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Terrified to go into my own garden..

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:33

I just want to preface this by saying that I’ve name changed and MNHQ will be able to verify that I’ve been on here a long while. Just pointing this out, as I’ll inevitably get troll hunted on this one as it makes very little sense! I assure you I have not left anything out whatsoever and I’m sorry it’s such a long post.

I’m a widowed parent of one 11yr old DD. I have a small-ish dog who thankfully doesn’t bark much (which is relevant to this situation).

2 years ago, my usually always very friendly & chatty next door neighbour, randomly blocked me from texting her - which I rarely ever did anyway tbh, only ever if there was a parcel here for her etc. The last time I’d spoken to her, everything had been great. I was utterly mystified but figured it’d be sorted eventually and I’d ask her when I saw her next. With it being winter I didn’t see her for a while and when I did, I was ignored. Really odd but ok…. Maybe I or DD had made some noise? Although she has always assured me vehemently that she can’t hear anything from our side but even so, I don’t allow DD to make noise for my own sake as well as that of others!

Last summer, there were a few occasions when I was in my back garden (6ft fence with vertical planks with small gaps in between) and neighbour’s Dad who was there, shouted over at me. Once when I was taking a photo of a random plant which had popped up so I could identify it, he shouts “Come round if you want to take photos, you fat fuck!” Now, I should’ve asked WTF he was talking about and corrected him but I was too stunned to speak! Another time I got called a “sad pathetic loser” when I was cutting sweet pea flowers off my trellis on our adjoining fence. Followed by him saying to his daughter “Don’t worry she’s obviously got no life” Again, I hugely regret not saying something back and asking what on earth I’m meant to have said or done wrong. But having escaped extremely violent DV, I just don’t have the strength to confront any male and probably never will. It’s fight or flight and I flee. Until today, that is.

Around the end of last year, the neighbour got a dog of their own and despite my calling my dog in every single time, theirs still barks loudly every single time he sees my dog through the fence. I’ve tried putting tarpaulin up on the adjoining fence to prevent their dog seeing mine but nope, it still keeps happening. Thankfully my dog doesn’t usually bark back and if he does, it’s one singular woof to show his displeasure, then he comes in!
About 2 months ago, I wrote neighbour herself a letter (as she just blanks me when I try speaking to her face to face) explaining that I’ve absolutely zero clue what I’ve done to upset her, apologised if it’s noise (though I really don’t think it is, as DD & I are quiet people and when DD is at school, I’m often asleep or at hospital) and explaining that I only have about 12-14 months left to live due to an autoimmune disorder which she actually knows I have, that I want to spend what time I have left with my child in peace and just want to be left alone and politely requested that they stop slamming their front door as it was making us both jump a mile and was affecting DD at school when it happens during the night. I was very polite and promised to do what I can on my part to try and mitigate the situation with her dog seeing mine through the fence (which I have done, I put tarpaulin up but clearly I need to add more!)

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and now her Dad is seemingly living there and is making mine & my daughter’s lives a living hell.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I open one of my French doors and either let my dog out for a wee or I dare to step out into my own garden, not only does their dog bark like mad at mine (who now just ignores theirs as he’s used to it!) I get “Oh for fuck’s sake!” or her little boy goes running inside shouting “Mum, Granddad, she’s in her garden again!!!” followed by “Oh for fuck’s sake! Fucking typical!” It’s got to the point where I’m genuinely anxious to go into my own garden and I’m not exaggerating and I’m a keen gardener! I can’t even nip to my greenhouse to get some lettuce without a “Oh for fuck’s sake, fat fuck is out again!” 😳
Last week, I had to mow the lawn as it was the first day I’d had in weeks where I was well enough to do it and they were having a BBQ (I don’t think there were any guests but I decided to be as quick as possible anyway) and well, he was fuming and they went storming inside, slamming the door. I don’t know what was said as I had the mower on but heard door slam. That one was probably my fault for mowing whilst they were having a BBQ but if I’d waited until the next time I was well enough, the grass would’ve been too long to mow!

