Wankerbastards standing together. Moderatin' may take a hit while around us things are shit. But we stand arm in arm, heart to heart but a respectable 2 meters apart.

[Frouby]

Thread 10 for the tryers.

All welcome for support and tips and chat about controlling our relationship with alcohol.

Previous threads knocking around.

No rules except we don't do politics about the C word. And because there is so many other C word chats we ask that we limit mention of it once a day for things that are worrying, followed up by a positively Pollyanna point about something nice about the situation.

Ha! I’d probably consider a box of wine this afternoon. It’s glorious!

Oh I really hope it’s not her appendix 🤞

I’m going to sit in the sun and read my book, while DS2 does his French homework. I’ve started letting little Toby out to potter round the yard and he’s loving the fresh air and freedom. He’s not tried to follow his big bro over the fence yet, which is perfect ❤️

Afternoon all

Hope everyone feeling rough feels better soon. Last thing anyone needs is feeling poorly in the middle of all this.

I've taken to my bed this afternoon. Slept rubbish again. Then went to do a food shop and it's hit me how much things have changed in just a week. Am going to try and avoid supermarkets from now on. Luckily there is an M and S and a wilkos next to each other on our retail park so going to shop there next week.

Dh and ds gone to the allotment for an hour for their exercise. Am going to send dd out with the dog to get her out of the house and I am going to have a lovely bath.

Feel a bit crap for missing the nice weather but I literally haven't stopped for nearly 2 weeks and its all been a bit emotional and continues to be emotional and stressful so am practicing a bit of self care.

Hoping dishy rishi has some good news for us this afternoon. And apparently I can furlough myself to cover my paye salary as well so that's something at least.

Dd seems ok and is asleep now, phew. Frouby, enjoy your bath. NC4, can we have a pic?

Strange times. Have taken a chicken out of The freezer to roast tomorrow night so intending to do a family meal, with wine, I’m looking forward to it. It’ll feel like normality. Sort of.

Fuck it, I’m putting wine in the freezer now I think. To drink later.

It’s been a shitty day, dd being ill (although she seems fine now, thank fuck); friend objected to a meme I sent (I know everyone is sensitive right now but I left the group chat anyway, what I sent was really not offensive); dh has been snappy with me and I WANT WINE so I’m going to. 2 days AF in a row is better than nothing.

I hope everyone else is as ok as they can be. Please don’t leave this thread, I find it really helpful and sane amongst the madness. Love to all.

Just whizzing by. How’s the soreness NC4?? Only glanced at your pic. Is it cellulitis?? My dd had that in November. Started as a red patch. And it seemed to grow under the skin. She was really poorly with it and in hospital on a drip for several days. You really must keep an eye on it lovely. Is it warm to touch??

Will be back properly later to say hi. X

Hi Flossie, yes it is and it’s growing. I’ve been in touch with the GP again today and they’ve doubled my antibiotics but it’s still getting worse. I’ve been to the pharmacist for a sterile dressing but it isn’t helping at all. I’m quite scared.
The doctors just keep saying keep an eye on it, but I can see me being admitted to hospital.
If that happens tomorrow at least DS2 is at their dads and DS1 can look after the cats.
I’ve been crying tonight though. I’d have a drink but I want to give the meds the best chance of working.

NC. Sorry you are struggling. Can you get an early night? X

Nc4 are you sure that you aren't immune to the particular antibiotics you are taking?I know when I have had UTIs I've had to try different antibiotics when the first prescribed didn't work for me.

I'm lying low as I am not commenting at all on the C word - but am reading and am so worried about you, NC4. Your DSs are old enough to cope. Please just make sure you get this looked at. A&E is apparently not too bad at the moment as all the regulars are staying at home. I am absolutely not a medic, but it sounds as if you need this looking at. I know it's easy to think that there are no medical conditions than CV at the moment, but this sounds suitably worrying to me (and I have almost died twice as a result of refusing to go to A&E, so take it from a pro).

Water, I hope your DD is ok too.

Doubt I will ever be dry again, but that's not my reason for posting now.

Nc4, I’m back. Talk to someone darling. My daughter got put on the sepsis pathway. Her red hot patch came up within minutes. It also changed shape under the skin, before our eyes. Dd had to have two types of antibiotics IV.
I don’t want to scare you and it’s such a horrid thing to have right now. But put CV aside and look at how you’re feeling and what things look like. Have you got a fever? Or feel sick??
Ask me anything about it. Dd had so many symptoms.
Big hugs to you x

Ps - Dion, I don’t think I’ll ever be dry again either!! Ever never ever!!!!!!!!! I’m worried about my liver lots. But I’m also worried about the world right now. So I’m drinking. Lots and lots

NC4, I hope you're having it seen to. When I said your DSs are old enough to cope, I meant they are old enough to cope for an evening while you get seen to! (Sorry if I was unclear).

Our lovely Flossie is right to encourage you to think beyond CV. xx

NC4 - I hope you’re ok xxx

Thanks lovelies. No, I don’t have a fever at the moment, which seems to be the main concern of the doctors. The redness is very hot though and has a hard patch under my arm (bingo wing, not armpit).
The boys dad rang me last night and made the very good point that the CV crisis isn’t going to go away in the next 24 hours but my immune system might, so if I need to go to hospital, I’m better doing it sooner than later. He said the chance of catching it is the same but how badly it affects me if I do get it could change.
Then he made me laugh about things that have happened when I’ve been in hospital before, and said he’ll keep hold of DS2 as long as I need him to and DS1 can look after the cats at home, so that was reassuring.
I’m glad we get on again these days. It’s good to have a friend like that.

