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Where is Greta and Just Stop Oil when half of Europe is burring?

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localnotail · Yesterday 20:56

Just that, really? Surely this would be the the right opportunity to actively campaign for something to be done about the climate change/ convert all non-believers? Where are these protesters, especially Saint Greta? Why they all gone quiet?

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thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:22

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I read that Greta has selective mutism and only really speaks much when she feels it matters? In that case, it makes sense that she speaks on what she is currently 'feeling' in terms of issues. And face it, there's a lot of issues in the world that need attention!

I can totally understand how this works as I have a child with selective mutism. She can't speak in some situations but if she is worried about her dog, she'll be talking away to the vet about what is going on for her dog because it really matters to her.

I think we need to give Greta credit for the awareness she has raised. It can't have been easy for her. If she needed a break, to change focus, or has grown up to see how many issues there are in the world that need attention that are pulling her in different directions, then that's how it is. She's a human being, who is still very young, who will continue to grow and develop along her own lines and doesn't owe us a thing.

localnotail · Yesterday 22:22

DeterminedRat · Yesterday 22:19

In cahoots lmao, why you would think someone would think you are relevant enough to know the President of the US 🤣 💀

Nah mate, I just meant that some people share the same shitty opinions as Andrew Tate and Trump.

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I think you secretly love Andrew Tate and Trump since you have a severe mentionitis

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localnotail · Yesterday 22:23

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:22

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I read that Greta has selective mutism and only really speaks much when she feels it matters? In that case, it makes sense that she speaks on what she is currently 'feeling' in terms of issues. And face it, there's a lot of issues in the world that need attention!

I can totally understand how this works as I have a child with selective mutism. She can't speak in some situations but if she is worried about her dog, she'll be talking away to the vet about what is going on for her dog because it really matters to her.

I think we need to give Greta credit for the awareness she has raised. It can't have been easy for her. If she needed a break, to change focus, or has grown up to see how many issues there are in the world that need attention that are pulling her in different directions, then that's how it is. She's a human being, who is still very young, who will continue to grow and develop along her own lines and doesn't owe us a thing.

I do give her a lot of credit for what she done in the past and I used to really admire her.

Not anymore, though.

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crackofdoom · Yesterday 22:23

Greedybilly · Yesterday 22:14

@Snokenvery well said. The amount of hate that poor women got/gets is shocking.
I guess lots of people hated the suffragettes in their time - saw them as woke/loony left.

Yeah, they definitely did. Men used to release rats into suffragette meetings in order to disrupt them. (And lots of other stuff of course).

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:24

localnotail · Yesterday 22:23

I do give her a lot of credit for what she done in the past and I used to really admire her.

Not anymore, though.

I'm sure she doesn't need your approval.

localnotail · Yesterday 22:24

crackofdoom · Yesterday 22:23

Yeah, they definitely did. Men used to release rats into suffragette meetings in order to disrupt them. (And lots of other stuff of course).

Well this is gone weird.

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InpraiseofWomenhelpingWomen · Yesterday 22:25

localnotail · Yesterday 21:55

Would be good if we could get away from getting personal and insulting. No, I'm not fixating on Greta. No, she is not my employee. No, I'm not a TRA (wtf again).

OP This made me laugh, when you wrote “ . . . getting away from being personal . . .”, after starting a post about a specific person!

Anyway, Greta has been busy risking her life trying to stop genocide. The abuse she suffered in an Israeli prison has not been widely detailed. She has explained more eloquently than I can that her climate campaigning is part of her commitment to human beings, as is trying to stop the genocide. Of course the unfathomable amounts of ordinance used in Gaza has a significant effect on climate, as does the widespread uprooting of Olive trees in the West Bank.

Greta explains it better than I ever could in this video short:

https://youtube.com/shorts/0hAS6hPvNfU?is=RkEkJl6UQxXbZGmI

Before you continue to YouTube

https://youtube.com/shorts/0hAS6hPvNfU?is=RkEkJl6UQxXbZGmI

localnotail · Yesterday 22:25

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:24

I'm sure she doesn't need your approval.

So many people on here are saying Greta is above criticism because she is well known and I'm not. Always found this viewpoint odd.

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VocodersAreShite · Yesterday 22:26

"Licensable picture: Climate Campaigners Protest Over Rosebank Oil Field | Reuters Connect" https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/climate-campaigners-protest-over-rosebank-oil-field/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjY6bmV3c21sX01UMVpVTUEwMDBQUElCVEw

You could have joined this protest just this week OP. If you missed it, please start your own Summer uprising. 💪🏻

localnotail · Yesterday 22:28

InpraiseofWomenhelpingWomen · Yesterday 22:25

OP This made me laugh, when you wrote “ . . . getting away from being personal . . .”, after starting a post about a specific person!

Anyway, Greta has been busy risking her life trying to stop genocide. The abuse she suffered in an Israeli prison has not been widely detailed. She has explained more eloquently than I can that her climate campaigning is part of her commitment to human beings, as is trying to stop the genocide. Of course the unfathomable amounts of ordinance used in Gaza has a significant effect on climate, as does the widespread uprooting of Olive trees in the West Bank.

