Wankerbastards standing together. Moderatin' may take a hit while around us things are shit. But we stand arm in arm, heart to heart but a respectable 2 meters apart.

[Frouby]

Thread 10 for the tryers.

All welcome for support and tips and chat about controlling our relationship with alcohol.

Previous threads knocking around.

No rules except we don't do politics about the C word. And because there is so many other C word chats we ask that we limit mention of it once a day for things that are worrying, followed up by a positively Pollyanna point about something nice about the situation.

Fuck dion didn't realise it was that bad. am so sorry. If you are in that much pain though you need to see someone, Corona or no Corona. Please phone your gp monday and explain how bad it is x

Thank you lovely Frouby. There is no reason at all why you should have known that. I am in the referral system as "urgent". Which means I have an appointment in May, assuming it isn't cancelled meanwhile...

Oh Dion you poor thing. I have hyper mobility too but thankfully no arthritis yet. Are you in with a rheumatologist? It sounds like you should be? And a good physio. Unfortunately the NHS ones seem clueless about hyper mobility and private are expensive, which I know is a barrier.
If you could only get the help to be well enough to exercise you could strengthen the supporting muscles, but you aren’t there yet. I feel for you. Luckily I’m pretty well and strong (gammy arm aside) at the moment but just hypermobility can be debilitating if it gets bad, without factoring arthritis in too.
Hugs my love, and a share of my posh gin xxx

NC4 hugs to you too. Thank you. Your post and Frouby's made me feel a bit weepy as well as painful.

I am a very, very tough old Northern boot, and will not be defeated by pain, even if every step makes me want to cry.

This is one reason why the 'allowed outside but only for exercise' thing is so awful for me. My normal routine is to keep going, gently, all day. I walk to work, and walk back, with difficulty and with medical aids. I walk to the shops. These are all shortish walks but they add up to me feeling sane.

Telling someone who can't really walk but is desperate to be fit that they can go out for one walk a day is tantamount to torture.

I have meanwhile stopped eating, because that will at least help to counteract the lack of exercise not stopped drinking, though

Dion, love, it sounds pure torture and i don't have anything to say to make it better, but my reading of the rules is that walking to work and for your essential items would be ok in addition to your one walk for exercise. That is not the case in France i know.

Just triumphed in sodding zoom quiz with neighbours. Not dry.

Also huge hugs to Longest. You’ve really been through it. London is so much scarier and your girls are that difficult age where you can’t send them out to exercise or leave them at home while you do, but they are well past the babies who nap and go to bed at 7pm stage too.
It’s very hard, and anxiety takes it out of you in every way.

Frouby I love DSs skinhead. We were just discussing post-isolation haircuts earlier. We were saying we’ll see a rise in skinheads and man-buns, when DS1 piped up, ‘it’s not a man-bun, it’s a twat-knot!’
I don’t allow gratuitous swearing, but I let that one through for comedy value.

Twice this week I’ve gone to bed without finishing the bottle. Either I’m ill, or Swampy’s paying a visit.

Get in Longest!! I do like the new wave of social interaction that’s come out of all this. I hope some of it sticks.

Dion I understand that. The little and often thing. I think you can do a couple of trips if needed - DS1 has been doing a trip to the market for me every couple of days on top of his exercise, because mentally, one trip outdoors a day isn’t enough to keep him on an even keel. Some people pop to the corner shop for bread and milk each morning.
The most important thing is still hand washing, and limiting your social circles as much as possible, but if you can manage a short and essential errand, you can.
Xxx

There are lots of things i like about this new life actually. The roads are quieter, the air is fresher, there's a sense of community and broader unity building bridges and healing divides. The girls turn out to be born home schoolers. If it was just staying in, i think it'd be ok, even though I'm likely to murder the next person who mentions "a slower pace of life" as the pace feels utterly insane. It's the broader anxiety I'm struggling with, and the pressure cooker with dh.

In a twist of events that you couldn't make up, i have a Skype interview for my dream job next week! Wtaf.

Ooh congratulations on the interview Longest!! That’s exciting!

