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Terrified to go into my own garden..

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:33

I just want to preface this by saying that I’ve name changed and MNHQ will be able to verify that I’ve been on here a long while. Just pointing this out, as I’ll inevitably get troll hunted on this one as it makes very little sense! I assure you I have not left anything out whatsoever and I’m sorry it’s such a long post.

I’m a widowed parent of one 11yr old DD. I have a small-ish dog who thankfully doesn’t bark much (which is relevant to this situation).

2 years ago, my usually always very friendly & chatty next door neighbour, randomly blocked me from texting her - which I rarely ever did anyway tbh, only ever if there was a parcel here for her etc. The last time I’d spoken to her, everything had been great. I was utterly mystified but figured it’d be sorted eventually and I’d ask her when I saw her next. With it being winter I didn’t see her for a while and when I did, I was ignored. Really odd but ok…. Maybe I or DD had made some noise? Although she has always assured me vehemently that she can’t hear anything from our side but even so, I don’t allow DD to make noise for my own sake as well as that of others!

Last summer, there were a few occasions when I was in my back garden (6ft fence with vertical planks with small gaps in between) and neighbour’s Dad who was there, shouted over at me. Once when I was taking a photo of a random plant which had popped up so I could identify it, he shouts “Come round if you want to take photos, you fat fuck!” Now, I should’ve asked WTF he was talking about and corrected him but I was too stunned to speak! Another time I got called a “sad pathetic loser” when I was cutting sweet pea flowers off my trellis on our adjoining fence. Followed by him saying to his daughter “Don’t worry she’s obviously got no life” Again, I hugely regret not saying something back and asking what on earth I’m meant to have said or done wrong. But having escaped extremely violent DV, I just don’t have the strength to confront any male and probably never will. It’s fight or flight and I flee. Until today, that is.

Around the end of last year, the neighbour got a dog of their own and despite my calling my dog in every single time, theirs still barks loudly every single time he sees my dog through the fence. I’ve tried putting tarpaulin up on the adjoining fence to prevent their dog seeing mine but nope, it still keeps happening. Thankfully my dog doesn’t usually bark back and if he does, it’s one singular woof to show his displeasure, then he comes in!
About 2 months ago, I wrote neighbour herself a letter (as she just blanks me when I try speaking to her face to face) explaining that I’ve absolutely zero clue what I’ve done to upset her, apologised if it’s noise (though I really don’t think it is, as DD & I are quiet people and when DD is at school, I’m often asleep or at hospital) and explaining that I only have about 12-14 months left to live due to an autoimmune disorder which she actually knows I have, that I want to spend what time I have left with my child in peace and just want to be left alone and politely requested that they stop slamming their front door as it was making us both jump a mile and was affecting DD at school when it happens during the night. I was very polite and promised to do what I can on my part to try and mitigate the situation with her dog seeing mine through the fence (which I have done, I put tarpaulin up but clearly I need to add more!)

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and now her Dad is seemingly living there and is making mine & my daughter’s lives a living hell.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I open one of my French doors and either let my dog out for a wee or I dare to step out into my own garden, not only does their dog bark like mad at mine (who now just ignores theirs as he’s used to it!) I get “Oh for fuck’s sake!” or her little boy goes running inside shouting “Mum, Granddad, she’s in her garden again!!!” followed by “Oh for fuck’s sake! Fucking typical!” It’s got to the point where I’m genuinely anxious to go into my own garden and I’m not exaggerating and I’m a keen gardener! I can’t even nip to my greenhouse to get some lettuce without a “Oh for fuck’s sake, fat fuck is out again!” 😳
Last week, I had to mow the lawn as it was the first day I’d had in weeks where I was well enough to do it and they were having a BBQ (I don’t think there were any guests but I decided to be as quick as possible anyway) and well, he was fuming and they went storming inside, slamming the door. I don’t know what was said as I had the mower on but heard door slam. That one was probably my fault for mowing whilst they were having a BBQ but if I’d waited until the next time I was well enough, the grass would’ve been too long to mow!

