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Farage to make statement this afternoon …

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AgitaAndroid · 07/07/2026 12:38

Fingers crossed.

Farage to make statement this afternoon …
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igelkott2026 · 08/07/2026 08:43

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 08/07/2026 08:18

Yes council undertaking unpopular reorganizations. No wonder the councilors didn't want an election they would have lost their seats!!!! These mergers to create super councils are the exact opposite of the devolution that is now the buzz word. To go to the electrate after merging follows the mantra "its better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

I get it Labour voters will justify anything to themselves - it was only a month ago we were being told by posters that Starmer was doing a great job but now we seem to have universal agree that be needed to go.

It's not necessarily the opposite. If you have a bigger council you can devolve more power to it from central government. You can't do that with a mishmash of unitary, district and county councils.

I actually agree with getting rid of all the tiers. It's a waste of money to have all these different layers.

But then I am a centralist at heart, I don't like postcode lotteries. If you pay the same taxes you should get the same services.

ClarkeandNewman · 08/07/2026 08:54

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 08/07/2026 08:08

It's hardly offensive? Why can't I refer to someone is widely known, and refers to themselves. as "the king of the north", as the king of the north.

I think you're deliberately avoiding my question. No problem, your prerogative, but if you don't want to answer, saying so at an earlier point would save a lot of wasted time.

pointythings · 08/07/2026 08:56

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 08/07/2026 08:18

Yes council undertaking unpopular reorganizations. No wonder the councilors didn't want an election they would have lost their seats!!!! These mergers to create super councils are the exact opposite of the devolution that is now the buzz word. To go to the electrate after merging follows the mantra "its better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

I get it Labour voters will justify anything to themselves - it was only a month ago we were being told by posters that Starmer was doing a great job but now we seem to have universal agree that be needed to go.

Ours wasn't a merger but a split... And there was a well publicised consultation too. Those facts, so inconvenient.

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/07/2026 09:05

Ours are being pointlessly re-elected next year to add to the cost of the re-organisation. For someone who criticises the major parties so much he seems to be amazingly keen on wasting taxpayers money.

I’m not sure it’s universally agreed Starmer should go. PLP maybe, but everyone else seems to be annoyed about the complete waste of time this will be.

BrandiedAromatics · 08/07/2026 09:10

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/07/2026 09:05

Ours are being pointlessly re-elected next year to add to the cost of the re-organisation. For someone who criticises the major parties so much he seems to be amazingly keen on wasting taxpayers money.

I’m not sure it’s universally agreed Starmer should go. PLP maybe, but everyone else seems to be annoyed about the complete waste of time this will be.

Yes, thanks. I agree with both of your points. We seem to be rare on here.

SleeplessInWherever · 08/07/2026 09:19

pointythings · 08/07/2026 08:56

Ours wasn't a merger but a split... And there was a well publicised consultation too. Those facts, so inconvenient.

I do wonder where some get their information from, and how it is so wildly different from… the actual information.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 08/07/2026 09:52

SleeplessInWherever · 08/07/2026 09:19

I do wonder where some get their information from, and how it is so wildly different from… the actual information.

My council is merging. They are taking local authorities and merging into one. That is factual. Or are you saying Hampshire are lying and rather merger 15 councils into 4 they are actually splitting?

Local government reorganisation and devolution - Rushmoor Borough Council

If as you say they are lying and are actually going to get 30 smaller councils someone should do something.

Local government reorganisation and devolution - Rushmoor Borough Council

Aldershot and Farnborough will become part of a unitary council for northern Hampshire from 2028.

https://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/your-council/local-government-reorganisation-and-devolution/

SadiraOfTyr · 08/07/2026 10:20

pointythings · 08/07/2026 08:56

Ours wasn't a merger but a split... And there was a well publicised consultation too. Those facts, so inconvenient.

Are you in Surrey? Yes, there will be two new county councils, but it is still a (pointless, anti-democratic, centralising) merger as all the borough councils are being merged into the two new county councils.

TheRealMagic · 08/07/2026 10:21

These mergers to create super councils are the exact opposite of the devolution that is now the buzz word.

This doesn't make sense. Devolution doesn't mean devolving to the smallest possible unit, so that we eventually end up with all governmental spending being determined by parish councils.

pointythings · 08/07/2026 10:43

SadiraOfTyr · 08/07/2026 10:20

Are you in Surrey? Yes, there will be two new county councils, but it is still a (pointless, anti-democratic, centralising) merger as all the borough councils are being merged into the two new county councils.

Not in Surrey. And given that the consensus of the consultation was positive, the public have had their say. Our Reform council want to waste half a million of my taxes fighting to overturn that. Because they're terrified of having more elections in 2 years when they've had enough rope. They're already showing utter unwillingness to be transparent and answer questions. Which is not unexpected, given their leader's reluctance to answer legitimate questions about his financial affairs.

PickAChew · 08/07/2026 11:17

County Durham did this merger back in 2009. It was painless and the only remaining outward sign of it is different coloured bins. It meant less of the inconsistency and duplication that comes with neighbours being under different local authorities and the confusion caused by different layers of councils. It's gone the other way, in the past, when Darlington became a unitary authority in the 90s.

Darlo and Durham are now part of different regional, mayoral combined authorities, which is where the devolution happens. Ours is currently consulting on integrating public transport across the region.

