How is Ariana Grande allowed to keep going?

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She looks like she’s at death’s door with anorexia and yet she’s just kicked off a world tour.

I thought we were living in more enlightened times now and that celebrities’ ill health wouldn’t be enabled like this. If she went to any hospital she’d get admitted for malnutrition.

Unless they don't want to. Ariana seems to be doing well by all accounts. My doctor recently threatened to stop my meds because my BMI fell below some acceptable threshold. What happened to our body our choice? If you can be punished or sectioned for being too thin then every unhealthy overweight person should be subjected to the same. Overeating is also a mental illness.

How do you know she's ill? Do you know for sure she is...?

This is an insane line of reasoning. Being very underweight (not just a bit) can kill you very quickly.

being overweight is bad for people in the long term, and the NHS offers support and treatment without inpatient treatment, because they don’t need it.

I don’t know if you know much about anorexia, but it is a really deadly disease. The most deadly mental health disorder, I believe.

You’re also not entitled to any prescription. Maybe your doctor knows something you don’t about your medication and weight. They’re not denying it just for fun.

Gave me goosebumps that did! What an exquisite talent she really was. I would have loved her to have carried on singing and recording for many more years. We were robbed of a gifted young lady, and she was robbed of her life. Utterly tragic. 😢

(By the way I think that date was a bit off. It was 1981 this performance, not 1970.)

She was only 17 when she sang this. Amazing!

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There are clips of her on American TV at 10 years old, she certainly doesn"t look "cool", and the modern mind might find the idea of a child singing songs with adult sentiment a bit odd but the vocals are top drawer, absolutely powerful and amazing.

She looks like an emaciated 10 year old child.

I don't think it's hyperbole to say she looks like some of the images from the concentration camps. It's confronting to see pictures of her. The poor girl needs an intervention.

Medication i've taken for 30 years? I know myself better than anyone. When I was super overweight and depressed when mum died after struggle with dementia. They absolutely should have intervened when I gained 40lbs in. 2.5 months. Not a word. Now that I'm healthy they have an issue??

Far more people die through being overweight/obese than anorexia.

By this reasoning would you think no one should intervene if someone is slashing their wrists, or about to jump off a bridge, or in front of a train ....because theyre not hurting anyone else....

well I seem to have had a post removed already about sectioning. sectioning is not any more barbaric than watching someone starve themselves to death which I have. Both are horrible. It is pretty awful seeing someone being tube fed against their will and being restrained to do so. However, it would have been worse to just let them die due to their mental illness. There are no good options once anorexia takes hold and believe me a person with anorexia is causing harm to others as well as themselves.

You can be morbidly obese and live quite happily until your 80s but being very underweight and not eating has the potential to kill you pretty quickly.

She just looks very sad every time I see her. It is awful and I strongly suspect it’s PTSD after Manchester, she maybe blames herself because they wouldn’t have been there if she wasn’t performing. Who knows though. She is clearly very sick and I hope her young fans don’t try to emulate her disorder.

Oh come on. We know you’re not that stupid

Google "base rate fallacy".

Maybe you think you’re being smart. You’re not

Lena was actually treated as an adult from about 10 years old. I watched a documentary on her a couple of years ago, and it turns out her parents sent her off with her manager and his wife to live in London for a year, to hone her talents, and get more experience. I doubt something like this would be allowed to happen now.. I don't think her parents were bad parents or anything, I think they were doing what they thought was best for Lena at the time. A LOT of things happened back in the 1970s that would never happen now.

This sudden transition from a quiet house on the Isle of Bute where she lived to a high-society life in London overawed her as she was literally just a child. It took a severe emotional toll. It was during this time that she began experiencing pressure to maintain her image and fit into stage costumes, which is widely cited as the catalyst for the anorexia nervosa that she battled for the rest of her life. I can see Ariana Grande going down that same road. But with Ari, it's pressure from social media/always being photographed etc.

