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Terrified to go into my own garden..

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:33

I just want to preface this by saying that I’ve name changed and MNHQ will be able to verify that I’ve been on here a long while. Just pointing this out, as I’ll inevitably get troll hunted on this one as it makes very little sense! I assure you I have not left anything out whatsoever and I’m sorry it’s such a long post.

I’m a widowed parent of one 11yr old DD. I have a small-ish dog who thankfully doesn’t bark much (which is relevant to this situation).

2 years ago, my usually always very friendly & chatty next door neighbour, randomly blocked me from texting her - which I rarely ever did anyway tbh, only ever if there was a parcel here for her etc. The last time I’d spoken to her, everything had been great. I was utterly mystified but figured it’d be sorted eventually and I’d ask her when I saw her next. With it being winter I didn’t see her for a while and when I did, I was ignored. Really odd but ok…. Maybe I or DD had made some noise? Although she has always assured me vehemently that she can’t hear anything from our side but even so, I don’t allow DD to make noise for my own sake as well as that of others!

Last summer, there were a few occasions when I was in my back garden (6ft fence with vertical planks with small gaps in between) and neighbour’s Dad who was there, shouted over at me. Once when I was taking a photo of a random plant which had popped up so I could identify it, he shouts “Come round if you want to take photos, you fat fuck!” Now, I should’ve asked WTF he was talking about and corrected him but I was too stunned to speak! Another time I got called a “sad pathetic loser” when I was cutting sweet pea flowers off my trellis on our adjoining fence. Followed by him saying to his daughter “Don’t worry she’s obviously got no life” Again, I hugely regret not saying something back and asking what on earth I’m meant to have said or done wrong. But having escaped extremely violent DV, I just don’t have the strength to confront any male and probably never will. It’s fight or flight and I flee. Until today, that is.

Around the end of last year, the neighbour got a dog of their own and despite my calling my dog in every single time, theirs still barks loudly every single time he sees my dog through the fence. I’ve tried putting tarpaulin up on the adjoining fence to prevent their dog seeing mine but nope, it still keeps happening. Thankfully my dog doesn’t usually bark back and if he does, it’s one singular woof to show his displeasure, then he comes in!
About 2 months ago, I wrote neighbour herself a letter (as she just blanks me when I try speaking to her face to face) explaining that I’ve absolutely zero clue what I’ve done to upset her, apologised if it’s noise (though I really don’t think it is, as DD & I are quiet people and when DD is at school, I’m often asleep or at hospital) and explaining that I only have about 12-14 months left to live due to an autoimmune disorder which she actually knows I have, that I want to spend what time I have left with my child in peace and just want to be left alone and politely requested that they stop slamming their front door as it was making us both jump a mile and was affecting DD at school when it happens during the night. I was very polite and promised to do what I can on my part to try and mitigate the situation with her dog seeing mine through the fence (which I have done, I put tarpaulin up but clearly I need to add more!)

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and now her Dad is seemingly living there and is making mine & my daughter’s lives a living hell.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I open one of my French doors and either let my dog out for a wee or I dare to step out into my own garden, not only does their dog bark like mad at mine (who now just ignores theirs as he’s used to it!) I get “Oh for fuck’s sake!” or her little boy goes running inside shouting “Mum, Granddad, she’s in her garden again!!!” followed by “Oh for fuck’s sake! Fucking typical!” It’s got to the point where I’m genuinely anxious to go into my own garden and I’m not exaggerating and I’m a keen gardener! I can’t even nip to my greenhouse to get some lettuce without a “Oh for fuck’s sake, fat fuck is out again!” 😳
Last week, I had to mow the lawn as it was the first day I’d had in weeks where I was well enough to do it and they were having a BBQ (I don’t think there were any guests but I decided to be as quick as possible anyway) and well, he was fuming and they went storming inside, slamming the door. I don’t know what was said as I had the mower on but heard door slam. That one was probably my fault for mowing whilst they were having a BBQ but if I’d waited until the next time I was well enough, the grass would’ve been too long to mow!

Another thing which I’ve been ignoring in the hope that it naturally settles (and to avoid confrontation with him), is the fact that their dog barks the ENTIRE TIME he is left in the house alone. Barks loudly and howls. So bad that me making a phone call is nigh on impossible. It’s often overnight also, so that is hell for DD especially. This happened today and I’ve taken to recording clips of it just in case it’s needed in future. When it finally stopped, presumably as he came home, the first thing I did, was quietly let DDog out as I’d kept him in during the barking due to the noise coming from their side. Well, this was a mistake as their dog saw mine and erupted - as per usual! Mine didn’t bark back at all but DD grabbed the treat tub and told him to come in for obvious reasons and neighbour’s Dad shouts “FUCKING TWATS!!!!!” over the fence. Now I have never, ever responded to ANY of it but having just endured hours upon hours of their Alsation barking and howling I snapped and said, calmly, “Your dog has been barking all day!!!” to which he shouts “Because of you! YOU’RE CAUSING IT!!!” “Every fucking day you’re in your garden” I reply “And?!” At which point he slams their door and my DD bursts into tears and call me pathetic but so did I. I’m at my wits end. This is my home. My DD’s home and this is almost certainly the last summer of my life. My only hobby is quietly (& I do mean quietly) pottering around in my garden deadheading flowers or pruning roses etc.