These things are fluid and respond to current needs and running elections shortly before such reorganisations, whether they are mergers, demergers or a complete boundary change, is a waste of time, money and human resources. Not running local elections in councils that will shortly be obsolete is not a conspiracy to keep anyone in or out of power.

BehindIt · 08/07/2026 12:59

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 08/07/2026 08:18

Yes council undertaking unpopular reorganizations. No wonder the councilors didn't want an election they would have lost their seats!!!! These mergers to create super councils are the exact opposite of the devolution that is now the buzz word. To go to the electrate after merging follows the mantra "its better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

I get it Labour voters will justify anything to themselves - it was only a month ago we were being told by posters that Starmer was doing a great job but now we seem to have universal agree that be needed to go.

But the reorganisation of my large, Conservative council was instigated under the Conservative Government….

KeepPumping · 08/07/2026 15:38

Bloozie · 07/07/2026 17:46

Reform don't stand a chance at the next election WITH Farage. Their support is at saturation point. They've persuaded everyone they're going to persuade, and it's not enough people. Lowe is stealing more of that pot by the day, and the financial scandals surrounding Farage keep on coming. Unless we really have become as turd-thick as MAGA voters, he cannot stand on a ticket of fighting the elite and championing the ordinary man while the man's wealth, property empire and criminal funders crawl out from underneath the carpet.

The best way to conquer Farage is to deny him oxygen. The logical reason not to stand is to deny him the opportunity for the 'fight' he has declared himself.

My son once had a massive hissy fit over some perceived slight and threw an unopened, uneaten Twirl in the kitchen bin to spite us. We just looked at him, ignored his wailing and thrashing and attempts to engage us in his entirely invented, perfectly over the top and ridiculous nonsense, and carried on with our day.

He fished his Twirl out of the bin and silently ate it. It was the most ridiculous thing, and has become family lore.

Farage just stamped his foot and threw his own chocolate bar in the bin. Cool. Now fish it out and eat it, you stupid idiot.

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No, I don"t think you understand the dynamic with Farage and the public.

KeepPumping · 08/07/2026 15:43

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TemperanceWest · 08/07/2026 16:00

KeepPumping · 08/07/2026 15:38

No, I don"t think you understand the dynamic with Farage and the public.

The current dynamic is that the public, be they left wing or right wing, are taking the piss out of Farage and are cheering on a 🗑

His supporters will still bat for him, but they are in the minority. He will win Clacton, but his image is shot to smithereens. This will haunt him forever.

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/07/2026 19:53

The plot just keeps on thickening, now Jenrick’s under investigation.

Don’t know if this paywall bypass link will work.

https://www.bypasspaywallreader.com/search.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Finews.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fpolice-launch-investigation-37500-donation-robert-jenrick-campaign-4632944%3Fsrsltid%3DAfmBOorMwn4aqclehBuoy8W7P86bBY7YBCRlvr1nSBt11vJKpa5twXRc

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/07/2026 20:10

Wouldn’t it be just delicious if the whole load of shady crooks went down? Perhaps that’s what all the talk of 2 tier policing was really about. If rich white men get caught in a web of sophisticated crime they can cry foul. ‘’It was the islamists taking over the establishment!’’

Can’t believe they’ve taken so many people for fools.

PerkingFaintly · 08/07/2026 20:25
Shock

So we know that Gary Klopfenstein, based in Chicago, pled guilty to a financial fraud in California in July 2024.

And its acknowledged that when Robert Jenrick was running of the position of Conservative leader in 2024, he accepted £100,000 in donations from a UK-based company called The Spott Fitness, which is now known as The Manna Journey, has zero employees and owes nearly £2 million to a parent entity based in the British Virgin Islands.

According to that article, Phillip Ullman, who was believed to be the origin of the £100,000, alleged last year to the Electoral Commission that £37,500 of it came from Klopfenstein.

If true, that would make it a foreign donation and therefore against UK law.

With the cherry on the top being that the criminal Klopfenstein pled guilty on 19 July 2024, in between his two payments to Spott Fitness on 8 July and 24 July.

So the question is whether that £37,500 really did come from Klopfenstein.

BrandiedAromatics · 08/07/2026 20:39

And then there's George Cottrell's mum:

Mother of Farage aide George Cottrell revealed as Reform UK’s biggest donor | Reform UK | The Guardian

SleeplessInWherever · 08/07/2026 20:57

That’s just made my day.

All his shouting over people and stamping his feet. Your turn, Robby J.

TemperanceWest · 08/07/2026 21:25

It all seems to be falling apart nicely 😊

BrandiedAromatics · 08/07/2026 21:30

Even the over-excitable Chris Mason, BBC, seems to tone down his article every time I reread it:

Is causing a race involving Count Binface, the Monster Raving Loony Party and not many others the action of a prime minister in waiting? 😈

Teanbiscuits33 · 08/07/2026 21:47

BrandiedAromatics · 08/07/2026 21:30

Even the over-excitable Chris Mason, BBC, seems to tone down his article every time I reread it:

Is causing a race involving Count Binface, the Monster Raving Loony Party and not many others the action of a prime minister in waiting? 😈

Isn’t Lawrence Fox standing as well now?