have had enough and gone back to bed

[VivaLeBeaver]

They can sort fucking dinner out. Was doing the veg and dd hit the dog. Dog screamed, ran into the table and screamed again. Dd is nine and terrorises the dog for no reason. Am at my witd. End. It'll bite her one day. So i start yelling at dd and dh who saw everything yells at me for yelling at her. Merry fucking xmas.

I'm not blaming Op for the behaviour of her child, I am however saying that she needs to find an effective way to change it. I am however blaming Op for allowing a dog to continue to live in a house where it is beaten and scared so badly that it screams in fear or pain. That is entirely Op's responsibility as she is the adult in this situation.

Crockydoodle, the OP's child does not sound "perfectly ok" at all - and unlike Boo you can't accuse me of not having and thus not knowing about teenagers. One of my 2 is the same age as and sounds very similar in personality to Toughasoldboots' daugher but she has never and would never dare to abuse my pets.

There is yet more solid advice from Salsmum and I really urge the OP to rehome the pets as they are not safe in her home and certainly, as Salsmum says, it would be VERY hard to rehome a dog once he had bitten a child. Many dog rescues won't even take such a dog and would suggest that he should be killed.

PLEASE, VIVA, DON'T LET IT COME TO THAT.

Bluntly, you have already failed the poor dog and committed acts of cruelty yourself by allowing this to happen, particularly every month or so. It's not like it's a one-off! This is not just immoral, it's a criminal offence so if not for the dog's sake then for your own - and potentially your child's as you are allowing her to be at risk of being bitten by your dog - please approach a no kill rescue and give your pets the lives they deserve.

Both Salsmum and I have offered to help. I can't speak for Salsmum but for my part, I work for the dog, not for any particular rescue, not for the owner or the prospective owner and not for myself.

Madam my cats have a santa jacket

One reverse walked the other is quite happy wearing it and is now a vision of red keeping my feet warm, they're very placid tho and we're fine having it put on

Valla, good sound advice I'm sure we could work together if this op decides to 'do the right thing' by the dog we are able to provide rescue back up if you'd be unable to before this dog decides that all kids are nasty and only use it as a punchbag. I dont think the original op is on here now which is a shame because she would then know that her priority should be to get that poor dog out NOW I shall be following this post closely and keeping my fingers xsed x

Thing is, Toughasoldboots is that the OP can prevent the dog being the sole target of her daughter's moods/violence/normal pre teen behaviour/temper tantrums etc (delete as you feel appropriate), if she wants to. She simply removes the dog from the home. But OP doesn't seem to want to do that.

Reading what OP has said here, her daughter is gentle with the other animals they have & isn't violent to other family members! This says to me that the dog is being singled out.

If the daughter was like that with all animals, and rude & violent to parents etc, then I would be inclined to think she has some general behavioural issues, other than just being annoyed with the poor dog.

But it doesn't sound like she does, not to me!

So yeah, call me judgemental that I think it isn't OK to single out a defenceless animal for beatings & being screamed at/chased. Call me smug that my 2yr old & 7 yr old know not to beat & scream at our dog.

The OP can sort this, by removing the dog. Pointing this out being smug or judgemental!

Pointing this out isn't being smug or judgemental!

I really feel sorry for the dog

She needs to know that violence towards the dog is unacceptable and if she does it again there will be consequences (take something away) which you must carry through

I worry that the dog will keep being hit though unless you really do show her there are going to be consequences

that's exactly what I meant, some people can be very smug and judgemental

I read this & didn't realise it was wrt your daughter, not the OP, if that makes sense. As in, we shouldn't be judgemental towards op etc.

How fucking hard do you have to hit a dog for it to scream? Are you nuts?? Why are you keeping the dog? Because madam has a little cry now and then? YUCK

And then you let it cuddle the dog to confuse the poor thing even more. Wow. I feel sick. Are you all sadists?

You really need to get tough with your dd. Sending her to her room and taking toys away really does not suffice I am afraid. My ds is 9,my dog is large, bouncy and often gets in the way. He would not DARE treat her in that way. In fact when he was 5 he snatched our old dogs dinner off her, he thought it was funny until I gave him his food later then snatched it back and made him wait. At 9 she def knows better and you need to get a grip on her behaviour now.

Oh and should you go back to bed? Might as well. You sound as useless out of bed as in it TBH

I really feel there isn't much compassion being shown towards the people involved here.

• Lots of posters coming forward in angry defence of the poor dog.

But doesn't anyone else feel that Christmas and the New Year are about showing some goodwill ?
and working towards being more peaceful and less angry, and not just to the pets in our lives !

I'm sure the situation can be resolved with some careful thought about what would be for the best.

The OP came on here for some support and advice !

Jugglingjo, the advice has been given, by many, many people here, including at least 2 who have appropriate dog-related experience.

Rehome the dog via a suitable dog rescue.

There is no other option. We are not talking of a one-off but of a child who has been allowed to do this repeatedly. The damage has been done - now the OP needs to have the compassion and decency to let the professionals undo it and give that poor animal some semblence of a decent life.

I really feel there isn't much compassion being shown towards the people involved here

How about compassion for a defenceless animal? One that is being beaten/chased/teased/screamed at by a 9yr old who should know better?

Yes, the op came here for support & advice and one reading what people had to say, she started to backtrack.

Season of goodwill, be kind to all men etc...even if they allow torture of a dog?

Right my advice then: Do the decent thing and rehome the dog. By letting your child beat the dog up you are condoning animal abuse. The fact that even posters who aren't animal lovers are horrified by this speaks volumes. So what are you going to do about it?
Hi Val!

I'd think she'd be more likely to act on the good advice given by many ( including Vallhala and myself earlier ) where it is sympathetically and kindly given.

IMHO the degree of anger shown towards the OP is not that constructive.

Compassion to people and animals go together !
Just because I encourage compassion to people does not mean I condone aggression to animals ! ( As I've already said )

You don't have to take sides here !

A win-win situation is easily achievable.

Dog will probably be much happier in another home.

This home will probably be happier without this dog.

JugglingJo: is it a win-win situation though? She will still have a 9 year old with no respect or empathy for animals and tbh I find that very scary!

How would we feel if we substituted the term 'daughter' for 'husband' and the term 'dog' for 'child'?

I'm concerned because my husband terrorises our child. He beats our child up and runs screaming at her. He says he hates her. Recently my child ran away screaming, ran into the table and screamed again. When I tell my husband to walk away if our child annoys him he says 'Why should I?'. It only happens every 6 or 8 weeks so I don't want to live apart from my husband, who is generally sorry afterwards.

Would you feel just as compassionate, Jugglingjo?

Very clever.

But it's a completely different situation.

An adult is not a child.

An animal is not a human.

But I can see your post shows that action does need to be taken.

And yes, I'd still feel some compassion.

And be thinking, how can we make things better in this situation