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Terrified to go into my own garden..

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:33

I just want to preface this by saying that I’ve name changed and MNHQ will be able to verify that I’ve been on here a long while. Just pointing this out, as I’ll inevitably get troll hunted on this one as it makes very little sense! I assure you I have not left anything out whatsoever and I’m sorry it’s such a long post.

I’m a widowed parent of one 11yr old DD. I have a small-ish dog who thankfully doesn’t bark much (which is relevant to this situation).

2 years ago, my usually always very friendly & chatty next door neighbour, randomly blocked me from texting her - which I rarely ever did anyway tbh, only ever if there was a parcel here for her etc. The last time I’d spoken to her, everything had been great. I was utterly mystified but figured it’d be sorted eventually and I’d ask her when I saw her next. With it being winter I didn’t see her for a while and when I did, I was ignored. Really odd but ok…. Maybe I or DD had made some noise? Although she has always assured me vehemently that she can’t hear anything from our side but even so, I don’t allow DD to make noise for my own sake as well as that of others!

Last summer, there were a few occasions when I was in my back garden (6ft fence with vertical planks with small gaps in between) and neighbour’s Dad who was there, shouted over at me. Once when I was taking a photo of a random plant which had popped up so I could identify it, he shouts “Come round if you want to take photos, you fat fuck!” Now, I should’ve asked WTF he was talking about and corrected him but I was too stunned to speak! Another time I got called a “sad pathetic loser” when I was cutting sweet pea flowers off my trellis on our adjoining fence. Followed by him saying to his daughter “Don’t worry she’s obviously got no life” Again, I hugely regret not saying something back and asking what on earth I’m meant to have said or done wrong. But having escaped extremely violent DV, I just don’t have the strength to confront any male and probably never will. It’s fight or flight and I flee. Until today, that is.

Around the end of last year, the neighbour got a dog of their own and despite my calling my dog in every single time, theirs still barks loudly every single time he sees my dog through the fence. I’ve tried putting tarpaulin up on the adjoining fence to prevent their dog seeing mine but nope, it still keeps happening. Thankfully my dog doesn’t usually bark back and if he does, it’s one singular woof to show his displeasure, then he comes in!
About 2 months ago, I wrote neighbour herself a letter (as she just blanks me when I try speaking to her face to face) explaining that I’ve absolutely zero clue what I’ve done to upset her, apologised if it’s noise (though I really don’t think it is, as DD & I are quiet people and when DD is at school, I’m often asleep or at hospital) and explaining that I only have about 12-14 months left to live due to an autoimmune disorder which she actually knows I have, that I want to spend what time I have left with my child in peace and just want to be left alone and politely requested that they stop slamming their front door as it was making us both jump a mile and was affecting DD at school when it happens during the night. I was very polite and promised to do what I can on my part to try and mitigate the situation with her dog seeing mine through the fence (which I have done, I put tarpaulin up but clearly I need to add more!)

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and now her Dad is seemingly living there and is making mine & my daughter’s lives a living hell.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I open one of my French doors and either let my dog out for a wee or I dare to step out into my own garden, not only does their dog bark like mad at mine (who now just ignores theirs as he’s used to it!) I get “Oh for fuck’s sake!” or her little boy goes running inside shouting “Mum, Granddad, she’s in her garden again!!!” followed by “Oh for fuck’s sake! Fucking typical!” It’s got to the point where I’m genuinely anxious to go into my own garden and I’m not exaggerating and I’m a keen gardener! I can’t even nip to my greenhouse to get some lettuce without a “Oh for fuck’s sake, fat fuck is out again!” 😳
Last week, I had to mow the lawn as it was the first day I’d had in weeks where I was well enough to do it and they were having a BBQ (I don’t think there were any guests but I decided to be as quick as possible anyway) and well, he was fuming and they went storming inside, slamming the door. I don’t know what was said as I had the mower on but heard door slam. That one was probably my fault for mowing whilst they were having a BBQ but if I’d waited until the next time I was well enough, the grass would’ve been too long to mow!