  • I don’t ever have visitors besides my 82yr old mother (she’s my only remaining family besides DD) and what friends do bother with me, I just have catch up coffees with in Costa!
  • I don’t play music in my home or my garden. If I listen to a podcast or LBC, it’s on earphones.
  • My dog rarely barks and if he does, it’s only a tiny bit if he is barked at! He did once bark at an Owl ornament I bought but in his defence, it did blink at night time!!
  • I do not speak on the phone in the garden as everyone around me would hear and despite this massive long post, I am quite a quiet person usually!
  • DD is rarely in the garden (more’s the pity!) she prefers gaming! She used to play out front on her scooter with some kids from up the street but she’s been too frightened to, since neighbour’s Dad aggressively told her to “Piss off” once about a year ago when he’d arrived about 5 mins after neighbour had left the house and so, being 9, she told him. Who tells a 9yr old to piss off?

I have reported today’s incident to non-emergency police. However a. Officer won’t be free to talk to me until the end of next week which I’m sad about tbh. I could’ve used the advice as right now, I’m terrified to even let my dog out for a wee, let alone step into my garden.
Again, having escaped extreme DV, it’s very difficult for me to not default to flight mode. I’m still shaking and this happened 2 hours ago. Pathetic, I know. I already struggle with anxiety.

Sorry this was so long but I didn’t want to miss anything out and have to correct people or be accused of drip feeding!

There’s nothing I can do, is there?

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RoseField1 · Today 16:37

What a horrible situation. I don't think there is much you can do apart from report him to the police every time he verbally abuses you. You may be able to get a non molestation order. I wouldn't usually recommend reporting neighbours to the police but it can't get much worse than it is now.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:40

Apologies! I promise I did put more paragraphs in! The MN app likes to remove them and I forget every time!

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TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:41

RoseField1 · Today 16:37

What a horrible situation. I don't think there is much you can do apart from report him to the police every time he verbally abuses you. You may be able to get a non molestation order. I wouldn't usually recommend reporting neighbours to the police but it can't get much worse than it is now.

I think non-mols are only for post-relationships (been there!) but I’ll look into it, thank you. There must be something!

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Partingofthewaves · Today 16:42

This sounds really unpleasant and probably amounts to harassment. You also have an illness which could count as disability discrimination if any of the comments are related to that. I’d also report every incident to the council as anti social behaviour, including the barking dog. In the meantime I would try and get some inexpensive noise cancelling headphones for you and your daughter. If you can’t hear him he will get no joy out of shouting abuse at you. I hope the police are helpful.

Wingwalk · Today 16:43

I don't know what to suggest but I really feel for you! What a horrible family. Perhaps worth recording not just the barks but the verbal abuse x

MyKindHiker · Today 16:44

There must be some service where you can rent a really big buff facially tattooed 'boyfriend' (or girlfriend!) to hang around and give them a bit of taste of their own medicine? Verbally abusing them right back?! They are bullies and being horrible because you're a woman on her own.

I do half joke but only half. It fee;s a bit like you need a village right now, loads of witnesses and people around on your team who can call their behaviour for what it is

MixedBouquets · Today 16:45

Noise nuisance is usually a council matter, if you want to separate that out from the threatening behaviour?

BlakeCarrington · Today 16:45

💐Ah I’m sorry OP, you’re having a rotten time.

im glad you’ve reported it to the police, what an absolute bully. I would suggest keeping your phone on record when around the front or back and also hope the police will go round and reward him the riot act, stupid arse.

All the best to you lovely Xx

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:46

Partingofthewaves · Today 16:42

This sounds really unpleasant and probably amounts to harassment. You also have an illness which could count as disability discrimination if any of the comments are related to that. I’d also report every incident to the council as anti social behaviour, including the barking dog. In the meantime I would try and get some inexpensive noise cancelling headphones for you and your daughter. If you can’t hear him he will get no joy out of shouting abuse at you. I hope the police are helpful.

I’ve already reported to the council and they’ve had me download the Noise App which I’ve been using but they want me to write down every single bark (!!!!) and shouting incident for 3 long months before they’ll act! I’ve also reported it to her housing association but again, it has to be 3 months since I first reported it, before they’ll act!