Another thing which I’ve been ignoring in the hope that it naturally settles (and to avoid confrontation with him), is the fact that their dog barks the ENTIRE TIME he is left in the house alone. Barks loudly and howls. So bad that me making a phone call is nigh on impossible. It’s often overnight also, so that is hell for DD especially. This happened today and I’ve taken to recording clips of it just in case it’s needed in future. When it finally stopped, presumably as he came home, the first thing I did, was quietly let DDog out as I’d kept him in during the barking due to the noise coming from their side. Well, this was a mistake as their dog saw mine and erupted - as per usual! Mine didn’t bark back at all but DD grabbed the treat tub and told him to come in for obvious reasons and neighbour’s Dad shouts “FUCKING TWATS!!!!!” over the fence. Now I have never, ever responded to ANY of it but having just endured hours upon hours of their Alsation barking and howling I snapped and said, calmly, “Your dog has been barking all day!!!” to which he shouts “Because of you! YOU’RE CAUSING IT!!!” “Every fucking day you’re in your garden” I reply “And?!” At which point he slams their door and my DD bursts into tears and call me pathetic but so did I. I’m at my wits end. This is my home. My DD’s home and this is almost certainly the last summer of my life. My only hobby is quietly (& I do mean quietly) pottering around in my garden deadheading flowers or pruning roses etc.

  • I don’t ever have visitors besides my 82yr old mother (she’s my only remaining family besides DD) and what friends do bother with me, I just have catch up coffees with in Costa!
  • I don’t play music in my home or my garden. If I listen to a podcast or LBC, it’s on earphones.
  • My dog rarely barks and if he does, it’s only a tiny bit if he is barked at! He did once bark at an Owl ornament I bought but in his defence, it did blink at night time!!
  • I do not speak on the phone in the garden as everyone around me would hear and despite this massive long post, I am quite a quiet person usually!
  • DD is rarely in the garden (more’s the pity!) she prefers gaming! She used to play out front on her scooter with some kids from up the street but she’s been too frightened to, since neighbour’s Dad aggressively told her to “Piss off” once about a year ago when he’d arrived about 5 mins after neighbour had left the house and so, being 9, she told him. Who tells a 9yr old to piss off?

I have reported today’s incident to non-emergency police. However a. Officer won’t be free to talk to me until the end of next week which I’m sad about tbh. I could’ve used the advice as right now, I’m terrified to even let my dog out for a wee, let alone step into my garden.
Again, having escaped extreme DV, it’s very difficult for me to not default to flight mode. I’m still shaking and this happened 2 hours ago. Pathetic, I know. I already struggle with anxiety.

Sorry this was so long but I didn’t want to miss anything out and have to correct people or be accused of drip feeding!

There’s nothing I can do, is there?

OP posts:
Dymaxion · Today 22:25

I do wonder if another neighbour has complained about the dog barking and they have put two and two together and made five ? Do you know any of the other neighbours @TotallyTangerineGeum ?

ThisWiseRobin · Today 22:31

MyKindHiker · Today 16:44

There must be some service where you can rent a really big buff facially tattooed 'boyfriend' (or girlfriend!) to hang around and give them a bit of taste of their own medicine? Verbally abusing them right back?! They are bullies and being horrible because you're a woman on her own.

I do half joke but only half. It fee;s a bit like you need a village right now, loads of witnesses and people around on your team who can call their behaviour for what it is

Totally what I was thinking. Do you know any massive blokes, preferably who ride motorbikes to pay him a visit. If you have a time limit would it really matter if you went next door and twatted him on the head with a rubber hose or anything.

Kickinthenostalgia · Today 22:33

Defo harassment, your entitled to go into your garden, thier dog barking is entirely thier problem not yours. I’d stand up tall and probably go in the garden even if I didn’t need to just to be a petty prick. It doesn’t matter if you’ve done something wrong, your still entitled to enjoy your garden.
although we get on fairly well with our neighbours, there dogs are a pain in the arse. All I have to do is open the back door and one of them starts barking, hanging washing in the line, barking, walking to the shed barking. Sometimes for good measure I’ll bang on the fence to give it something to bark at. My recently deceased dog used to bark back sometimes but the puppy thankfully doesn’t really care at the moment. We were playing in the garden earlier this evening and both of next doors dogs started barking, they tell them off but it’s annoying all the same, not a peep or molecule of interest from the puppy.

