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Husband insists moon landings were faked and 9/11 was a false flag secret operation the Americans did to themselves

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AmberTigerEyes · 15/04/2026 21:18

I am désolé
My husband, he tell me he really believe there has never been a moon landing and that the 9/11 attacks were faked too.
I was in New York on 9/11
He knows this
He keeps saying things that have been disproven as conspiracy theory myths.
I wonder if I should be calling for a mental crisis unit.

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BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 15:56

Mingou · 18/04/2026 15:04

Yes, very up close at the full scale exact models in the science museum. Have you?

I'm still waiting to hear from anyone whether they think all six moon landings were faked etc.

Yep.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 18/04/2026 15:58

IdentityCris · 18/04/2026 10:22

Have you thought about the fact that, to fake the moon landings, NASA would have had to rely on the hundreds of people involved and their families keeping quiet about it forever more? How do you say they achieved that?

strictly speaking why would anyone know the full story of it all, when companies build things how often does all the teams know all about the plans and different parts from different companies, same with military operations does every soilder know all the details of the operation ?

Mingou · 18/04/2026 16:12

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 15:56

Yep.

Yep you think all of the moon landings were fake? What about the remote ones? What about challenger, the ISS, mars rover, Artemis...do you think it's all fake?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 16:17

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 18/04/2026 15:58

strictly speaking why would anyone know the full story of it all, when companies build things how often does all the teams know all about the plans and different parts from different companies, same with military operations does every soilder know all the details of the operation ?

Similarly, coordinating a hoax on that scale would still require the oversight of each part in no different a way to project-managing a genuine effort would.

So you'd still need a management team to oversee fake aeronautics, one ot oversee fake astronaut training, one to oversee fake mathematics, oversight of fake fuel development, oversight of fake communications tech, and so on and so on.

It gets to the point whereby you are devoting just as much, if not more time and resources to faking it as you would be doing it for real.

So even if every single one of the people involved in the individual project areas believed what they were doing was legitimate, is the suggestion that ultimately, there was someone or a panel of someones sitting somewhere who decided "well look, we've been handed on a plate absolutely everything we need to actually put a man on the moon, but let's not actually do it, let's just pretend instead"?

If not, then the only other conclusion is that absolutely everyone involved knew it was a hoax and not a legitimate effort right from the start, and that's where this immediately falls down due to the sheer scale of lying involved and the total improbability of keeping the hoax suppressed even 50+ years later.

For example - All the people who spent months working on complex mathematics to ensure NASA got their launch trajectories, burn cycles etc spot on - why have them do all that work just for it not to actually be put into use anyway? Just for the sake of being complete and convincing? Well they were certainly doing the maths for real and came up with real solutions and real answers, so all the maths you need to go to the moon is sitting there on a plate anyway...

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 16:24

Mingou · 18/04/2026 16:12

Yep you think all of the moon landings were fake? What about the remote ones? What about challenger, the ISS, mars rover, Artemis...do you think it's all fake?

Yep I've seen the moonlander in the science museum.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 18/04/2026 16:25

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 16:17

Similarly, coordinating a hoax on that scale would still require the oversight of each part in no different a way to project-managing a genuine effort would.

So you'd still need a management team to oversee fake aeronautics, one ot oversee fake astronaut training, one to oversee fake mathematics, oversight of fake fuel development, oversight of fake communications tech, and so on and so on.

It gets to the point whereby you are devoting just as much, if not more time and resources to faking it as you would be doing it for real.

So even if every single one of the people involved in the individual project areas believed what they were doing was legitimate, is the suggestion that ultimately, there was someone or a panel of someones sitting somewhere who decided "well look, we've been handed on a plate absolutely everything we need to actually put a man on the moon, but let's not actually do it, let's just pretend instead"?

If not, then the only other conclusion is that absolutely everyone involved knew it was a hoax and not a legitimate effort right from the start, and that's where this immediately falls down due to the sheer scale of lying involved and the total improbability of keeping the hoax suppressed even 50+ years later.

For example - All the people who spent months working on complex mathematics to ensure NASA got their launch trajectories, burn cycles etc spot on - why have them do all that work just for it not to actually be put into use anyway? Just for the sake of being complete and convincing? Well they were certainly doing the maths for real and came up with real solutions and real answers, so all the maths you need to go to the moon is sitting there on a plate anyway...

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same with any military or espionage operation sometimes depending on the greater good or the risks to humaity as a whole if they didnt convince a nation etc

for the record after being a fan of the show town called eureka, im guessing they most certainly had all the tech needed

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 16:34

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 16:24

Yep I've seen the moonlander in the science museum.

Wait... are you confirming here that you believe even the Space Shuttle program was fake?

WheretheFishesareFrightening · 18/04/2026 16:36

Would I bet my life on the moon landings being real or 9/11 not being an inside job - absolutely not.

I find it a bit uninspiring that no one has bothered to go back to the moon, despite the leaps in technology since the 60s, so I’d quite like to think they were faked. I can also entirely believe the landings were real and the footage was faked. But I genuinely don’t care one way or the other.

Similar for 9/11 - so what if it was an inside job? Yes that would be devastating to geopolitics, the world economy, and the rule of society so I think it’s better to operate as though it wasn’t. Is there some interesting arguments that the US has a hand in it? yes. Do I believe they did? I think it’s a remote possibility that’s absolutely not worth me spending any time or energy thinking about.