Also brilliant that your DDs are adapting to home schooling. I do wonder if some families just won’t send their children back to school at the end of this.
DS2 doesn’t really like change, so this week has been tough, but when he gets used to it (which I think by this time next week), he’ll love it. He’s a real homebody and doesn’t like the hustle and bustle of school, and all the social nuances.

I’ve still got a manky arm, but it’s less manly than yesterday. I’ve started doing a bit of housework today, which I haven’t really felt up to all week.

Dion how are you doing?

Anyone up for some kind of quiz?

Just to say I'm so pleased for you, longest, and thank you, NC4 xx

May I join please? I am sort of doing a "Covid Quit so no one can see me lose my Shit" thing. I am on day two and wanted a drink at 10am this morning. I never drink in the mornings so I have no idea what that is about.

Hi Dragon, of course you can join. We’re all dealing with our own stuff and attempting to moderate. I’m not sure how well that’s going for any of us at the moment, but we’ll always support each other’s aims.
The one rule we have is no judgement. Other than that, we’re all on a journey.
Well done on day 2. I’ve had some really great months, but this isn’t one of them.
What would you like to achieve ultimately?

Absolutely up for a quiz NC4! How’s your sore bit?

Longest, congratulations on getting an interview, good luck.

Dragon, welcome to the thread

Slightly hungover today but dh and I had a good night in the end, after a minor argument. I do love him and I probably was BU. Think I need a few days AF now, although I have three quarters of a bottle left over from last night and I’m not throwing that away so maybe will do Monday - Thursday AF. Hmm, we’ll see.

My app tells me I’ve had 11AF days in March, I need to do better in April but I think it’s understandable in the circumstances!

Morning all

Are all the walking wounded accounted for and OK? Adding to the tally with a fucked back again. Ffs. Think I over did digging on the plot and it's fucking sore now. Darent take Ibu either incase I have Corona and don't realise so making do with paracetamol. Also having an early period and flooding like a bastard so am a regular little ray of fucking sunshine.

Having said that lockdown going reasonably well. Wanted to stab dh yesterday. Fucker asked if he could go get the essential list as he was bored. Told him not to come back without loo roll, satsumas or dog poo bags as we needed them. Said avoid tesco and morrisons cos it be carnage but M and S and wilkos should cover everything on list and failing loo roll try little asda or petrol station or local shop.

He got to retail park, didn't fancy queue for M and S. Went in wilkos, got some bits he needed, forgot dog poo bags and wipes which were also on list but not an essential then went to little spar for rest of it so paid top money for cereal, shit bread and shit chicken kievs and they didn't have bog roll either. Fuck sake. Know M and S had loo roll in as had already checked with a neighbour. He just didn't want to queue. But I queue for everything these days it's just part of our new life.

So had to go to little Asda, queue to get in and queue to pay. Obviously that's fine for me to do cos I have a vagina.

Anyhow, apart from him getting bollocked for being useless and not doing his bit we have had an OK weekend. They went to allotment yesterday while I pottered at home, then dh cooked steak and we watched Mandorlin or whatever it is on the Disney plus bollocks. Have had a cooked breakfast and sunday roast for dinner.

Contemplating a nan nap shortly. Life in the fast lane here 😃.

I’m ok thanks Frouby. Still not 100% but back to around 80 I’d say. Sorry to hear about your back and period from hell. That’s a bad combo.

And annoying husband actually. Turns out I’ve got one of those, too. He keeps texting me stressing over divorce admin. You’d think the fact he’s filing for divorce might trigger the ‘ask someone else’ reflex, wouldn’t you?

My friend hosted a zoom party last night. It was carnage. Everyone talking over each other, two people falling out and flouncing out, too much booze, and fun dancing at midnight. I’m not in a rush to repeat it - well not with those people anyway, and yet I couldn’t tear myself away!

We’ve just ordered a takeaway. I have an unopened bottle of red wine, which I’m half eyeing up, despite last night’s excess. I might join Water on a Monday to Friday streak.

Well I managed to have a dry day. Don't know how but I did. First one in about 3 weeks I reckon. Kids are just washing Sunday dinner pots, was very late doing it due to not turning oven on properly. Ds at 6 gets washing, dd 15 gets to dry and put away. Ds is much better than her at washing and doesn't whine half as much.

He's very bossy though. Can hear him just now rejecting a plate that's not quite scraped enough 😂😂😂.

