Wankerbastards standing together. Moderatin' may take a hit while around us things are shit. But we stand arm in arm, heart to heart but a respectable 2 meters apart.

[Frouby]

Thread 10 for the tryers.

All welcome for support and tips and chat about controlling our relationship with alcohol.

Previous threads knocking around.

No rules except we don't do politics about the C word. And because there is so many other C word chats we ask that we limit mention of it once a day for things that are worrying, followed up by a positively Pollyanna point about something nice about the situation.

It's just for a few weeks. And in the UK you can still go out and exercise, with all the family, no self certificate!and ID required when you leave home and no curfew. It's hard, but could be a lot harder.

Oh Dion its so awful I know.

I've swung between being desperate for lockdown to praying that it doesnt happen. Now it's happening I hate it. Have been awake since 3am and have given up now and come downstairs. It seems particularly unfair that if people had just done what was asked and they had closed schools earlier it wouldn't be necessary.

Am also fucking raging at China right now. Why didn't they close their borders and contain it? Why didn't the world impose 14 day quarantine on people entering the country blah blah blah.

Some potential positive news is there is a bill going through to pay self employed 80% of their income if that helps anyone out.

It will help me out Frouby, significantly. My business is on ice at the moment, and I can’t see £94 a week going far between the three of us.
I’ve been tangling my head over whether the boys are allowed to visit their dad. It looks like they can now, but I’m not overly keen. I just want to keep everyone safe - especially our NHS.
I’ve been up early today too. I managed to get a chunk of wood lodged in my arm on Sunday and it’s swollen and hot, so I’m waiting for a call from the GP. It’s very sore, but I think antibiotics will sort it.

Watch for a thin red line tracking up NC.

Has anyone heard from Longest? Bit worried don't thinks she's posted for a while.

Michael Give said on breakfast telly we allowed to go to allotment thank fuck. Gonna go there as soon as ds is dressed. He's currently washing the pots, he's surprisingly good at it . Stacks them properly and wipes sides after and hands teatowel to dry.

Going to get some herb seedlings planted and get the first earlies in, just incase we go to a stricter lockdown and am allowed to allotment just to feed chooks. If they are in and growing nothing much any9cam do and have a feeling it's going to be a period of strict then not so strict measures.

Dh at work sigh. Building and manufacturing to carry on as normal despite not being essential. Apparently they are essential to the economy and we've to carry on. Obviously relieved from a financial point of view but would rather he be at home, especially if they are going to pay us 80% but they won't want to pay construction industry 80% will they? Feedback from others is about 70% of sites have closed. Hopefully ours will close later this week if not today.

ditto re @longestlurkerever Frouby
I think the last time she posted she wasn't well, neither was her DH, plus they are in London. I hope you are all OK Longest

What does a thin red line mean Frouby? The doctor has given me antibiotics, which means I get a trip out to collect them this afternoon. Yay!

Yes, also thinking of Longest I know it was all getting a bit overwhelming down there. Sending soggy hugs if you’re reading xx

Longest, I hope you’re ok.

Wasn’t AF last night but never mind. I’m going to give it a go now for a few days though. I collected ds from university today so that’s a relief now we’re locked down.

Lots of love to everyone.

Hi guys, thank you. I'm physically ok but have been to hell and back mentally. Got to the stage of passing out with anxiety and i couldn't pick up my phone without losing consciousness. Not about the virus as such although that's horrendous to the nth degree, but the spiralling panic of traumatising my girks by bringing them up in the epicentre, combined with peak domestic stress. I am calming down and trying to work out what the hell to do when i am supposed to go back to wfh (signed myself off sick this week) I am allegedly a keyworker according to my bosses (who write the guidance) but a funny sort of keyworker who can work from home. But can i, with only a sick, homeworking dh in charge? Am in a muddle

I will pop back to share the highs and lows of self isolating but it is not at all boring, i have never been so busy in my life. Xxxx

NC a thin red line leading from an infection on a limb or finger can be a sign of infection tracking further up the area and its quite dangerous. Also draw round the wound if it's red and hot with a marker oen to see if it's spreading. If it does or you get a tracking line then phone 111 asap as it's pretty serious.

longest good to see you back. My mental health is the worst it has ever been. I am quite a calm, stoic non flappy persin generally but am waking up at 4am every day and can't get back tk sleep. Came downstairs at 4.30 and have been awake every since. I am fine in the day, come night time I am bang out but then awake at sparrows fart and can't get back to sleep. Had a few tearful days last week which so isn't me and an generally a stressy anxious mess. So you definitely aren't alone.

Hi I think we are all massively struggling and that is allowed. It's such a nightmare situation. We need to hold tight and stick together. X

I'm so glad you are OK Longest, at least OK in the sense you haven't caught the virus. I'm really sorry about your anxiety problems, it must be very draining.
I'm lucky in that we are far away from everything here, and my DC are really happy, DH is an optimist and never gets down about anything, the sun is shining and so things are quite easy even though we've been in lockdown for a week now. Things could be a lot worse, none of us are ill, we have the internet, a garden, lots to keep us occupied. The worst thing is if I have to go out to the supermarket where it is very quiet and everyone who works there is depressed, unsurprisingly so as they are on the front line.
My main worry is if the right to exercise outside is withdrawn. I already break the law by running twice a day instead of once and go further than the specified 1km distance. But then I run for the rest of my family, never meet anyone on the footpaths and only go to the supermarket once a week so I don't think I'm much of a risk. But I could still shop the 135€ fine.
I'm also really enjoying having DD (19) back from university, she can't see her friends or BF and it is fantastic spending family time with her. There is an upside to everything.

