How is Ariana Grande allowed to keep going?

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She looks like she’s at death’s door with anorexia and yet she’s just kicked off a world tour.

I thought we were living in more enlightened times now and that celebrities’ ill health wouldn’t be enabled like this. If she went to any hospital she’d get admitted for malnutrition.

It’s what she was known as originally, she is still referred to as Kate often in the press and on SM and it’s stuck with me I guess. I don’t mention her enough to have got used to a change, so on the few occasions I mention her, it’s Kate or Kate Middleton. I doubt she’ll care, 😉 it’s not like I’m her sister or friend. Just as I don’t care if you call me coffeeforthreepluscat, I have no idea who you are so it’s irrrelevant. I might make it my next username so look out for me. 😂

The money machine will keep using her until she drops. The pressure on her to keep going will be huge.

So selfless 🙏

Like Eugenia, she’s a terrible influence on impressionable young girls and teens.

Catherine had a serious illness that eventually necessitated major abdominal surgery, no one knows how long she was suffering. She then was diagnosed with cancer and went through a year of grueling chemotherapy.

Doesn’t sound like an eating disorder to most people.

AG, looks dreadful, whatever the reason for it, poor woman.

I dont get it, that's like saying that an aged fat comedian shouldn't perform in case they have a heart attack. Its the same classification of poor health - just at the other end of the scale.
Do you feel the same about obesity ? Should obese people also be stopped from public performance? Fat people are often great singers/dancers, really enjoy live entertaining and can be equally good at it.
I agree she looks poorly - but on any given day, a bit of people watching in Tesco, will reveal a number of people at both ends of the unhealthy weight scale - should they also be prevented from making public appearances...

I would imagine there is clever lighting etc on the stage as well and that in reality she looks even thinner.
i can’t believe the mainstream press are not discussing this and posting tour photos with no reference to how unwell she looks. Really irresponsible. I saw a post somewhere saying how important it is to address how unwell she looks and how important it is to say that this doesn’t look good as these photos will be massively triggering to those with or recovering from ED.
She looked amazing at the one Manchester concert and had loads of energy - the current tour it looks like she’s being propped up by her dancers half the time.

My 19 and 12 year old girls have tickets to her show in August and I’ll be sitting them down to explain I really don’t think it’s right for them to go given her health and that there’s a high chance it might be cancelled anyway.

Hasn’t she just split up with the guy who ditched his wife and baby for her? I imagine the record company needed to do something to change the topic of conversation as they were getting slated online.
Announce the tour.

It actually makes me really angry how everyone is too scared to deal with anorexia properly.

you have to be extremely obese to be in the danger zone that anorexia is in.

Completely agree. She is obviously very ill. Those promotion interviews for Wicked where herself and Cynthia were in that pattern of undereating and strange codependency were incredibly concerning at the time.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a response to the Manchester bombings at her concert. How do you recover from that - poor woman.
I have seen dancers as thin as her performing ballet at the ROH
She should take some tIme off, I agree

It’s not comparable with a fat performer. You don’t risk dropping dead being a few notches above normal bmi. Also whatever the right on thing to say is being fat is not aspirational for young girls. This performer normalises anorexia it’s really not what any parent of an anorexic needs. Sorry but I think she has a responsibility here she knows what demographic her fans are 🙄.

I think being thin and dangerously thin is still celebrated and coverted normalised by so many. Mil has always been stick thin and I have heard people being envious of her. She had a stroke and was weighed in hospital and fil was shocked she was under six stone, he didn't know she was so underweight.

One issue of being so underweight is you have no reserve if you get very sick and then can't eat properly

I do think there's a bit of a difference. True anorexia is very dangerous. Many really quite large people live into old age, some lead relatively normal lives. Obesity tends to just increase risks, whereas if anorexia continues and continues without intervention or other recovery death is almost certain.

Anorexia, is a mental illness and also something some people sadly aspire to; I've never seen anyone trying to be obese.

It is more nuanced than she should just not be "allowed" to perform though, since none of us know her actual medical details etc.

Of course they can

Think I read that for general chance of survival of illness bmi 25 is the best weight.

I worry as dd does not have anorexia anymore thank god but she’s right at the bottom of normal bmi. If she got ill there’s no reserves there at all.

If it weren’t such a sad situation these posts would be hilarious. Do you think I missed the whole Kate’s missing/ AI Mother’s Day photo saga and didn’t realise she had cancer?! The whole world knows that.

pOW has been underweight for a decade. Even the slowest growing cancer would’ve showed itself before within that time if it were causing her weight loss.

also, she is skinnier than ever now, 2 years since successful treatment. There is no reason her illness would be causing it now.

You’re obviously quite behind on the thread 🤣 but how?

For younger people it seems to be 20-22 is ideal in terms of mortality and then for older 23-27.

With anorexia you can do a lot of damage even at a ‘healthy’ bmi due to the muscle wastage, heart impacts and messing with electrolytes . I have a relative who was sectioned and tube fed at a weight that some on here have described as ‘still a bit chunky’. It can go very quickly into ‘oh shit this person may actually die’.

“For younger people it seems to be 20-22 is ideal in terms of mortality”

where did you see this? Surely there is no ideal for young people since they’re not naturally at risk of mortality?

Some of these comments are wild. They reek of bitchyness rather than concern,

ariana is clearly under weight, this doesn’t mean she lacks capacity, or has to be sectioned. For all people know she may well be receiving treatment and care. Locking her up is not the answer and it’s appalling it’s suggested/

And no her picture aren’t harrowing, frightening or any other hyperbole people want to use. I didn’t see any threads saying lizzo should be sectioned, stopped from performing and was a bad example to young women. No lizzo was apparently a flag bearer for body positivity.

taymor swift is clearly healthy and fit, not under weight. Kate has been slim for a long time, when you see her in shorts etc you can clearly see muscle. She won’t be underweight, simply lower end of a healthy bmi, slim, but there is no doubt she is fit and active. Clearly the cancer diagnosis and treatment will have taken its toll, particularly if it was in any way to do with her digestive system.

people need to use their words carefully. And avoid personal issues with their own bodies driving their comments. Their own resentments. Because it’s very clear some of that is going on here.

Whilst I agree with the start of your post, re lizzo and Pow-
You’re not even talking about recent pictures of Pow- which clearly show how underweight she is. You can’t have a memory from years ago in your head and use it to decide someone isn’t underweight in June 26

the lizzo comparison is wild. AG is underweight enough, that coupled with the strenuous physical work required of a tour, people are concerned her health may become a life threatening emergency.

Lizzo being overweight is no life threatening Emergency, no more so than you or I are experiencing a life threatening emergency. Surely you can see the difference?

btw I would also guess that AG is currently getting help and probably has been for a long time. She’s been open that she’s in permanent therapy. Hopefully the help is enough to keep her just on the right side of an emergency, but it may not be.