Wankerbastards move to 2020. With moderatin' a plenty. We rage against flouncers, strops and teens, and of dryness we have big dreams. We want teacups not fuckups!

[Frouby]

Thread 9 for the tryers to be dryers. Join us if you want some support to reduce alcohol. All welcome for support, laughs and moderating.

Will tag a few peoples name I can spell as I am useless at clicky links.

@flossie
@madameforest
@longestlurkerever
@dionoysa
@waterandlemonjuice

I don't really know what to think of the response quite honestly. I know what you mean, it sounds quite brutal, but i am not sure if "we will all be fine" would have been any more reassuring really in the circumstances. And the more i read the more i think there's something in this herd immunity theory though it's not at all certain. But unless you're going to stay in lockdown forever aren't you going to get reinfection unless herd immunity develops through a vaccine or otherwise?

Ugh, anyway, i feel pretty rubbish. Am sure it is just a really bad cold but i cannot stop sneezing and i just want to go to bed but can't because dd2 is off so i am in board game purgatory. At least we all seem to have the same thing so i am not having to stay in my bedroom being fed under the door. Which reminds me- once me and my fellow students somehow got locked in a classroom behind an ancient thick door and the caretaker had to post us after eights under the door as it was all hr could think of that would fit. We got out eventually!

I feel for everyone with money worries on top of everything else. I don't think it's helpful for people to start saying "all we care about is money in this country". It's all very well but poverty kills too.

Cheery.

Just flying by and catching up. Had a very non-moderate night with Enabler DP. It was fun, but I'm feeling it now.

If my teenagers' schools shut, I'm going to self-isolate on a Scottish island.

Ditto re the effect of Corona, Madame. Complete financial meltdown could result. I can't pay my mortgage or DD's school fees, for starters. And I don't qualify for a mortgage holiday, because I'm not PAYE.

FML.

NC4 I'm glad you survived the funeral. It can't have been easy.

Welcome to the madhouse, Tinkerbell.

Hugs to all with colds/coldy DC. DD's school sent home everyone with a sore throat. Needless to say, DD suddenly developed one so took herself home, along with pretty much every pupil in the school.

FML again. I will not be dry for a while now.

Oh shit, I hadn't realised that about PAYE and mortgage holidays Dion. Well that's me fooked too then. I'll join you on the Scottish island.

Actually, scrap that - can we go somewhere warmer with less midges please? Caribbean maybe? mmmm rum

I'm just in complete denial at the moment. If I stop and think I feel all peevish. I seem to have lots of little resentments at the moment. I think I need to do some deep breathing and practice gratitude.

Alternatively, I could just stop thinking.

Welcome Tinkerbell - jump on in!

Dion the government here are making all sorts of exceptions. It would be impossible to obey the 'ordres' if not. I'm not PAYE either, self employed so entitled to nothing normally. But the government have promised to help out. It may mean a loan, which is better than nothing. They have also postponed the income tax and social contributions payments.

Of course all the functionaries are paid for not working as normal.
Being self employed is pretty thankless overall!

I hope Boris will do the same if you end up with the same restrictions in the UK.

Being self employed is pretty thankless overall

You're not wrong there, Madame.

I'm thinking the 'ordres' could perhaps be re-named 'ordures' in the circs.

NC4, that's a good point. I want somewhere hot too. You book it and I will be there (we will be the only people on the flight, so can polish off all the freebies too).

I'm going to stop thinking, too.

Absolutely not AF, and I also have a migraine. The only tablets I could find expired 18 months ago. FML. I took them anyway.

Fuck am starting to genuinely wonder if I do have some weird version of corona as dh is reporting that he is finding it more difficult to breathe, and I have coughed a couple of times. But I also have the most streaming cold known to man and it started with tonsilitis-level sore throat, both of which are listed on the "unlikely to be corona" list, or at least I thought so till WHO man mentioned a sore throat. I don't really have a fever either, though dh is a bit warm.

Ah is ok, we are both feeling quite a bit better now. Has kept me AF, anyway!

I’m thinking that alcohol probably kills most germs. We’re all rubbing it on our hands. If I just keep my levels topped up, I’ll probably safe.
Totally not in the spirit of the thread but it is Friday....

Yes, if this business has confirmed anything it's that being a health freak only gets you so far.

Right, what to do with myself? Feels like it may be the last semi-normal weekend for a while but don't know if it's wise to go anywhere other than just for a walk outside, and it's uninvitingly rainy. Still have cold so swimming and park run not good ideas. Have tickets for a gig tonight and don't know what to do

It’s tricky Longest. My friend has just had to cancel his daughter’s birthday party for the same reason. I think the impact on mental health and National mood will likely be high.
I’m going to go to spin this morning and possibly for a swim after. I need to start getting back to normal.
I’m also going to attempt the supermarket.
I’d like to be AF today - back to one night a week drinking if poss. But we’ll see...

Afternoon all

Also feeling anxious about money but slightly reassured by the emails I have had from the banks saying they will be understanding re loan payments etc. If I do have DH off for any length of time am going to start ringing and asking for payment holidays. It's all I can do really. Got enough for a few months but who knows how long this will last.

Hoping schools close next week. Am going to keep ds off anyway next week and follow the government advice. Been to the garden centre this morning and bought seeds and compost so can at least get the allotment started off. Praying for decent weather to get a good start on stuff, we might be actually living off it come the summer 😂😂😂.