Sorry everyone is struggling- it’s not surprising is it, we’d be odd if we weren’t reacting in some way to this strange new world.

I’ve had a few 4am wakings too. And have been anxious, tearful, snappy and worried.

But today I’m a bit happier, I’m not sure why. Maybe because we are at last being told to stay home but I think I’ve also decided to make the best of it and also not to give in to going fuck it and knocking back the wine. Today is day 1 AF again, day 10 in March and day 43 in 2020 total. I’m in bed already and have no cold wine in the house so I’m not tempted. I’m relieved to have ds home, he is being lovely and cooked for dd tonight.

Tomorrow we are going to have a tidy up and clean up and also plant some seeds and I'm going to walk on the treadmill too and maybe cook a bit. Tonight at supper we all said three things we are grateful for and it was nice. I think we’re all experiencing an entirely understandable reaction to a shocking world event.

Welcome back longest 🙂

It’s really sore Frouby. Feels like I’ve been stabbed 😩 It didn’t feel like much at the time either. The GP reckons 24 - 48 hours of antibiotics should see it going down. Feeling a bit sorry for myself, if I’m honest.

Sorry to hear you’re struggling Longest. How are your girls? I do think kids are more resilient than we think. Everything’s new for them, so what’s a massive scary thing for us is just another unknown to them.

My homeschooling isn’t going great. There have been tears and tantrums from both of us. Can’t really be arsed with trying to work too. It’s annoying. My head hasn’t got room for it but I need to tomorrow.

Is anyone AF? I feel much better with a bottle of rose in me. I’m back on the fags too, since my friend was in hospital. I was meant to quit again after the funeral but we went straight into this. Excuses, excuses...

madame you sound very positive about it all.

I'm absolutely fine with staying within our current rules. I'm antisocial anyway though I miss my mum and my sisters and my school run friend.

But am devastated for dd not doing exams. And although ds is fine atm I know he is missing his friends too.

Am ecstatic that I can take him to the allotment though. We are going to take lunch up with us tomorrow and he can have a polytunnel picnic where no one can see us.

And my lovely hairdresser has been in touch to say to not be tempted by a box dye, she's got everyones colour cards at home and will post us a tube of our colour out and tell us what strength peroxide we need and mixing and applying instructions. So that has cheered me up.

That’s really nice of your hairdresser Frouby. I’m having a first world wobble about my nails. I might have to soak them off but I hate them without acrylic on.
DS2 needs a haircut too. That’s going to be fun. Do I a) let him go full caveman, b) shave the lot or c) attempt some kind of style?!

Frouby that's nice 're your. Hairdresser. Just what we need at the moment. Little acts of kindness.
Here is mine. Yesterday on my walk went past a shop which had closed for the duration. They had put all their seed potatoes and onion sets outside for people to take. With a ton for a charitable donation.
How
Lovely is that?
I also have an allotment. So that's me sorted for potatoes and onion.
Dion hope you are still reading.

Morning all

I actually feel much better today and less stressed. I did sleep from 10.30 to 5.30 which helps lol.

There is a thread on here about an article in the FT. Full of very clever people who I don't fully understand but basically says that maybe 60% of the population have already had it which is a gamechanger. Might be a load of bollocks but it's made me feel better.

Not sure what the plan is for today. Some housework, schoolwork and allotment so far.

Hi everyone, feeling cheerful again today, had a brilliant night sleep which always helps! 9.45 - 7.30, fab.

Today I’ve walked 2 miles on the treadmill, and chatted to friends on Zoom and now I’m making soup to use up leftover spinach. The children have done chores in garden and dh has taken the table and chairs out of the garage and put out so we can sit outside.

Day 2 AF, won’t drink tonight as there is no cold wine. We are also going to get the hammock out from the garage later.

I’ve just coughed a few times so hope that goes otherwise my calm mood will be disrupted for sure.

That sounds like a good day Water. Nice and productive.
I seem to have got into a routine of work in the morning, homeschooling in the afternoon, and the evening watching TV and relaxing with the boys.
I’m worried about my arm though. The swelling has spread even more today and I’m more than 48 hours into my antibiotics. If it doesn’t improve overnight I’m going to have to get back on to the doctor. I’m just mindful that DS2 had cellulitis in his arm from his preschool boosters and had to have IV antibiotics and an overnight stay in hospital. Obviously that would be a huge problem right now. Maybe there’s something stronger I can have orally?

Oh god NC4, I hope it starts to respond.

Checking in for day 3 AF here, day 12 in March and day 45 in 2020.

Dd has been throwing up, 111 say she needs to see a GP so hoping I get through asap

I’ve just spoken to the GP - she’s doubling my antibiotics and hoping for the best for now 😬

Oh no, your poor DD Water. Hoping it’s just a bug and you don’t all get it. My doctors are really good for appointments but my mum’s are terrible. It seems to be pot luck. I hope yours are good.

Fingers crossed for you NC4.

GP thought appendix, have been worried as we really don’t want to be anywhere near a hospital or even a GP surgery. GP agreed. He asked me to call back at lunchtime to decide what to do next. I’ve been lying next to her in bed and she’s just said she feels a bit better so I’m tentatively relieved. May crack and drink wine tonight but will have to open box of wine and refrigerate it first so will need to decide this afternoon. May yet resist!

That’s not a wine box, it’s a case of wine that has been delivered but not refrigerated!