Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

[DuncinToffee]

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I agree with this. I remember going to Rape Crisis when processing the trauma of my childhood CSA. I really needed to speak to a biological woman at that time.

I’ve never been bothered about toilets, or changing rooms for that matter.

I have done the same at gigs in the past.

I did it at Cardiff Arms Park back in the day

I’ve done in the Principality.

What happens if not enough people vote though? Do you keep the incumbent in post while you have another election, and another, and another, until enough people turn out to vote? Or do you leave the post empty?
How would you compel people to vote or punish non-voters?

At Cabaret at the KitKat Club the toilets are labelled ‘cubicles’ and ‘urinals’.

And that is not rock bottom apathy. 15% turnout, here.

Reform Wins Scarborough Town Council By-Election With One Vote Majority - This is the Coast https://share.google/QQt2JIU9Ul7teVSaZ

Yay for Bev Craig https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-mayoral-election-results-live-34379494#entry3971959

Good news!

Deleted it as it's not the final result, just the Manchester one.

Reform stuffed in Manchester.

Lovely, lovely stuff.

Good news. I’m waiting for the full results - I’ve seen the Manchester one.

Great news.

The full results have been announced.

Great news.

I've just watched the clip - did the returning officer just pronounce Sian as 'Si-ann'??

The final result
After both rounds of voting:
Sian Astley, Reform UK - 157,178
Bev Craig, Labour and Co-operative Party - 309,525

66.3%

I wanted to see the breakdown of first preferences.

🚨 NEW: The first preference votes in the Greater Manchester Mayoral election

🔴 LAB: 251,449 (-169,300) - 45.0%
➡️ RFM: 111,928 (+62,396) - 20.0%
🟢 GRN: 64,968 (+19,063) - 11.6%
🟣 RES: 46,289 (NEW) - 8.3%
🔵 CON: 41,021 (-27,925) - 7.3%
🔶 LD: 14,702 (-13,493) - 2.6%
⚪ IND: 2,969 (-47,335) - 0.5%

25.14% turnout

After second preferences

🔴 LAB: 309,525 - 66.3%
➡️ RFM: 157,178 - 33.7%

I am off on my holiday tomorrow so won't be posting much for a while, look after the thread.

I think it goes to show reform’s popularity is massively overstated.

Have a wonderful time. We’ll try not to let chaos reign while you’re away.

Restore beat the Tories, even combined with Reform, they were far behind Labour

I’m still horrified at the turn out. 25%!

Have a wonderful holiday @DuncinToffee. We’re going to need a new thread before you come back.

except that will feed the narrative that somehow the establishment are conspiring to exclude them.

I did suggest some ideas upthread.

Enjoy your holiday @DuncinToffee. I don't often reply in message to all posters news, but hoping everyone and everyone they love is well and doing well.

I looked at comments on a post on Facebook. Lots of ‘why was there a second count?’ From people who don’t understand the two round system. Lots of ‘Labour changed the system weeks ago so they could win’ - a) untrue, they changed it back to this a while ago and b) Labour would have som under FPTP anyway and some ‘where were the boxes kept overnight? No 10 North?’ From people who can’t accept. reform loss at all.
Plus comments that because Bev has short hair they can ‘see where this is going’. Appalling all round really.

Have a good hols @DuncinToffee