Another thing which I’ve been ignoring in the hope that it naturally settles (and to avoid confrontation with him), is the fact that their dog barks the ENTIRE TIME he is left in the house alone. Barks loudly and howls. So bad that me making a phone call is nigh on impossible. It’s often overnight also, so that is hell for DD especially. This happened today and I’ve taken to recording clips of it just in case it’s needed in future. When it finally stopped, presumably as he came home, the first thing I did, was quietly let DDog out as I’d kept him in during the barking due to the noise coming from their side. Well, this was a mistake as their dog saw mine and erupted - as per usual! Mine didn’t bark back at all but DD grabbed the treat tub and told him to come in for obvious reasons and neighbour’s Dad shouts “FUCKING TWATS!!!!!” over the fence. Now I have never, ever responded to ANY of it but having just endured hours upon hours of their Alsation barking and howling I snapped and said, calmly, “Your dog has been barking all day!!!” to which he shouts “Because of you! YOU’RE CAUSING IT!!!” “Every fucking day you’re in your garden” I reply “And?!” At which point he slams their door and my DD bursts into tears and call me pathetic but so did I. I’m at my wits end. This is my home. My DD’s home and this is almost certainly the last summer of my life. My only hobby is quietly (& I do mean quietly) pottering around in my garden deadheading flowers or pruning roses etc.

  • I don’t ever have visitors besides my 82yr old mother (she’s my only remaining family besides DD) and what friends do bother with me, I just have catch up coffees with in Costa!
  • I don’t play music in my home or my garden. If I listen to a podcast or LBC, it’s on earphones.
  • My dog rarely barks and if he does, it’s only a tiny bit if he is barked at! He did once bark at an Owl ornament I bought but in his defence, it did blink at night time!!
  • I do not speak on the phone in the garden as everyone around me would hear and despite this massive long post, I am quite a quiet person usually!
  • DD is rarely in the garden (more’s the pity!) she prefers gaming! She used to play out front on her scooter with some kids from up the street but she’s been too frightened to, since neighbour’s Dad aggressively told her to “Piss off” once about a year ago when he’d arrived about 5 mins after neighbour had left the house and so, being 9, she told him. Who tells a 9yr old to piss off?

I have reported today’s incident to non-emergency police. However a. Officer won’t be free to talk to me until the end of next week which I’m sad about tbh. I could’ve used the advice as right now, I’m terrified to even let my dog out for a wee, let alone step into my garden.
Again, having escaped extreme DV, it’s very difficult for me to not default to flight mode. I’m still shaking and this happened 2 hours ago. Pathetic, I know. I already struggle with anxiety.

Sorry this was so long but I didn’t want to miss anything out and have to correct people or be accused of drip feeding!

There’s nothing I can do, is there?

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the80sweregreat · Today 16:55

It’s awful to feel trapped in your own home.
If you can look into moving, maybe this is what it’ll take.
I doubt that anyone will get the better of them and even if you had someone try to intimidate them back, it could make things worse.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:55

ThatRatBastard · Today 16:53

Contact your local councillor, or MP. Might be worth a try; they can encourage the council to act more quickly.

I would ask some biker friends to come round and hang out in your garden for a few days.

Ooooh now this is a good idea! Our latest MP is lovely and approachable. Thanks!

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JustSayingReally · Today 16:55

What a vile family, I’m so annoyed on your behalf. If it was me I’d say something back but I appreciate not everyone can do that.
Your garden is yours to enjoy and you are entitled to spend your last summer in it. He obviously gets a kick out of verbally abusing women. If I lived near you I’d send my DH round to have a word with him.
Report every incident and keep reporting.
Im so sorry you’re going through this x

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DecisionTime123 · Today 16:57

OP this is appalling. Have you told the housing association, council etc that you have a life limiting illness? I'd second going to the MP for help. Your neighbours are cunts.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:57

@ConcernedOfSussexI wish I had a friend like you! My only friend is lovely but we’re not that close.

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:58

DecisionTime123 · Today 16:57

OP this is appalling. Have you told the housing association, council etc that you have a life limiting illness? I'd second going to the MP for help. Your neighbours are cunts.

Yes, they each just said “bless ya”

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the80sweregreat · Today 16:59

The 80s were an odd time I think. Lots of problems, but also a lot less stressful.
I dread my neighbours moving on as they are good as gold and very quiet. I think that some people are just difficult to handle and unreasonable and you’ve been unlucky to have to deal with this.

Fatiguedwithlife · Today 17:00

Just go into your garden and shout “shut up you fucking weirdo, I’m sick of your bullshit.”
What will he do? Carry on with his nonsense remarks? Let him! Enjoy your garden, laugh at them every time they do weird shit.

