Wankerbastards will upset us that try, but we will still be dry. Or dryer at a push. It's a good job we are not in a rush.

[Frouby]

Thread 6 for the Tryers to be Dryers.

Support thread for reducing alcohol, stopping alcohol, monitoring alcohol. All welcome, absolutely no judgement. Whatever your aims with alcohol come and join us here. Lots of swearing but no judging or criticising.

Previous threads dotted around but can never do clicky links.

Wow thread 6!! Thanks frouby 🌟

Ah, thanks for new thread Frouby. Great title :)

I'm 99% sure I didn't get the job I went for yesterday either. FFFFS! Wankerbastards.

And of course, because I drank loads of wine last night I woke at 3am, with wine fear and a dry mouth and a headache. Drank loads of water, read a bit and left a voicemail for the dentist at 5am saying I couldn't make my appointment. I will almost certainly have to pay for it but it was worth it to go back to sleep until 9am. NFW could I have coped with the sound of the drill with a hangover. Plus it didn't seem fair to inflict my hungover mouth on the poor dentist, urgh!

Dionysa, no, I've never had javelin arse! Thank fuck, it sounds horrendous!

NC4, glad you caught your plane, have a great holiday, come and tell us about bits of it if you have time so we can enjoy it vicariously :)

I was sorely tempted to have a bacon sandwich this morning especially as there was white bread, bought yesterday for dd. White bread is my nemesis, I generally can't have it in the house or I will just eat it and eat it. Anyway, I resisted and had bacon and an egg instead which is fine on my Blood Sugar Diet. And I've just had a salad with lettuce, tomatoes, red pepper, hard boiled egg, a few slices of chorizo and some jalapenos. It was lovely. I've kept telling myself today "self compassion, self love" as really, drinking last night was self harm (as we all know) so it would have been stupid to have broken my diet as WELL as my AF run.

Still, I've still been AF on 22 days out of the last 25 so I'm not doing too badly, especially compared to April when I only had 8 AF days all month.

I'm not sure why I'm not getting jobs, I usually have a fairly good success rate. At least I can 100% say I haven't messed up any of the interviews because I was hungover or knackered, I really did my best on all of them. But it's such a time investment: preparation (usually 3 or 4 hours) plus getting there, being 'on' and selling yourself. And then mostly you get a one line "it's a no I'm afraid, they're back to the drawing board" (this was the comment from the 3 interview one - I suspect there are internal politics going on there so it may well not be anything to do with me but still, it was a colossal waste of my time). I am really experienced, personable (IMO!), hard working and have been told I have a great CV so it's just frustrating. I am usually cheerful and quite resilient but I think this one in particular just got to me.

Never mind, it's a lovely day, I've tidied up, done loads of washing, made dh's lunch for tomorrow and generally messed about online.

We are going out tomorrow night and Saturday night so I won't be AF on either day but I will be tonight.

doctordread I'm glad we're helping you not disappear into a vat of wine!

Flossie I love Dominos pizza, definitely not allowed on my BSD but I had one last Saturday!

longest thanks for your kind comments, I think you're right, some of it is this economy. People are thinking they can mess candidates around though and it's really pissing me off.

One company (massive organisation) called me for interview at VERY short notice, 2 hours in fact and I was there 2.5 hours in total. The interview was based on slightly less than I usually am paid but I liked the sound of the company so agreed to go. I met 2 people and a director. The next day they came back and said oh now we don't want to pay as much, will she do it for less money and a longer time? Agent said no, she won't (he was right, I wouldn't) and they said "she's a No in that case." - outrageous! They're still advertising it a week later though so ha ha ha. And I didn't like the woman, thought she was a bit of a nightmare so maybe it was a lucky escape.

As soon as I saw the title knew it was you lot. Ha. Half a bottle last night so not too bad. Going for a week like that then reduce then week off while away hiking. Wish me luck. I'm going in. Dr what you said 're when nothing else works. Totally with you there. X

Thanks Frouby for the new thread. Just waving to y'all for now so I don't lose you. Am off work for a week too, woo. Heading to seaside on Saturday

Marking place.
Happy holidays NC4 and sorry about job water.

I'm af for 4 days but eaten my weight in chocolate.

Good evening. How does anyone manage to moderate their drinking? I knew I would have a glass or two of wine last night but I ended up having more and then waking up early and feeling a bit crap all day. Not terrible just not great. Definitely AF today. I’m better when I’m calorie counting - that keeps the wine levels down (either that or I drink the whole bottle and eat only Skips!).

Evening all

AF for me tonight, just enjoying a Becks Blue after kayaking. Ds did so well, they did some slalom and he can now make it go forwards, turn it around and steer. Super proud of him, he was in for 90 minutes and still didn't want to get out.

The club is so friendly as well, everyone keeps an eye on us newbies, shows us where things are, tells us how to do stuff and asks ds how he's finding it. And the instructors are brilliant. It costs £100 a year for a family of 5 to join. They can do 3 1.5 hour sessions in 'paddleclub' for that a week, including all the equipment hire. Am going to get dd doing it after her mocks as well.

Ds will be knackered tomorrow bless him, his little hands were cramped up he'd hung onto his oar that long lol.