Another thing which I’ve been ignoring in the hope that it naturally settles (and to avoid confrontation with him), is the fact that their dog barks the ENTIRE TIME he is left in the house alone. Barks loudly and howls. So bad that me making a phone call is nigh on impossible. It’s often overnight also, so that is hell for DD especially. This happened today and I’ve taken to recording clips of it just in case it’s needed in future. When it finally stopped, presumably as he came home, the first thing I did, was quietly let DDog out as I’d kept him in during the barking due to the noise coming from their side. Well, this was a mistake as their dog saw mine and erupted - as per usual! Mine didn’t bark back at all but DD grabbed the treat tub and told him to come in for obvious reasons and neighbour’s Dad shouts “FUCKING TWATS!!!!!” over the fence. Now I have never, ever responded to ANY of it but having just endured hours upon hours of their Alsation barking and howling I snapped and said, calmly, “Your dog has been barking all day!!!” to which he shouts “Because of you! YOU’RE CAUSING IT!!!” “Every fucking day you’re in your garden” I reply “And?!” At which point he slams their door and my DD bursts into tears and call me pathetic but so did I. I’m at my wits end. This is my home. My DD’s home and this is almost certainly the last summer of my life. My only hobby is quietly (& I do mean quietly) pottering around in my garden deadheading flowers or pruning roses etc.

  • I don’t ever have visitors besides my 82yr old mother (she’s my only remaining family besides DD) and what friends do bother with me, I just have catch up coffees with in Costa!
  • I don’t play music in my home or my garden. If I listen to a podcast or LBC, it’s on earphones.
  • My dog rarely barks and if he does, it’s only a tiny bit if he is barked at! He did once bark at an Owl ornament I bought but in his defence, it did blink at night time!!
  • I do not speak on the phone in the garden as everyone around me would hear and despite this massive long post, I am quite a quiet person usually!
  • DD is rarely in the garden (more’s the pity!) she prefers gaming! She used to play out front on her scooter with some kids from up the street but she’s been too frightened to, since neighbour’s Dad aggressively told her to “Piss off” once about a year ago when he’d arrived about 5 mins after neighbour had left the house and so, being 9, she told him. Who tells a 9yr old to piss off?

I have reported today’s incident to non-emergency police. However a. Officer won’t be free to talk to me until the end of next week which I’m sad about tbh. I could’ve used the advice as right now, I’m terrified to even let my dog out for a wee, let alone step into my garden.
Again, having escaped extreme DV, it’s very difficult for me to not default to flight mode. I’m still shaking and this happened 2 hours ago. Pathetic, I know. I already struggle with anxiety.

Sorry this was so long but I didn’t want to miss anything out and have to correct people or be accused of drip feeding!

There’s nothing I can do, is there?

OP posts:
Lionessadmirer · Today 21:14

You need witnesses.
do you have any local friends?

Jane143 · Today 21:18

You need to try get some family or friends onboard, especially if your daughter is sadly going to be living there alone one day. Ring the police again, tell them you’re disabled and they are bullying you. Hope they will send someone out x

I8toys · Today 21:26

I'm in Knaresborough down the road - if there are a few of us we can witness the behaviour

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Thomastuchel · Today 21:26

This is awful - what an absolute POS he is. I'm really angry on your behalf OP. You have had some fantastic advice though. You sound like a lively lady who deserves to enjoy your remaining time.
I can honestly say if I was closer I'd be round like a shot for an afternoon in your garden. I'd also bring my wee dog with me too to piss them off even more.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 21:37

Flumposie3 · Today 20:15

Hi op. I am totally enraged over this. And guess what, I live in Harrogate. I am near the showground . I love gardening too.

Edited

Oooh hi 👋 I bet this week has been chaos for you over that side of town!?

OP posts:
TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 21:40

Gemstar3 · Today 20:17

OP are you by any chance talking about the Costa next to the fancy pet food shop near the station? If so, big burly man I am not, but unphased by general cockwombles I am…and I potentially live round the corner. Happy to come grab you some tomatoes…DM me!

Ha I know which one you mean but no, we tend to go to the one in Next at St James’ Retail park.

OP posts:
TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 21:41

Lionessadmirer · Today 21:14

You need witnesses.
do you have any local friends?

Not who can come round, no. My one and only friend is in a controlling marriage so we only get very rare, short meet ups.

OP posts:
TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 21:42

I8toys · Today 21:26

I'm in Knaresborough down the road - if there are a few of us we can witness the behaviour

I love Knaresborough (especially on a Wednesday!) I’m near Leeds rd.

OP posts:
HopeSpringingHigh · Today 21:45

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 20:03

Not that I’ve heard.

Anything about you not working due to your illness? I think the comments about you not having a life imply a hatred toward disability .

Netcurtainnelly · Today 21:47

Bloody neighbours
Some are really bad news.
I hope you get to speak to your community support soon.

MrsPorridgepot · Today 21:47

I’m so sorry you are going through this OP. Great advice to bring it up with MP, keep record and get an extra doorbell but I also suggest you have a quiet word with school too so they know this is happening for your DD, bless her.

blackpooolrock · Today 21:49

As others have said put in some earphones. Use your phone to record the father being abusive every time and after a few weeks report him using the evidence.

otherwise tell him to go forth and multiply.

