Where is Greta and Just Stop Oil when half of Europe is burring?

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Just that, really? Surely this would be the the right opportunity to actively campaign for something to be done about the climate change/ convert all non-believers? Where are these protesters, especially Saint Greta? Why they all gone quiet?

She has always been ridiculous or a media darling. Not a real influence on anything.

She’s 23. And you’re a deeply unpleasant person, telling someone who has done a lot more in her short life than I suspect you have, what to do.

Why don’t you do something more constructive and positive than shitposting about a young woman?

TRA??? Are you fucking joking?

I can google Greta - yes, she is a Pally supporter who refused to watch a documentary about 7th october filmed by Hamas themselves. Gets arrested a lot for taking part in various protests. But not the climate change ones.

Tell me please what exactly does she do? She had a potential for becoming a voice of reason but threw it all away and joined an anarchist protests mob.

I used to fully support her.

As for being and "unpleasant person" - well, you are equally unpleasant for putting a label on someone you never met.

I think when the world is burning you don't really need to raise awareness do you, the great big fires do that for you.

It's a pity so many people spent their time mocking Greta and Just Stop Oil instead of listening to what they had to say, perhaps the current predicament wouldn't be quite as bad as it is.

Yes, advertising is very much targeted. Sites such as Facebook will show you stuff based on what you have searched for, and what your computer hears you talking about. (Yes, I'm certain that this is true.) While the Guardian and others are not personally tailoring their content to you, other websites are showing you their articles which they think you might "like".

More broadly, news outlets do tailor their content to what they believe the general public wants to hear.

As for dear Greta: I'm deeply cynical about her. I noticed that she went very silent in 2020, when the world was panicking about Covid: climate change had been displaced from "the fear of the day". She didn't even pop up like a jack-in-the-box to say "you see, it's not so bad when you can't fly, is it?" With my cynical head on, I suspect that there is an unseen Humphrey Appleby-like figure who tells her what to say, and when to say it, who right now is saying "it's not really the time to say anything, Greta". Ditto Phoebe Plummer (who threw the soup over the Sunflowers painting).

I was amused by a Dead Ringers sketch some years ago, when Jeremy Corbyn resigned, and decided to take a "period of reflection":
Corbyn's voicemail: "Please leave a message after the period of reflection".
Great: "Mr Corrrrbyn, it's Greta. For years, I have been spreading despair among young people, but you managed to spread despair among millions, in one night! How do you do it, Mr Corrrrbyn? Will you teach me?"

I think its a good time to come back and tell people "I told you so". I still have a ridiculous amount of comments (a lot coming from the US) that this is "just a weather" and its "normal". Its hard to get a message across with some of the most vocal protesters literally going quiet.

She's a 23 year old, who has done loads to raise awareness of important issues, but that's what she does. Raise awareness. Other voices need to emerge to take the discussions forward. We can't leave it all to a kid, who has already done loads, but is still finding her way in the world . . .

She was also cruelly abused by Israli forces, between that and the shit she gets online then tbh if it was me I would take some time to heal and regroup, especially as she is ND.

The purpose of people like Greta (and there are many) is to push the issue into the spotlight so others can join and take action. Its not up to her to continue the work solo for the rest of her life.

“Pally supporter”? Jesus wept.

I did google her a few times but all I get is non-climate related protests and Palestine. I can imagine I get tailored content but Google?... Also, you can click on a subject on Guardian, for example, and you get all their articles on it. Which I regularly do.

What were they for then ?

Oh come on, she was a teenager. Teenagers can change their focus. She's still focusing on world issues anyway. Last I saw she had been busy sailing with aid for Gaza but getting intercepted, or something (didn't really read the articles, just saw the headlines, so sorry if details wrong). Anyway, she's not doing nothing. However, if she wants to change her course in life, she's young. It's her time to be allowed to do that.

I would imagine general anti-establishment anarchy stuff.

Shes not Batman you know

lol

Wow I never watched dead ringers but this is so true !

Erm the protesters refer to it like that? Also wear watermelons and keffiyeh. Like its some sort of a fashion challenge.

I’m convinced climate change was Gretas hyper fixation. Now she’s moved on.

I think if we thought about it, a lot of things that have been achieved in science, math, activism etc are likely the result of a ND persons obsession.

What we get to see reported though is what the media choose to report.

The Gulf of Hormuz is currently if not closed not exactly open

20% of global oil production passes through it - and the Ukranians have been making a right mess of Russian Refineries in the last few months.

Thats before you take into account the helium - a by product of gas extraction and 34% of globally traded Urea and 23% of ammonia both used in fertilizer production that passes through it.

But no mention of the economic impacts - why?

Perhaps its all to frightening for those in power.

I think it was actually on Radio 4, on one of their equivalents of Dead Ringers.

Just Stop Oil are probably busy protesting outside a Crisp ‘n’ Dry factory.

Yes, I saw her being arrested a week or so ago. People scoff but at least she has the courage of her convictions.

Probably demonstrating on support of Palestine.

Those denialists are not those who would be listening to Greta. “Those” kinds of people need people within their own communities, people they trust and resonate with, to lead by example and say yo - this is climate change and this is what we need to do to protect our livelihoods and stop it from happening. But funnily enough, you don’t see Nige and his merry men or equivalents either side of the pond taking on that role… go figure 🤷‍♀️