With Lena, it's hardly surprising that she was like a 45 year old woman at 17. (I mean her manner and general overall vibe. She actually looks young.) there is a feel of Shirley Bassey, Judy Garland, and Barbra Streisand about her. Incredibly gifted young woman. Like Karen Carpenter, who was also very gifted and succumbed to an eating disorder. Ari is a gifted young woman too, and as I said, I can see her going down that same road. I pray she sees gets help soon, and recovers.

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Just because there is a higher % of obsessed deaths than anerexia doesn't mean it has no merit for discussion. Your more likely to die of cancer than in a car accident. But we still talk about road safety. Both are valid. They don't cancel each other out. Plus I have never seen very overweight celebrities being coverted by others. Neither have I seen models being photo shopped to look fatter.

But we are back to the idea that chasing a anerexic frame is actually the ideal for most and normalising being able to count your ribs without breathing in.

Good point @SurreySenMum26 As has been said, someone is far more likely to be very ill from being 2-3 stone underweight, than they are from being 2-3 stone overweight.

Whilst 2-3 stone overweight is not ideal, most people would not be suffering from illness and ailments carrying that amount of extra weight, and they would have normal energy levels and still be healthy. This would not be the case if you were 2-3 stone underweight.

If I was 2-3 stone underweight I would be 6 stone. I would look incredibly ill and gaunt at that weight, and would be ill a lot more. When I was 7 and a half stone in my late teens when I was dieting very strictly (about one and a half stone underweight) I was always ill, always getting colds and infections, and was always cold.

At 2-3 stone overweight, I would be 11 and a half stone. I have been that weight and look fine at that weight. Also never had any illnesses or health conditions caused be being that weight. I socialised, travelled, played badminton and tennis and went swimming, and worked full time in a demanding job at that weight too. I could barely drag myself out of bed at 2-3 stone underweight, and was always tired.

So yep, being underweight by around 2-3 stone is far more detrimental to your health than being overweight by that amount

Anorexia has the highest % of deaths per sufferer than any other mental illness, full stop. Including early and high death rates for depression, schizophrenia.

I am not so worried for AG as she is an adult with a full medical team on standby. I am worried for young women seeing her example and others and feeling that loss of control that goes on in early teen life and going down that path- it's also associated with autism and gender confusion and general mental health problems.

I've seen people force-fed (not adults) and it's not pretty but neither is starving to death which is what some people are prepared to do.

I actually don't think AG is at super-high risk compared with some I've seen but no-one knows the state of her heart muscle, not even her (ECG's can be fine, til they are not).

Or is she emulating or acting the sort of disorders many of the young social media addicted fans will be manifesting to create "rapport" or to sell tickets in other words?

Yes, I saw that doc. in fact it was that that reminded me of her and led to discovering the clips of just how good she was, back then I think there was a "novelty" air about her with the public, but you have to remember that really really good vocalists who could deliver straight into a microphone live, no studio trickery were very abundant then, of course that doesn"t detract from just how awesome her vocals were. I believe she toured America and sang with Sinatra at around ten years old as well? Good points on AG, the trigger for any illness is coming from different places, but I am also skeptical on AG as my other post notes.

Sadly this is true. And I'm worried about the wlis being highjacked into becoming a facilitator for people with ED. They already are for some.
The problem with Ariana Grande is her very young audience that look up to her and want to be like her. As a 46 old woman she doesn't affect me but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't br the case at 16..

Her show got great reviews in the Guardian. Not just that she can sing (which everyone should already know) but that she was funny and entertaining. Let’s hope that being out doing what she loves can bring her happiness and health. I think she’s incredibly talented and I wish her well. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/jun/14/ariana-grande-eternal-sunshine-tour-review-la?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

That guardian review is typical of their US pop culture reviews, very breathless, written by a fan.

My 2 young adult DC have seen her a couple of times. They said she is wonderful live, such a strong voice, and yes funny and engaging.