Freinddilemma · Today 21:50

This is absolutely disgusting. I felt rage rising in me on your behalf. You poor woman. Sending hugs. I bet he isn't supposed to be living there. I bet he has formers

HorrorPudding · Today 21:51

I wish I lived in Harrogate, or even close! I agree with previous PP, it’s rare I get so angry on an OP’s behalf. Just recounted your experiences @TotallyTangerineGeum to my 6”5” 21 year old DS and he would love to pop round to your neighbour with some mates and persuade him to change his behaviour. He’s going to have to form an orderly queue behind some infinitely more dangerous Mumsnetters!

I really hope you get some support. I know we should try and sort things through the proper channels but sometimes these fuckwits have to be spoken to in the only language they understand. But I hope it’s sorted however it’s done, and swiftly so that you can enjoy your garden in peace for the rest of the summer and beyond as you so deserve. 💐

HJC88 · Today 21:55

So, because I am the same sort of person as you I would also be terribly upset. But I have also found that headphones with really good banging tunes that you can wear in the garden and absentmindedly sing along to would be advantageous, you can never sing in key when you've got headphones on, you would be awful. You cannot hear your neighbour but by God will he hear you. Let the dog out, you won't be able to hear his dog barking and start gardening, mowing and anything you like. As long as you keep your noise on headphones and your chores within acceptable hours there's not a damn thing he can do.

Perhaps get DD along and have a silent disco outdoors, really wind the old fart up. Make the most of the time you have with your beautiful child and to hell with everyone else.

Netcurtainnelly · Today 21:55

CorvusNoir · Today 17:16

WTF ?
As someone who had to move due to a psycho neighbour, I know that being trapped in your home in a situation you feel you can't escape from is hell. I ended up on medication..
Peace and calm in our own homes IS a priority. Our homes are our sanctuaries.

In my case the neighbour was a home owner, so all I could do was move. So I did.

In your case I really hope your MP or local councillors can get onto their housing association and put the pressure on, or the police manage to pay them a visit. I really hope so. I feel for you, OP.

How do you know when you move your not going to encounter another bad neighbour though.

TheScreen · Today 21:59

Op do you have a phone lanyard? You could just pop your phone on video record around your neck every time you step out of your back door. You'd soon have plenty of evidence of what they are saying/shouting.

I'd definitely get some sort of discreet camera up too though in your back garden but the phone thing you can start doing right away.

NettleTea · Today 22:01

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 20:04

Ooooh you might be onto something there

I was wondering this too - if he wanted your property - do you think he is in a position to be given it?

NeatPinkFinch · Today 22:04

He’s a coward OP. He wouldn’t be doing it if you were a man. Next time he says anything abusive at all to you tell him you are recording him to keep a record for the police.

mammat72 · Today 22:07

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:41

I think non-mols are only for post-relationships (been there!) but I’ll look into it, thank you. There must be something!

they obviously think you've done something but that's neither here or there. complaining will just cause you more issues and they seem like they are wronguns, i really think you need to move if you can. you want the time you have with your daughter to be peaceful. that would be what i was aiming for

HorrorPudding · Today 22:10

Francestein · Today 19:30

I wonder if dad has moved in illegally and is intimidating OP so that he can scare her off and get her house….

@Francestein I think you’re right on the money.

Blueyblueyblue · Today 22:15

This is heartbreaking to read. I’m so glad you’ve started this thread @TotallyTangerineGeum . This thread has shown this forum at its very best. On behalf of the OP, I thank everyone on here offering so much love, advice and support. It’s heartwarming.

Don’t let the bastards grind you down @TotallyTangerineGeum . Sending love and strength. 🩷💪

Trallers · Today 22:15

What a truly horrible situation, I'm so sad for you. This thread is wonderful though and I hope some of the tips from lovely MNers end up helping.

Rugrats2026 · Today 22:22

ThisISmycircusandtheseAREmymonkeys · Today 17:32

Do you have a local FB group, you could post to ”ask” for advice on the quickest way to deal with abusive neighbour? Say what you said here, that you are ill and can no longer spend time in your own garden without being abused. I am sure some neighbours won’t mind helping you out.

It sounds awful.

This, please do this OP. I’m really sure you will have local people offer to come over. Please try this and write to your MP on Monday.

I feel for you so much. X

Horses7 · Today 22:25

Definitely your MP - no-one should have to put up with this level of abuse and intimidation.
I would emphasise that this bullying/abuse/intimidation is affecting your mental health severely and that of your daughter.
Impress on MP, council, housing association etc how absolutely terrified you and your daughter are of the people
next door.
Try to record everything preferably on your phone or ring door bell, and in writing with dates/times.
I’m so sorry you’re having to live through this.

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