to not 'do' santa?

[jmt2211]

I don't believe in Santa and refuse to lie to my child about it. The first year he could ask about it was when he was 3 and I just said that lots of people liked to believe in Santa but really he was just pretend.
I have yet to find a single person who has done the same, even if I can get them to agree in principle, no one will agree in practice. I'd love to hear what others think (other than that I am a Scrooge) and see if anyone agrees with me....

unbefuckinlievable.all the nutty aibu,zealous feeding,and argumentative feminist threads

and is fatha christmas gets lots of deletions in one go

funny ole mn

Theres plenty of other posts on this thread that are personnel attacks on the op ..why were those not reported? seems really odd to me

Helen, I respect that you are doing your job but the OP also made several rude and derogatory statements which I personally found offensive. But as a grown up I can accept that she has the right to have an opinion about me even if it's unfounded. And I don't then overreact and ask Mumsnet to beck me up.

scottishmummy Its very odd ,Its funny though bloody santa causing a shitstorm

v bizzare.deletions,name-calling,all over santa

yo-fuckin-ho ladies

Please do report any other posts which you think are personal attacks and we'd be happy to take a look.

I'm not snitching reporting ho ho ho

oh helen but but it wisane me wis her
you couldnt make this up
priceless

yes tit for tat make y'all look really mature

Can't believe this has turned into such a bun mince pie fight!

Santa seems to be a Bad Influence. He will be in line for an ASBO at this rate. i'm liking his edgy new image, though

(every time a MNetter says they don't believe in Santa, a post dies. sob)

And trying to goad people into another argument is equally mature scottishmummy.

Helen - shouldn't there be some consideration that it's not okay to make offensive statements then have the responses deleted? Lots of people made an effort in engaging in this discussion with the OP and it's frustrating when one person runs off complaining of bullying because her views are unpopular.

i only arrived laughing at all the wisnae me helen

It was me ...but I've said a lot worse than smug and never been deleted

We don't do Santa in our house and are quite happy to declare it all nonsense when we need to.

We are Christians and the true message of Christmas is so much bigger and more enduring that 'Santa' could ever be. This is what we share with our children.

@maryz

Do you think we should report every one of the op's posts and say we find them offensive .

On the other hand, that would make the thread unreadable so it might be deleted, which is, I suspect, what she wants.

Helen, I really think that you should look at your requirement for something to be offensive.

"you are an idiot".

"you sound like a twit"

"in my opinion that wasn't a very nice thing to do"

"What a stupid thing to say"

"You were behaving like a real bitch".

Can all those go, if reported?

You might as well go to netmums.

Sorry, I really don't want to be pedantic, but really

Hi Maryz - yes a lot of those count as personal attacks in our book so we would delete them if reported. We don't have many rules but that's one of them, and has been so on MN for the last decade. Whether it's in AIBU or not if you call someone and idiot/twat/bitch you're being personal and it's an attack. Of course you have every right to sad they are BU and explain why you think so but we find if people stray into the personal the conversation usually rapidly deteriorates, so that's why we have the rule.
Hope that clarifies a bit. Peace and goodwill and all that .

titter,wisnae me,wis her,she said, i said.yo ho ho

Ooooooh , Justine is here. You are all in trouble now.

I agree with op. When dcs were small I would take time in the day to catch them and gently remind them

' yes darling, it is a lovely tractor. But never forget that one day you will die alone'

@maryz

I've just had an idea.

Can you just remove the offensive bit of the post.

So my first deleted post (which sent this all mad) read:

"Your last few posts have made you out to be a right pompous ass

"My child is not disappointed now nor will he be in the future, you kids will and not just about santa" is a really stupid thing to say. All children will be disappinted by various things at some stage in their lives.

I presume you will sit watching videos and telling them that characters aren't real, that you will only read factual books not novels, in case they believe the books are real hmm.

Father Christmas in most families is a bit of fun. If you don't want to do it, fine, don't, but don't think you are in some way better than everyone else because you aren't "lying" to your child. What a load of bollox."

So you could have deleted the first pompous ass sentence. I really don't believe it was offensive enough to be deleted. And certainly the rest of the post wasn't offensive at all (I think). So there was no need for deletion.

Maybe you need a "message edited by mumsnet to remove offensive part" or "message deleted because the op didn't like it".

That would be more accurate.

Actually on reflection we probably shouldn't have deleted the "your posts are making you sound like a pompous ass" and wouldn't usually because it's discursive rather than at direct attack. So apologies for that. But there were lots of fairly hostile posts towards the OP who was new and fairly upset about it. And has left MN never to return. Just so you know...

stop being a sook.oh i never noticed lady justine