It all feels very surreal. It feels like whenthe twin towers came down, like the world is holding its breath waiting for what happens next.

And have a sore throat as well and just seen it is a symptom. Fuck sake. Dh not 100% either. But think he is more worried than ill.

Obviously I am starting on the gin shortly.

Frouby, I hope you’re ok and the gin kills it

I’ve had some work cancelled too, everyone I know seems to have, it’s awful.

We’ve spent all morning cleaning and tidying which was dull but the house looks nice now.

Drank wine last night and was asleep mid programme, before 10pm as a result. Woke at 5am feeling rubbish to see missed calls from ds at 4.30am, tried to call him but no reply. Finally got through to his flatmate at 9.30 who said he was fine but has toothache. He’s asked me to collect him tomorrow and bring him home to go to the dentist so I’m going to but may wait until Monday and check I can get an appointment first. He thinks he has an abscess so hope antibiotics will help.

We are considering wine and a disaster movie later. I hope everyone is ok, we are indeed in scary times. I’d very much like to fast forward and for it to all be ok.

Ventured out as far as the more interesting shops - Turkish supermarket for olives, veg and yoghurt, hot nut shop for, well, hot nuts of various types including sugared almonds and chocolate and chilli cashews, and empty sri Lankan restaurant for lunch. Does all feel a bit ominous though and i keep barking at dc to stand up and give people personal space instead of leaning on things, squeezing through impossible gaps and touching everything in sight.

Still unsure what to think about cold. Definitely don't have any of the danger symptoms but it's the worst cold i have had in ages with some weird symptoms too and am wondering if it could be how the undetected coronavirus could show up. But how can you tell how it manifests itself in milder cases, if they won't test people? I'll just have to assume it's a normal cold, based on the advice. Totally agree about wanting to fast forward.

Have decided not to go to gig. Responsible head on. Bit gutted though.

Though mme i hear France is going into full lockdown tonight? Scary stuff. I think this is going to be really tough. I am glad i have you guys to talk to

Longest yes I'm at a wedding reception in a restaurant and it has to finish at midnight at which point all bars, restos, cinémas and shops except for food, pharmacy and tabacs are shut until further notice.
Scary stuff indeed 😥

Madame 💐 - get pissed hey?! I’m glad we’ve got this lovely thread.

That does sound crazy Madame. Are people allowed to go to work or is it strictly home confinement?

Probably wise to swerve the gig Longest but I think I’d be gutted too. I do hope it’s just a horrible cold you’ve got but it sounds grim. Hope you feel better soon.

The gym was quiet this morning. They are hot on hygiene anyway, spraying down bikes with anti-bac etc so I’m not too worried (yet). I felt really good after spin and a swim. Then I got home to find the postman had delivered my divorce petition and a speed awareness ticket, so that descended pretty rapidly.
I cleaned the house to cheer myself up and have now taken to my bed with painkillers because my SI joint is out of place and I can’t get it back. At some point over the next day or two I’ll do something completely normal, like change gear when I’m driving, it’ll pop back in, and the pain will vanish instantly, but at the moment it’s killing.

I’ve ducked out of socialising tonight because I can’t really be arsed and feel quite Eeyore-ish.

Water what film are you watching? I hear 12 Monkeys is having an upsurge!

Another question: in lockdown, can you have your mates round? I don’t suppose you can, can you? Even if you’re all fit and well?

I think it depends on the model of lockdown. Italy had very much seemed to leave this to personal discretion and people were still meeting up but other countries seem to have gone full Soviet. My friend in France feels like she's under house arrest. Even the parks are shut. It's very dystopian. I'm as scared of this as getting sick tbh and the idea it'll be over by Easter seems as much propaganda as anything our government is saying. Frightening times. Not AF. Was about to say "as a result" but that suggests i would otherwise have been AF, which is probably a lie. Feeling physically much better though.

Sorry about the pain, NC4, and the rubbish post. Sending love. Xx

In more positive news, dd2 decided to teach herself maths and independently plonked herself down to do sums, so i have this home school malarkey nailed for one child at least. I won't think about dd1 just yet.

NC4 we watched the latest X Men movie having spent 30 minutes scrolling through Netflix and Amazon going no, no, crap, seen it, no, no crap etc. It was fine, distracting, not high art, obviously! Then we watched This Country, which ❤️

Hi all, back to say hello from lock down. Strange times indeed. Wondering what the hell I’m going to do with two kids Online learning (neither could follow themselves - one only six and one SEN, and neither have a computer anyway!). There is also small thing of full time job and being acting head of department as my boss is out of the country and the borders are closed. Fuck we have drunk so much wine it’s ridiculous.

It's all very strange. Very much like the days after 9/11 but with internet access.

I made the decision last week to trust the government for the sake of my mental health. It's either trust the government or drive your self mad worrying. Will follow the rules, self isolate when told and keep meds and essentials stocked up. I can't tell anyone else what to do but if enough of us have faith in the science bods advising Bojo hopefully their plans will work.

It helps I believe that the science people have our best interests at heart. And that long term the UKs plan seems to make sense. They seem to be more pragmatic I think and have accepted that there won't be a vaccine until next year so are already planning and mitigating for the winter.

I don't think that there is much else we can do really.

Was dry last night. This has made me even more determined to lose weight and be healthier. I am asthmatic which I can't change but I can make myself slimmer and healthier and consume less alcohol. Dh feels the same so hopefully we can be as fit as possible if we do get it.

We will fight on the beaches!