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Friend from my group keeps copying me and putting me down - sorry it is long!

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PippaRamadge · 20/05/2026 20:07

I’ve been friends with a woman in a wider group setting for 10 years. We have a shared hobby - knitting if you must know 😆.
We have been in a WhatsApp group with 12 women since Covid. It’s a very active WhatsApp group and until recently we probably only met once a quarter or less in person despite talking every day on our phones.

One of them is quite negative but I thought nice enough to pass the time with in a pub whilst waiting for everyone else to arrive.
However I’ve been forced to become close to her by virtue of having a baby in the same academic year and living 2 streets away.
Mine born in the September and her baby born the following August.

Since then (and she has every right to) she has:

  • Joined the local mum and baby group I set up.
  • Started all of the same baby classes as me (and gone on about why they are better at the different time she does, compared to me/better for younger babies/better if you drive than go by foot/basically better if she does it)
  • Taken up a plot on the allotment I’ve been on for 15 years (and said how and why her plot is better than mine)
  • Put her daughter in the same nursery as my child, despite at first saying it was “grotty and working class” and then finding all the others nurseries full and having to “resort” to our nursery - where btw my child is very happy and thriving.
  • Booked herself onto my other hobbies - hobbies she didn’t previously share.
  • Booked herself in with my hairdresser, eyebrow woman and massage therapist.
  • Bought loads of the stuff I have bought for our house.
  • Applied for a job at my workplace - I would be her head of department.
  • Said I shouldn’t be upset about being a victim of a crime and I was making our area look bad.

Other things:

  • Slagged off my child’s hair - good luck doing your daughter’s hair when she’s 20 months and running around the house.
  • Slagged off my child’s nursery clothes, nope I’m not giving her Organic Zoo clothes to spill ravioli or paint down.
  • Slagged off nearly everyone in our mum and baby group.
  • Slagged off my child for saying the shortened version of a word they have learned.
  • Slagged off the positioning of my house on my road 🤯
  • Told me that the days she’s going to return to work are “better thought out” than the days I work.
  • Told people she “knows my dogs better” than me.
  • Told people that I don’t in fact hold the degrees that I do. My education has no impact whatsoever on my working life, so her saying that doesn’t actually cause any issues it just makes me look like a liar and I JUST DON’T GET IT.

She is pivotal to my knitting group and I have some very close friends in that group but they have NO idea she is like this because they aren’t subjected to spending time with her ALL THE TIME.

All my peace and tiny bits of “me time” are either taken up with her being there or me feeling tense fearing she will turn up somewhere I am.

Now I don’t feel like I can do to my allotment because she’s always texting to comment on my fucking weeds, meaning she has let herself through a gate and into my plot for a look around.

I don’t want to leave these baby groups because 1. I set some of them up 2. I really enjoy them and so does my child. 3. They were pivotal in helping me deal with post natal anxiety and do the same for other women that I like to support.
But she fills me with an overwhelming sense of dread.

I’m absolutely exhausted by her constantly telling me why her and her child are better than me an my child. I’m having a rough time at work and with my wider family, which is causing depression so I’m probably letting this overwhelm me more than I would before I had a baby but truthfully I’m struggling.

This evening I took my child for one last go on the roundabout in the park close to our house. She turned up and proceeded to tell me I was wrong for getting on the roundabout with my child. Blah blah fucking blah.
Even if I don’t invite her around me she just shows up and tells me why I’m wrong.

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 12:51

Mix56 · Yesterday 12:43

Loudly, in public

No way! This will only give her ammunition to create another drama. Eg why does OP hate me? What am I doing wrong?

Zov · Yesterday 13:04

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 12:51

No way! This will only give her ammunition to create another drama. Eg why does OP hate me? What am I doing wrong?

Hmmm, yes... As I said, my 'friend' who I ghosted a few years ago, turned 3 friends against me, as I was the bad guy/the villain/the BITCH. Don't give her any ammunition!

Maybe it's not cool to ghost someone as I did, but sometimes there's no alternative.

DaisyChain26 · Yesterday 13:14

Quite an effective method that I’ve found to deal with random competitive people like this is to just look at them a bit bewildered and just say a quick OK and then carry on with what you were doing: talking about.

It takes the wind right out of their sails. You haven’t reacted (which is usually what they want) and they just end up looking a little silly.
Has worked well for me in the past.