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the80sweregreat · Today 16:48

I’d definitely try to record some of this and get in touch with the council. They are out of order and it’s intimidating. I hope someone has better advice for you.
I suppose that moving is out of the question , but I can understand why people do with such horrible Neighbours. They sound nasty.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:48

BlakeCarrington · Today 16:45

💐Ah I’m sorry OP, you’re having a rotten time.

im glad you’ve reported it to the police, what an absolute bully. I would suggest keeping your phone on record when around the front or back and also hope the police will go round and reward him the riot act, stupid arse.

All the best to you lovely Xx

Thank you. I’m going to get another Ring doorbell for the back of the house. I can’t stop shaking, the last time I was shouted at like that, I was in a very, very dangerous position so I’m like 🫨 now

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bluemoonredsky · Today 16:49

Does the neighbour rent? If so report to the landlord

RoseField1 · Today 16:49

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:41

I think non-mols are only for post-relationships (been there!) but I’ll look into it, thank you. There must be something!

You're right, it would be an injunction not a non mol but either way it might help

HopeSpringingHigh · Today 16:50

I'm so sorry you're going through all this .
I think you're being way too nice though . Never expect reasonableness from unreasonable people .
If you're in rented I would move but if not i'd be reporting etc .

redboxerclub · Today 16:50

Is it owned or rented. If rented contact the letting agent. You need to report this As harassment to the police and keep a log.

You poor poor thing. I strongly advise you get some discrete cameras. You are allowed cameras to record your own property. If you get a ring camera the record sound too. Good luck. I advise that you keep a log of incidents.z and date

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:50

the80sweregreat · Today 16:48

I’d definitely try to record some of this and get in touch with the council. They are out of order and it’s intimidating. I hope someone has better advice for you.
I suppose that moving is out of the question , but I can understand why people do with such horrible Neighbours. They sound nasty.

Moving is now my aim. Might not be do-able, but I can’t deal with this. The dog is begging to go into the garden to play and I need some tomatoes from my greenhouse but I can’t risk it! :(

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Miyagi99 · Today 16:50

How awful, report every incident via 101. Record if possible. If they’re renting contact the landlord/estate agent.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:51

redboxerclub · Today 16:50

Is it owned or rented. If rented contact the letting agent. You need to report this As harassment to the police and keep a log.

You poor poor thing. I strongly advise you get some discrete cameras. You are allowed cameras to record your own property. If you get a ring camera the record sound too. Good luck. I advise that you keep a log of incidents.z and date

Housing association. Have reported but they cannot act until 3 months after my first report. Insane.

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Pallisers · Today 16:52

I'd report to the council/police anyone relevant.

Honestly though I'd be very tempted to retaliate. They are horrible to you anyway. Stick on loud music and go out for the day. Put on music in the garden every time you go out. Shout back worse to them when they shout at you. Look them in the eye and tell them you don't have long to live and will make sure you take them all out painfully as your last act on earth. Then smile. Threaten to kill their dog. Shout back to them that you have posted on facebook that the woman and her dad are offering sex services for free. Drop a note in saying to keep an eye out as you found a nest of rats close to their fence and you've been feeding them every day.

I know, I know- you should do none of that and neither would I but god they are horrible horrible people and i hope some day they get what they deserve.

ConcernedOfSussex · Today 16:52

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:48

Thank you. I’m going to get another Ring doorbell for the back of the house. I can’t stop shaking, the last time I was shouted at like that, I was in a very, very dangerous position so I’m like 🫨 now

Video him abusing you. Post all over social media, contact newspapers. Mention you are terminally ill.

If I was your friend I'd go round and give them what for . Fuckers 😡

teaandtoastwithmarmite · Today 16:52

What an awful situation. Some people beggar belief the way they behave.

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:52

@the80sweregreatAlso I 100% agree re: the 80s. Life was so much quieter and simpler, wasn’t it?

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ThatRatBastard · Today 16:53

Contact your local councillor, or MP. Might be worth a try; they can encourage the council to act more quickly.

I would ask some biker friends to come round and hang out in your garden for a few days.

BlakeCarrington · Today 16:53

ConcernedOfSussex · Today 16:52

Video him abusing you. Post all over social media, contact newspapers. Mention you are terminally ill.

If I was your friend I'd go round and give them what for . Fuckers 😡

So would I! Absolute fuckers indeed

TotallyTangerineGeum · Today 16:54

teaandtoastwithmarmite · Today 16:52

What an awful situation. Some people beggar belief the way they behave.

I know! All I can think, is what on earth do they think I’m doing/have done wrong?!?!

Anyone know if Blink doorbells are as good as Ring? I have a Ring doorbell on the front, but it wasn’t cheap. Looking at getting a Blink for the back to capture this nonsense!

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