Back feels a bit better, have taken it very easy though. Had 2 hours laid on bed playing on phone and watching friends which was nice and not something I ever do. Haven't left the house today and not even arsed. It's cold and windy and was trying to snow earlier.

Think am getting Stockholm Syndrome. Quite enjoying being a recluse.

Thank you for the welcomes, I am up for a quiz (I suck at them).

@NC4Now Yeah this month has been shit for me too, but I had a wake up call (a bad one) and if I don't do it now I could mess up a lot of things. It really impacts my mental wellbeing in a negative way and it's a pretty bad mess with this lockdown stuff already.

Sorry to hear about your back @Frouby , do you have any arnica gel? I find it really useful. I do usually take it with wine and codeine though. So maybe not the arnica on reflection. Well done on your dry day.

@NC4Now wait, he's divorcing you and texting you for advice? You could come out of this pretty well could you not if you think carefully about the advice you give him?

I have made it through day 3 though I almost didn't. I am finding sweety sugary shit drinks are helping but I still feel pretty crap.

Lol NC4 at the ex asking for divorce advice. Glad you’re a bit better. Ha ha at the Zoom party too. Have you opened the wine?

Frouby, I hope you feel better soon too.

I’ve just had a glass of wine and won’t be AF but may do Mon - Thursday AF.

I’m avoiding the news and it helps A LOT! Unless there’s a vaccine, testing or an end to lockdown I don’t really want to know.

They are saying end of June for end of lockdown, aren’t they? DS1 has his 18th on the 30th, and I’ve said he can have a party if we’re allowed to mingle again by then.
How’s that for a gamble? 😂

I think the deputy was saying six months... Which means both girls' birthdays will be in lockdown. I feel bad for dd2, she's been looking forward to her party for a year.

Weekend was ok. Not great, tbh, but not as car crash awful as earlier un the week. I spent the whole of Saturday cleaning my health hazard of a kitchen. It's now all organised. Today i did the kids' wardrobes and the hall so we can actually find stuff. Am going to be so busy with work and childcare, i can do without hunting for shoes etc.

Managed a nerdy zoom board game night with dsis and dcousin, which worked ok. Went for a walk round the reservoir. Kids whined but glad we got out.

Wish dh wasn't on this silly diet. Makes restricted shopping that much harder and i have to cook a zillion different meals. Plus kitchen is constantly covered in grease. On the positive side the Turkish supermarkets near me are all open, no queues and plebry of stock, plus my usual fruit and veg stall.

Just getting my period too frouby. All we need really, but at least we're at home if we flood.

AF for once. Might go to bed soon actually.

Glad you're on the mend NC4. Yes to wuiz, though an rubbish. In fact i have the questions from the other night if you want me to host one.

How's everyone going?

I am not sure today is going to be an AF day.

Also, hope this lockdown does not go on for six months!

I might be AF today, not really tempted even though there is cold white wine. I’m almost fed up of wine iykwim? Actually an early night and some trashy tv sounds nice.

Woo hoo, didn’t drink today and I’m about to go to sleep so won’t. Day 12 AF in March and day 45 in 2020.

AF here too. Better day really. Did some work and spent some time with the kids but dh did the lion's share of the childcare. Had quick bike ride round the park with dd1 and a bit of cleaning. One good thing: am losing weight. Eating is hassle.

Afternoon all

Wasnt af yesterday and have a stinking hangover now. Deserved but still.

Bloody fil been carted off in an ambulance this morning. Been in bed 4 days ill, couldn't even get to toilet apparently. Hos girlfriend phoned this morning (shes 78!) to ask what she should do as he wasnt eating or drinking and she couldnt get him up to change the sheets again. I phoned 111 who sent an ambulance. Paramedics suspect either sepsis or Corona though he doesn't have a cough yet. Fml.

He is 74, hasn't been observing lock down, won't be told what to do and has had 2 strokes already. Tried to get through to hospital but A and E not answering (understandably) so no idea what's happening and as far as I know no visitors allowed (again understandably).

Not confident there will be a good outcome from this at 74 and having had strokes. Will probably stay dry today incase we need to get to him in an emergency. Stay safe everyone.