TheChosenTwo · Today 17:00

For the immediate issue of your tomatoes and your dog, put your headphones on,
let your dog out and get your tomatoes. Then come back inside when you’re both done.
He might be saying shitty comments but you’re not going to hear them over your headphones.

Fatiguedwithlife · Today 17:01

In fact, where do you live? I’m sure a brave MNEr would go round and tell him for you

socialdilemmawhattodo · Today 17:01

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:54

I know! All I can think, is what on earth do they think I’m doing/have done wrong?!?!

Anyone know if Blink doorbells are as good as Ring? I have a Ring doorbell on the front, but it wasn’t cheap. Looking at getting a Blink for the back to capture this nonsense!

Eufy are great and easy to use.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 17:02

Fatiguedwithlife · Today 17:01

In fact, where do you live? I’m sure a brave MNEr would go round and tell him for you

Harrogate, North Yorkshire

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Happyjoe · Today 17:02

Video everything on your phone. Every insult, everything. Get your camera ready when you let your woofs out to pee. You can also get cameras that you can put upstairs and push against the glass, that will record anything coming into your own garden.

This is harassment imo, what an awful, bullying family. They are disgusting. Similar for me next door but I fight back and laugh out loud when they insult me over the fence.

Go easy OP. Hope you can get some much needed peace for you and your son asap.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 17:03

socialdilemmawhattodo · Today 17:01

Eufy are great and easy to use.

Thank you!

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getearnow · Today 17:03

I bet that another neighbour has reported their dog and they think that it was you… if what you say is true then you have done nothing wrong and it’s the only explanation I can think of.

Fatiguedwithlife · Today 17:04

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 17:02

Harrogate, North Yorkshire

I’m in Scarborough so not a million miles but a little too far to pop round. Darn it- I wish I could I’d love yo unleash my perimenopausal anger on some fuckwit like him!

WonderingWanda · Today 17:04

They sound deeply unpleasant op but they are just the sort of people who thrive on bullying those nicer than them. I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnosis and how miserable they are making life for you. I think you need to stop being so nice. Mow your lawn, hose over the fence when the dog barks, music in the garden, when they shout things shout back that you are recording them and will be reporting their abuse to the police.....or just shout "fuck off you miserable bastards" but you sound far too nice for that. Maybe start inviting people over too.

EverMissWicklowSometimes · Today 17:04

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banmusk · Today 17:04

Your neighbours are pondlife/trash and they resent you because you're better than them OP.

PinkPhonyClub · Today 17:04

Just on the cameras I would keep it on one system for ease. Ring cameras are often on offer at Amazon.

Note though I would set it either it doesn’t cover your neighbours at all or at least it is blanked out which you can do easily. You don’t want accusations you are filming them in own garden.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 17:05

TheChosenTwo · Today 17:00

For the immediate issue of your tomatoes and your dog, put your headphones on,
let your dog out and get your tomatoes. Then come back inside when you’re both done.
He might be saying shitty comments but you’re not going to hear them over your headphones.

You’re right. I’ll grab DD’s big headphones and whack a bit of YouTube on quietly. DDog is now doing a victory lap around the garden, poor thing.

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:50

Moving is now my aim. Might not be do-able, but I can’t deal with this. The dog is begging to go into the garden to play and I need some tomatoes from my greenhouse but I can’t risk it! :(

Do not bow to this bully. Let your dog out and go and get your tomatoes.
What’s he going to do about it other than shout over the fence.
And yes if you know anybody’s with a big scary looking husband or son ask them to help and pop round there.
People like him are usually all
mouth and no trousers.
You need to show your daughter that blokes like him need to either ignored or dealt with.

Hideouslyhot · Today 17:06

Are you in rented or do you own?

Onceuponatime32 · Today 17:06

I’ve got problem neighbours and I am in a fb group for anti social neighbours. I hate to say it but it is quite rare for the council to take any meaningful action. They are reluctant to issue community protection orders and I don’t think they’re worth the paper they’re written on.

A few blokes paying him a visit would end this permanently. But if you can’t do that ring the police every single time.

Azandme · Today 17:06

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Seriously? How is something that affects her entire life not a priority?

A peaceful home with her dd is a priority. Which the behaviour of the neighbours is destroying.