Thanks for the new thread Frouby and as usual a great title! I'm so pleased your DS is enjoying the kayaking so much. It looks great fun and a very reasonable cost too.
Half a bottle of red this evening after 3 nights AF. Going out tomorrow and driving so enjoyed the pizza and wine tonight. I appreciate the wine much more after a few evenings off.

It looks ace Frouby!

Bigbus I think we all find moderating hard because the willpower caves in after the first glass, but Becks blue and nanny state helps. Dion has some magic herbs to recommend that actually have scientific evidence behind them. Simple things like starting later and using a measured glass. Some people have switched from their favourite tipple to gin or beer.

I am so tired. Work is intense at the mo, but in a good way I guess. Thursdays are always a logistical juggle but more so today because after school club had s change of venue. Think I may slope off to bed. AF. Am jealous of some friends who invited me for a spontaneous drink as DH is out and I have no babysitter, but tbh I am so tired I am probably better off with bed.

Cottonsock, well done on 4 days AF

Bigbus, wish I knew the answer... I seem to be ok at being AF, but not so good at moderating

Frouby, that looks brilliant, glad your ds enjoyed it

MdmeForest, that’s moderating, I’m envious 🙂

Longest, well done on AF.

I can moderate on gin. And keep to 3 glasses of wine, otherwise I feel drunk, then hungover.

Beer I am hopeless at moderating. Could happily have 5 or 6 bottles or 4 or 5 cans. So I avoid completely unless I am planning on having a good drink.

Bigbus, mostly I don't buy any.
Don't take my purse out when I collect dd from nursery (next to corner shop).
Get into pjs in the evening .
Ration myself to mini bottles.
When I'm out for a meal I'll buy one glass and a big soft drink. Usually this distracts me from another.
I tend not to go out evenings much as I have small kids. And my 'going for a drink' social life is pretty much vanished.

A friend asked me this week so I told her I'm.not drinking. We are having a meal instead.

If I feel really like I might fail out, I've offered to drive.

Might all seem drastic, but my mental health was really suffering.

Ouch, I seem to have pulled a muscle in my shoulder. Just randomly happened in the middle of the night but is v sore.

Other than that a nice day. Took dd2 to forest school and did a bit of work from the café there, which was lovely. Had lunch with friends. Took both dds to play street after school and dd2 learned to ride her bike for the first time. Ready to send them to bed now though as they're watching very annoying telly and my shoulder is making me grumpy. Could do with packing and finishing off more work but not sure how I am going to manage it really. Packing may have to wait till tomorrow. We are only going in the car so I can bundle everything in.

Our holiday has been nice so far but DS1 has just slipped and cracked his head open on the tiled floor. He’s insistent he doesn’t need hospital but I’m not so sure.

Oh no NC4! I hope he's ok x

Bloody Hell. So much happens when I go away for a night.

Love the thread title, Frouby. It had to have wankerbastards in it.

Went out with DP last night. He said we shouldn't drink too much as we both had to work today. You can guess how that one ended.

I am consoling myself with gin, as DD is being a cowbag. Flossie, your post about DD1 rang so true...

Will catch up properly, but I did read the posts by Longest and Doctor on the other thread. Longest, I so feel for you. And I completely get it. If my delectable DP would just cave in and say: "Ok, Dion, I love you and that's that", I would probably never drink again. It's the uncertainty, on top of the shitting divorce and problems with DC that make me press the 'fuck it' button.

NC4, I am willing your holiday to go well in the end. And yours, Flossie.

Will catch up properly later. DD wanting me to talk to her, having told me she's never speaking to me again.

Just posted, and seen yours, NC4. Oh my God. I hope he's ok. xx

Oh no NC, hope he's OK? Is your apartment nice?

Not dry tonight because friday but not horrendous either. Currently half way down my 2nd g and t. Just ordered some food so not even sure I will get a 3rd in.

Am knackered, haven't stopped all bloody week. Looking forward to a 3 day weekend and then half term next week. House has been very neglected because of ponies and allotment and kayaking with ds but hoping to get a good fettle in this weekend.

Dh muttering about having a bbq tomorrow. Fuck sake. I like a bbq but not feeling very social, I iust want a quiet, peaceful weekend if I am honest. The weather is a bit iffy so have said we decide tomorrow afternoon which will hopefully mean everyone is busy so we don't have to have visitors 😂😂😂.

Forest school cafe.

How is he now NC4? Heads do bleed a lot and give nasty bumps but when I have seen Dr about any bump they have always said just to keep an eye, even when Dd1 was seeing double they said bring her back if she is sick more than twice or can't be roused.

Kids keep shrieking about stupid things they want to pack and can't find "my lol sleep mask and the pencil with a butterfly rubber on the end". Dashing round the house looking for this junk with stupid shoulder is making me feel a bit sick.

There's a job going at work that I am wondering about applying for. Had basically ruled out applying for promotion just yet but it is kind of a dream job as head of my old team. Stand a very low chance of actually getting it but DH thinks I should give it a whirl. Would kind of mean spending my holiday writing an application though which is a bit dull. Will sleep on it.

Dion, thank you my love! Are you any closer to having a heart to heart with DP?

I hope you have made up with Dd.