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 13:15

Ask her outright why she's so critical. If that doesn't work tell her to fuck off.

Pinkyhere · Yesterday 13:53

HarryKanesRightFoot · Yesterday 10:23

My only worry is that could cause the plant in her allotment to thrive?! Don’t plants respond quite well to poo? Lol.

Good point.
Not to derail or lower tone futhet but I was thinking the deposit could be made on some ready-to-eat crops

SproutingBee · Yesterday 15:27

All jokes aside, people like this are dangerous. You need to back away slowly. Become very boring and fade away into obscurity. Don’t give her any kind of reaction, ignore her.

NarnianQueen · Yesterday 16:42

She sounds utterly bonkers!

it’s like she knows she’s the more junior version of you (Lower in the work place, hasn’t started her own groups) so she has to put you down to “balance” things out and feel better about herself

Twisterr · Yesterday 18:29

SproutingBee · Yesterday 15:27

All jokes aside, people like this are dangerous. You need to back away slowly. Become very boring and fade away into obscurity. Don’t give her any kind of reaction, ignore her.

I agree with this. Characters like this are wired differently - their attacking and manipulative brains work at lightening speed. Do not hand her the bullets to shoot you with.

Twisterr · Yesterday 18:31

NarnianQueen · Yesterday 16:42

She sounds utterly bonkers!

it’s like she knows she’s the more junior version of you (Lower in the work place, hasn’t started her own groups) so she has to put you down to “balance” things out and feel better about herself

Some people have to push people down just to keep their own ego afloat. They are seriously unhinged, reactive and damaged. You need to look at her as a scorpion - it’s not if she will strike, it’s when.

LittlestBoho · Yesterday 19:01

Just block her? You can still engage with her in the knitting group setting if you want (I wouldn't want) but you can prevent her from blowing your phone up with texts about your scruffy allotment and working class nursery. Let her weird rants to you just fizzle out into the ether, you don't have to read them.

If she quizzes you in the group about not responding to her messages you can feign ignorance "oh my phone is having issues, you can contact me on here (the group)". With other people as witnesses she won't be such a dick, and if she is, then you can all vote to throw her out of the knitting group.

Skippinglightly · Yesterday 19:24

Yellowworm45 · Yesterday 08:23

Personally I would block her on my phone and just blank her
She's bat shit
I predict she will cause a shit load of trouble for you before this ends
People like her always do
Fingers crossed she doesn't get a job at your place of work
This thread is highly identifying..I hope you changed plenty of details

I agree with this.

Mix56 · Yesterday 20:00

Oh Lord, do not let her meet your husband

GuelderRoses · Yesterday 23:58

vanessashanessa99 · Yesterday 06:42

"You always seem so negative and pent up (insert friends name). Everything ok at home?"
I can't stand people like her. They're like dementors, changing the rooms atmosphere with their shitty comments. My husbands friend is like it. He's an only child and no matter what you say or do he's done it ten times better or 5yrs before you. Insufferable. I told him to stfu once when he was constantly trying to outdo my husbands achievements at work with his one-upping as he was annoying me that much.

Excuse me, but why would him being an only child have anything to do with it?

PippaRamadge · Today 20:25

Thank you all so much for your time and replies.

Conveniently a uni friend of mine shared a time hop photo of our graduation and captioned it with something about the subject and level (and how we’re aging at pace!)

I reshared on Instagram and then into our knitting group (we often share life things in there, or did) saying how much of a doppelgänger younger me is for my child. Everyone in the group interacted with it other than her 😆

I need to (and will) make it clear about my education. The subject of my PhD doesn’t much impact my role but the level of education I have, is one of the main reasons I hold my role and our institution depends on people giving us funding based this level of research ability.

I haven’t seen her much for the remainder of the week because I’ve been at a work conference but I’ll be practicing some comeback lines.

She has been in my house twice. Once years ago to pick up some books and last Christmas, my instinct told me them not to invite her back.

She can’t see the front of my house from her house but she can see the side of it, so I do wonder if she can see when we leave.
When she arrived in the park the other day, I do genuinely think she just happened to be there because I see her doing laps continually every day with her baby who I believe is hard to get to sleep.

She won’t be working on my team. I’ve raised it with a friend in HR as a concern but equally I don’t think she has the right sector experience.

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PippaRamadge · Today 20:30

Sorry so many typos, dealing with a screaming toddler and typing is not a strong skill set of mine.

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