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PeachySmile2 · Today 22:38

I am so upset I don’t live closer (Essex) as I would LOVE to shout right up in his face and call him a fat fuck on your behalf!!! I really do hope the girls near you do rally around and help you to sort this out. What an absolute bully!!!! So sorry you’ve been made to feel like a prisoner in your own home - it’s unacceptable xxx

WiddlinDiddlin · Today 22:38

They sound horrible.

Definitely get a Ring/Blink cam to record what happens when you go out back.

Wear headphones so you can ignore them.

Invite anyone you can to come witness it - I highly recommend asking anyone like police, to park further away and walk up, ideally non-uniform, so you can just go out back as if you've got a normal guest and next door won't know its a police officer.

I've had grief from neighbours in the past, it is horribly stressful!

Dymaxion · Today 22:40

Is your neighbour a local ? as in were they born and badly brought up there ? Went to school there ?

TooHotToBoogie · Today 22:58

Diamondwindow · Today 20:38

Omg I am
so sorry this is happening. Get a Ring. Also get another one in case your Ring somehow gets mysteriously damaged or removed. Tapo cameras are cheap and you can put them inside the lack windows

I would take my ring doorbell camera outside with me everytime. Just turn towards them holding onto it and I bet he shuts up because he won't want it to be recorded

OneAmber · Today 23:07

How awful! I’m so sorry you’re going through this and you sound like such a lovely person!

There are some awful people in this world, but I like to think there are more kind ones.

I would definitely keep reporting it each time it happens and get evidence where you can. I know it may feel repetitive but the housing association/ police are more likely to act when they know it’s an ongoing situation.

Contacting your local MP sounds like a great idea!

There may be local charity organisations who support people who are in your situation and do some of the admin for you (e.g contacting housing/your MP) . I don’t think you want to spend the next year with this admin.

Feel free to message me if you need any support with pulling anything together or want me to do more research to see if there’s extra support available close to you.

StandUpp · Today 23:16

It is lovely that so many people have offered to come over and support you.

I have seen this happen lots on other threads.
But then it peters out.

I hope someone who lives nearby can take control and arrange a meet up.

And yes for sure about messaging a local biker group or similar. They will defo help you, any decent person would after reading your message. They don’t need to do anything physically, just a few weekends in a row so the awful neighbour can see that you have support.

Flumposie3 · Today 23:18

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 21:37

Oooh hi 👋 I bet this week has been chaos for you over that side of town!?

It certainly has. It seems that there are a few of us on here that are near you. Please message me if you want to.

Blinky21 · Today 23:18

As others have advised, put up cameras to record the abuse. Then go to the cabinet member for housing at your local authority, copy in your ward councillor. Mention your illness. I would also consider calling the police each time you are abused. I am sorry you are having to go through this. I had a friend whose life was made a misery by an obsessed neighbour who called the police on them daily for no reason. It took a while for the HA to act but they did move the problem. neighbours in the end

Summerdoll · Today 23:34

I think they assumed you were taking photos of them by the sounds of it.
They are both bullies and sound like complete idiots.
You must continue to use your garden freely and your dog too, it sounds like you will be physically safe to do this? Perhaps pop your earphones in and ignore. But definitely get that ring door bell set up. Do not allow them to bully you, you have every right to go into your own garden!

UncharteredWaters · Today 23:36

I’m so sorry! I really want to come round and sit in your garden and give him right back.

im sure some mumsnetters nearby would happily congregate.
if you’re in Scotland do shout!

ReadingSoManyThreads · Today 23:41

This sounds like anti-social behaviour which you can report to both the council and the police. Make a record of every incident, date and time. Try to get any recordings you can of him and the dog too. I think you need at least 2 weeks worth of diary entries before reporting but check with your local council. I'd ask the police to go round and have a word with the abusive bully too. His swearing is causing you and your daughter distress so I'm pretty sure that is a crime.

Whatevergoes2025 · Today 23:46

You need to set cameras up and deliberately go about your business exactly as you wish and record everything!

Honestly, they sound too stupid to be threatening. View them as comically ignorant.

Whatevergoes2025 · Today 23:53

Also, it would be good (but maybe optimistic) if the police could clear the air somehow as it really seems like there could be a misunderstanding somewhere.

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