Nc4 - that’s very wise words said by him too!!

Watch for cold temp as well as hot temp.

Dd had the hard lump. You should draw around the redness and see if there are changes. I’ll try find a pic of dd’s for you to compare. She had definite cellulitis..

This was caused by a simple flu vaccine!! 🙈

It was the preschool booster that caused DS2s Flossie. Horrible isn’t it?

Ok, apologies if anyone’s squeamish- I’ll ask MNHQ to remove the pic later, but I think I see/feel an improvement...

Was DD feverish with it Flossie? I don’t remember DS2 being but it was 10 years ago! I think in ordinary circumstances they’d have had me in but its safer for everyone if I can be treated at home

Yes she was. She had temp of 40.7. She vomited too. And couldn’t wee. She was hard to wake. They thought it was sepsis. It came on so quick!!

She had the vaccine at 2pm on Saturday. And at 2am Sunday morning she was roasting hot and vomited. Then she got better. Which apparently is common, then within about an hour she went from being ok to being delirious. We showered her and there was no rash. Put her in the car and took her to hospital. They were waiting for her and examined her, and the rash had appeared. Within about half an hour!!

Hello everyone, thanks for bearing with me. NC4, so sorry you're poorly, i do hope you are getting better but please don't put yourself on danger if there is doubt.

I don't know where to begin describing the past couple of weeks. I have never been so stressed - i honestly couldn't do anything except sit in a darkened room without passing out. But i feel quite calm now - the domestic stress of how tf to manage london lockdown with 2 hyper,/heartbroken kids and a sick dh has taken over. It's quite intense here, there isn't really anywhere to go without breaching the 2m rule, and every other person is ill with suspected covid and self isolating. I don't yet know anyone very ill, which is something to be grateful for, but BIL in Oz is pretty unwell, though at home.

I couldn't keep up with all the emails, zoom whatsits and social media whirlwind so i have been focussing on scaling everything back. I keep having dreadful panics about London descending into dog eat dog hunger games and have been wondering about an escape plan, but at the moment things feel pretty calm, nicer than usual really as so much quieter and fresher. The dc have been utterly insane - hyper, screechy, violent, heartbroken, gabblingly intense, adorable, whingy, creative, resourceful. I feel like i have chosen the most stressful week of my entire life, while 3 out of 4 of us have flu and DM and MIL are geographically distant and needy, to embark on supernanny boot camp and turn them into quiet, uncomplaining and house-trained children before work begins again next week. And it's not going very well. But there are moments that are just so touching. I was in a flap yesterday because i needed a sympathy card for a colleague but we can't go to shops, and dd1 painted me one. I have put them in charge of hoovering, laundry and some cooking. Whatever could go wrong?

Nc4, how are you today? I’m glad your ex is being helpful.

Longest, sounds shitty! Ikwym about the hectic ness of everything, I’ve muted a couple of group chats.

Am slightly hungover but sfw tbh! Have put wine in the fridge for later.

Longest - sending you a mahoosive hug. You poor thing. My sister lives in London and I do feel so sorry for you all there. It must feel nothing but utter intensity. X

De Profundis.

NC4, I have been worrying about you (though am sorry to say I liked the photo sporn). It's great about your ex, though. Some good things can come out of the bad, and this is one.

Longest, hugs. I know you are having a hard time, and you are right in the eye of the storm, geographically. That must be very hard, especially with DH's condition. Your DDs will be fine, not least as you are their mum.

Here, it is like living in a ghost town. The Police are circulating, to make sure that we are not making non-essential journeys. There isn't a soul around.

I have decided that there is no chance at all of being dry now, so am fully embracing this revelation.

longest it really is literally the worst of times and the best of times. I keep telling myself that this is the only time in their lives I will have my children with me 247 for this period of time, other than when they were babies. I will keep them safe and away from harm and they will remember this time as our home and family being shelter and love and nuturing. Very De Profoundus but it's true. We will get on each others nerves, ds will drive me mad with his shrieking and it's bloody hard work being mum, teacher and playmate but when this is done we won't ever forget it.

NC how is your arm? Knew it didn't sound good, wood is generally filthy. Keep in touch with the medics, don't take any chances.

Dion how are you bearing up? Do lots of long walks lovely. Xxx

water I don't know how you are managing any dry days at all. I'm permanently pissed. Twice I have woken up at 2am, sweating and feeling shocking, convinced myself I have Corona before I realise it's just the beer wearing off.

Have had a lovely day though. Pottered this morning then spent a good couple of hours on the allotment. Seems a bit unfair that we get an outside space like that but no different to a big garden and we do genuinely need to go once a day for the chooks. And there is no limit on exercise time so we make the most of it. Then came home, dossed around watching films and then made a curry for dinner. Had 2 very small glasses of wine which is so much better than the 5 cans I have been having.

Attached a picture of ds and his poor shaven head trying to eat his snacks without being attacked by a herd of chickens.

Frouby. You are a love.

I would that I could walk, but I can't. I used to walk 10 miles every day. Now I manage to get myself up and down the stairs for a wee/bed by means of grim determination and by pulling myself up and down with the bannister. Because the alternative is too awful to contemplate. I am riddled with arthritis and hypermobility, which is an evil combination. Every single bit of me hurts. The pain keeps me awake. I drink partly to try to dull some of it. I had a hospital appointment but it has been cancelled due to sodding bastarding Corona.

Flossie, that's such a scary story. Hugs.