Labour isn't Working - Thread 34

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Just watching Streeting being interviewed on Newsnight talking about triggering a leadership challenge next week. Not impressed; no-one could ever accuse him of being erudite - earnest, maybe, in the style of a hopeful local councillor, but that's it.

Agree. I didn’t see Newsnight, but I’ve always thought that Streeting’s ability to talk and ‘relate’ - which are good things generally, in better people - hide his vacuousness. He’s a lightweight, a chancer.

😂😂😂

Snubbed at the G7.
Total loser.

Those pictures actually made me feel a bit sad for him.

Then I remembered how self-important, unpleasant and incompetent he is.

You’ve pretty much described every Bootneck I’ve ever met 🤣

Massive Ego is pretty much a requirement to get in the RM 😜

My LinkedIn is wall to wall people who’ve been laid off seeking new opportunities or consultancies touting for business…I see Reeves is out crowing that she’s beat inflation by torpedoing growth..‘having the right economic plan’…

They’ll never face any actual consequences for their terrible decisions except reputation damage.

Times radio - the whole house will be sniggering about Burnham challenge at PMQs while bollard’s away

He added: “And, yes, I want him to have a big role in government.”

He might get his wish.

Unfortunately.

As PM do you mean or would he be swayed by a cabinet job

Lammy is doing a terrible job in pmqs, he's yet to answer a single question and is just slinging mud with some aggressive finger pointing. Then he has the gaul to agree that the legacy of Joe Cox is that we should remember that we have more in common than divides us.

Meanwhile, Reeves looks like she's on her last nerve.

PM!

I don’t think Burnham will be happy with a cabinet position.
He’s after the top job.

Same. It’d be crazy to get 200 plus MPs campaigning for you for a mere cabinet job

The unions will decide.

I wouldn't assume Burnham will win. Like the Welsh election a lot of voters are paying lip service to one party but when it comes to the pencil and the X on the ballot paper it's much less certain

Afternoon! Long time lurker, and hater of this government here, just popping my head in as hospitality is my area of expertise. Although pubs and restaurants are struggling with customer numbers, it’s not the main issue. Plenty of places are busy, but the tax burden and additional costs from government legislation is ridiculous now. Unfortunately, you can’t just put prices up to where they need to be to maintain the same profit margin, as there is a ceiling on the prices people will pay. In most people’s minds, there is an idea of what a reasonable price for a dish is and if you go over that, you lose customers.

Hospitality has been hit by Covid (most places are still paying off debt from the lockdowns), inflation on supplies (food, drinks - compounded by higher alcohol and sugar taxes - appliances, packaging (again new recycling taxes applied to packaging, especially bottles) huge increases in energy costs, employment cost rises (most restaurants used to work on an employment cost of 30% of turnover whereas now it’s 35%, or more, due to the addition of the NI & NMW increase), higher corporation tax rate and more recently business rate relief being slashed and actual rates massively increased. I’ve been in this industry over 20 years and it has never been anywhere as bad as it is now.

I talk to a lot of other business owners in the trade and we are all either propping up businesses with our own money, or just about keeping heads above water, even the busy places. We’re just hoping we can limp along until there is a change in government and assuming that any change has to be for the better.

@carrythecan a lovely tea room announced closure yesterday in our town. DIL said their bike shop which they use all the time five bike family has folded after Forty years.

I don't know what the answer is because a landlord can halve the rent but commercial rates and wages are immovable.

@carrythecan oh believe me I know

I'm not sure if we're talking at cross purposes, but the reason why I say it's a really alarming sign is that I thought the question might be one area that could take the hit.

my mum has expressed the view that perhaps this government wants pubs In particular to close down. It's a dreadful situation.

I do think people wanting to stay at home or is one factor, but I think it's a small one compared to all the other things they're dealing with.

I'm pretty sure the main place I go to is propping it up with their own money.

I've been running about all day, I haven't seen much of what's going on

But I had a quick look to catch up and unsurprisingly, the BBC really did coach audience members in what to say.... that will be a surprise to no one! Times like this I feel very glad that I haven't done BBC or live TV or paid a license fee for ages.

@SapphireCasino oh right, I see what you mean. But, yes, I don’t think anyone is safe really, regardless of where they are. The numbers just don’t really work anymore.

It does make you wonder whether there is an ulterior motive, as they can’t be that stupid can they? But I think a lot of it, is an ingrained mentality that businesses are hiding their ill gotten gains at the expense of the poor little people that really need their help. I think it really is a condescending arrogance about how worthy they are.

@justasking111That’s awful. And that just shows how bad it is. A business that has coped with 40 years of economic ups and downs, so obviously a viable business, can’t carry on in the current climate. It’s shocking.

This guy is a star. Blew the Senedd in Wales up today. Joe Martin I love you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1A6kXYxgyT/

"Walkout in Senedd as Reform MS accused of racism sparks second row - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgmq1v6d3vo

Just when they think they surely can’t sink any lower - utterly scandalous gerrymandering

Nothing surprises me with this shower; gerrymandering is just another addition to the list of their crimes against this country.