Greta explains it better than I ever could in this video short:

https://youtube.com/shorts/0hAS6hPvNfU?is=RkEkJl6UQxXbZGmI

Climate change is more important than 70 year old conflict that is unlikely to be resolved any time soon (and Greta is in no position to have any impact on it).

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backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 22:28

I doubt standing around going “I told you so” would help

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:30

localnotail · Yesterday 22:25

So many people on here are saying Greta is above criticism because she is well known and I'm not. Always found this viewpoint odd.

No-one is above criticism. I just find it hard to criticise a school girl (which she was at the time) who is passionate about a cause like climate. She was just a child. It also makes sense to me that a teenager grows and develops in different directions, even changing focus. That seems normal to me, so nothing to criticise.

localnotail · Yesterday 22:30

backformoreofthesame · Yesterday 22:28

I doubt standing around going “I told you so” would help

Why not? Over the years, I had many people telling me "its not a climate change, its just weather" - guess what I'm telling them now? It does work.

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localnotail · Yesterday 22:31

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:30

No-one is above criticism. I just find it hard to criticise a school girl (which she was at the time) who is passionate about a cause like climate. She was just a child. It also makes sense to me that a teenager grows and develops in different directions, even changing focus. That seems normal to me, so nothing to criticise.

Well maybe you are right. But I wish she stayed focused on the issue she started with. She was great at it and she had a voice that people listened to.

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thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:31

localnotail · Yesterday 22:28

Climate change is more important than 70 year old conflict that is unlikely to be resolved any time soon (and Greta is in no position to have any impact on it).

Remember what it was like to be young and feel like you could actually make a difference in the world? Maybe some retain that but I haven't. I just focus on making small micro differences in the lives of people I cross paths with.

Chocobuttons2 · Yesterday 22:32

Her and her friends chucked their laptop and phones into the ocean. I don’t think she’s bothered about the environment anymore.

localnotail · Yesterday 22:32

Chocobuttons2 · Yesterday 22:32

Her and her friends chucked their laptop and phones into the ocean. I don’t think she’s bothered about the environment anymore.

Wait what?

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thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:33

localnotail · Yesterday 22:31

Well maybe you are right. But I wish she stayed focused on the issue she started with. She was great at it and she had a voice that people listened to.

Would you want your own 16 year old to be stuck on the thing they were focused on at 16 for the rest of their lives? Or would you expect to see them grow, develop and broaden their horizons?

localnotail · Yesterday 22:35

thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:33

Would you want your own 16 year old to be stuck on the thing they were focused on at 16 for the rest of their lives? Or would you expect to see them grow, develop and broaden their horizons?

I teach my DC about integrity, consistency and standing by what they believe in. So, for Greta, climate change was just a "phase"? I guess it makes sense.

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thereisnomeaning · Yesterday 22:38

localnotail · Yesterday 22:35

I teach my DC about integrity, consistency and standing by what they believe in. So, for Greta, climate change was just a "phase"? I guess it makes sense.

Integrity can also mean changing your mind and course when presented with new information. Consistency can mean sticking to values, even if they change. I'm sure Greta cares about the environment, she's just also taken on other issues as well. I've known people who have taken up causes and given them so much, they've burned out and started to do something else. It doesn't detract from what they did at the time. Teenagers do go through phases, yes. It's normal.

VocodersAreShite · Yesterday 22:41

"Just Stop Oil – Just Stop Oil" https://juststopoil.org

Anyone else interested in campaigning, you could support the take back power initiative.

As to the background of why Just Stop Oil stopped protesting last year the pp who talked of criminalisation making it harder to protest is right.
"Just Stop Oil to ‘hang up the hi-vis’ after three years of climate action | Just Stop Oil | The Guardian" www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/27/just-stop-oil-hangs-up-the-hi-vis-after-three-years-of-climate-action

InpraiseofWomenhelpingWomen · Yesterday 22:45

localnotail · Yesterday 22:32

Wait what?

When their ships were illegally boarded they had to try and protect themselves by destroying any data that could be used to coerce/intimidate/threaten them.

You do know that Greta was kidnapped in international waters, don’t you? Of course you do!

VocodersAreShite · Yesterday 23:02

"Event List" https://greenwire.greenpeace.org.uk/s/event/acem__Event__c/Default?language=en_GB&sort=Asc

You could also sign up for a Welcome Call (Greenpeace have local events organised via Greenwire)

And anyone seriously interested in debate might find this interesting to listen to:
"The Climate Question - Do climate protests ever work? - BBC Sounds" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct99hs

Greta inspired one of my kids to protest in Germany. Lots of schoolchildren attended.
Iirc DD ended up in a sleeping bag overnight in a car park 😬 Did it achieve much? It made headlines.
But until governments cop on (see what I did there?) with binding agreements and pledges they stick to, we are cooked.

Greenwire

https://greenwire.greenpeace.org.uk/s/event/acem__Event__c/Default?language=en_GB&sort=Asc

Chocobuttons2 · Yesterday 23:06

localnotail · Yesterday 22:32

Wait what?

Yeah it was filmed. When her flotilla got caught the first time, they chucked all their devices into the sea.

MenArePigs · Yesterday 23:22

Shame on many of you, having a go at a young woman who has been roundly abused by the media but who has still been brave enough to stick up for her convictions …. what have any of you done recently?