sound pompous and it's much easier to comment from outside but I do think this poor creature deserves better than this.

PoochieLovingMum · 29/12/2010 14:33

I have adopted two ex racers in my time, they are gentle, loving, trusting animals. My two children, aged 8 and 12, treat our current dog with respect and love. I would expect nothing less from them. We had a long chat about getting a dog and it's something upon which we all agreed. Your dog will end up going loopy and may well lash out if treated like this indefinitely. Please re home him/her.

Bmthbelle · 29/12/2010 15:56

As a greyhound owner I can say that this breed is amazing with children & will normally walk away from a situation rather than snap back. However given a prolonged provacation the poor dog may resort to giving a warning. It will then be unfairly labeled child aggresive.Your DD's behavoiur is totally unacceptable towards the dog. My Two & a half year old would know that this is not the way to traet any animal because she has been given guidance. That is not to say sometimes that she has'nt gone through a phase of annoying the dog or cats but she gets told off big time & made to apologise to the pet.
You need to intervene before this situation gets worse! Your husband needs to support you fully on this, not yell at you! You need to talk to him about this too. Maybe get the DD more involved with caring for the dog feeding her walking her etc. Perhaps get some professional advice Or Just rehome the poor dog before the situation gets worse Contact your local RGT. There are many Greyhound rehoming charities who will offer advice & help.

ScarlettWalking · 29/12/2010 18:45

This is truly so sad. OP has totally backtracked on her first post where it was clear her DD was terrorising the dog on a regular basis. Beating her until she screamed.

Really sick

NowThen · 29/12/2010 21:38

My dc treat animals with the utmost respect and kindness, simply because they've seen me do it.

This whole sorry tale is very disturbing.

Bmthbelle · 29/12/2010 21:43

Before we get into the big pro/anti racing debate can we rember that that is not what this is about! It is clear that you do care about both your D & dog. Two 20 min walks are perfectly suuffcient for a healthy grey. They are sprinters! They are the laziest creature on the plant! Again this is not what this is about! BeachHoliday makes some good points. It is telling that you say DD startled the Grey by leaning over her whilst she was asleep. This seems to be the origin of the problem. I think perhaps that you do need some professional advice from a dog behaviourist. (Normally no offence, I am really here to help! ) It is the owner that needs trainning not the dog! Until then again I think the trust between your D & dog needs to be rebuilt & D needs to learn how to respect the dog by eg not invading the dogs space especially when sleeping & when she is walking past her etc.Try & get them to play lots of games if your dog is a player. Always started & finished by your D if it's tug your D should always win! Get the ball back if it is ball etc. Get D to hold the lead on walks Greys should be generaly so well behaved on the lead that this shouldn't be a problem unless she is V keen & sees something to chase be aware! lol. Get D to feed the dog always after you have all eaten . D walks through doors etc first etc. This is all about re-establishing the dog's lower postion in the "pack" than your D & should reinforce the bond between them. Your Local RGT is desperate to help you & your dog so please, please do get in touch with them.
www.retiredgreyhounds.co.uk/ I really hope this all works out. I hope DH is now on board this is best approached asa whole family as it is affecting you all! :-( Greys really are a wonderful breed & are so ideal for a family. There are always too many needing a good home, It sounds like yours was until this sad blip occured! Good Luck.

Toughasoldboots · 29/12/2010 21:46

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Bmthbelle · 29/12/2010 22:24

Even if it has been surely getting the child to bond & interact with the dog on good terms has to help surely??? :-) Have to say after just reading all of these post there seems to be not only aggression from the 9 year old! Not terribly helpful if you ask me! :-Z

BeerTricksPotter · 29/12/2010 22:33

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DooinMeCleanin · 29/12/2010 22:40

Yes pack theory has been discredited. Dogs pull to get through doors first because they are excited to get out, not to show they are boss. Similar re the bite, the dog was not establishing leadershio over the dd it was startled and scared and more likely than not has a history of abuse which has lead it to become nervous.

Op - you say you getting a trainer for the dog, but what of the dd? Training the dog, while it might give her more control does not address the issue of her lashing out in an inappropriate way. This needs dealing with.

diddl · 30/12/2010 09:51

"Diddl, Greys are generally retired at about 4 or 5 as they are considered too old for racing by that age, they are not old per se. There is no reason why a carefully assessed, ex racing Grey should not go to an equally carefully assessed family with well behaved young children."

My mistake.

Yes, I knew that they weren´t old,but was thinking highly strung & therefore no children would be best.

Well, if it´s correct that the dog snapped because the daughter disturbed it whilst sleeping, then I can´t see why the daughter has reacted so badly.

I would have thought she was old enough to understand that & that it wouldn´t cause her to be frightened-certainly not enough to keep lashing out.

Bmthbelle · 30/12/2010 12:44

@ BeertricksPotter I didn't mean from any of the people or dog involved I meant from fellow posters towards each other! So much for the season of goodwill!

I am not interested in bitching about each other & theories, just helping this poor Grey & her family to get this sorted with the best outcome for all!

Be that rehoming the dog or training the duaghter OP, & H to co exist peacefully & lovingly!

Ormirian · 30/12/2010 13:01

Why are you training the dog? unless you can teach it to be psychic and stay away from where your DD is going to be I can't see it will help.

The only children I have known be unkind to animals are the ones who are a bit scared of them and act out of that fear. But if she's used to the dog it seems unlikely.

Why does your DH not support you - "dh who saw everything yells at me for yelling at her"? Does he resent the dog a bit, as well as your DD? Is it more your dog than anyone else's?

Ormirian · 30/12/2010 13:02

Alternatively, if you do decide to rehome. I would love to have her

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