I am sure however that the earth is round and that the royal family aren’t reptiles, but I know that governments and military intelligence and NASA know a lot of things that I don’t, and never will, and it would be naive of me to be convinced I have enough information to be certain on either side of the 9/11 or moon landing conspiracies.

cardibach · 18/04/2026 16:56

kkloo · 17/04/2026 21:50

Fine, I mistakenly thought you meant the moon landing when you said 'either of those'. It's not really relevant though in any way is it because I only posed a question to you about 9/11.

You only brought it up because you're nitpicking because you are telling people they didn't do 'simple critical thinking' when it was clearly you who hadn't.

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I clearly had. You just don’t like the outcome of my thinking.

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 16:59

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 16:34

Wait... are you confirming here that you believe even the Space Shuttle program was fake?

How have you gone from moonlander to shuttle?

cardibach · 18/04/2026 16:59

BiteSizeByzantine · 17/04/2026 22:43

Exactly. When I saw a photo of the moon lander recently I just can't buy in to it any more.
.

Way to show you know nothing about conditions on the moon…

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:01

kkloo · 17/04/2026 22:46

In my experience there was just as many on the other side who said that the covid lockdowns would never end, they were the ones who bought into all of the government messaging and all the scaremongering online and were terrified by the virus and who were telling everyone this was the 'new normal', and we'd have rolling lockdowns forever and never be seen in public again without a mask.

On the even more extreme side there's a sub on reddit about 'zero covid' or something like that, people who have been restricting movements and risk and have been living like it's March 2020, since March 2020!

I definitely saw a couple of threads on here about it last year also, people who had not gone back to living like normal and were still terrified, in one as far as I recalled the husband had started to want to go out again, or maybe it was to take a new job or something so the wife wanted to divorce him.

There are extremists on both sides, but most people aren't extreme.

What do you mean by ‘the other side’? This isn’t left/right or covid denial/covid acceptance. It’s people believing stuff that’s objectively nonsense because they’ve believed something they’ve seen online or just plain deluded themselves.

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:01

cardibach · 18/04/2026 16:56

I clearly had. You just don’t like the outcome of my thinking.

No, you clearly had not.

You said that there had been no advantage to the government from 9/11 which is factually incorrect. You implied that someone would come to that conclusion if they used 'simple critical thinking' which is BS, if they used simple critical thinking they would easily know that there was benefits to the government.

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:03

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:01

What do you mean by ‘the other side’? This isn’t left/right or covid denial/covid acceptance. It’s people believing stuff that’s objectively nonsense because they’ve believed something they’ve seen online or just plain deluded themselves.

The other side of extremity.

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 17:07

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 15:49

As I've already told you, I don't need to "go and look" because I'm already perfectly familiar with how the LEM appears outwardly, hence why I'm baffled how anyone can conclude that it isn't a credible vehicle based on nothing but appearance alone.

Look again. For arguments sake.

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 17:07

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 18/04/2026 15:49

As I've already told you, I don't need to "go and look" because I'm already perfectly familiar with how the LEM appears outwardly, hence why I'm baffled how anyone can conclude that it isn't a credible vehicle based on nothing but appearance alone.

Look again. For arguments sake.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 18/04/2026 17:09

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 17:07

Look again. For arguments sake.

The Apollo Lunar Module (LM) looks non-credible to some because its design prioritized pure function over form, resulting in an unconventional, "gawky" appearance. Its, thin aluminum walls and gold-colored insulation—often described as looking like "tin foil and duct tape"—were engineered specifically for a vacuum environment, not to handle Earth’s gravity or atmosphere.

The "non-credible" appearance is generally attributed to the following factors:

  • Weight Constraints: To reach the Moon, the LM had to be extremely lightweight, forcing engineers to use aluminum pressure walls as thin as 0.012–0.025 inches, reinforced with internal ribs.
  • No Atmospheric Requirements: Because the LEM only operated in a vacuum, it did not need aerodynamic streamlining, smooth surfaces, or a heavy heat shield like the Command Module.
  • Thermal Protection: The "foil" appearance comes from multi-layer insulation (Kapton and Mylar), designed to manage temperatures from 150c to -170c
  • . The crumpled look of the thermal blankets was intentional to reduce heat transfer.
  • Internal Pressurization: The thin hull was pressurized to about 5 psi with pure oxygen, which provided structural stability, similar to an inflated aluminum balloon.
  • Function over Aesthetics: The oddly shaped, angular design maximized visibility for the crew during landing while minimizing the material needed, as described by theApollo 9 crew as a "spider".

The fact that the LEM was never meant to operate in Earth's atmosphere meant it didn't need to look "sturdy" in a conventional sense, leading to a specialized,, and highly effective, functional design

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:11

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:01

No, you clearly had not.

You said that there had been no advantage to the government from 9/11 which is factually incorrect. You implied that someone would come to that conclusion if they used 'simple critical thinking' which is BS, if they used simple critical thinking they would easily know that there was benefits to the government.

I said there was no advantage worth the cost. But since you didn’t even bother looking at the post I replied to right at the beginning of this I’m going to assume you are arguing for the sake of it and opt out of any more time wasting. The moon landings were real. 9/11 wasn’t an inside job. There is plenty of evidence for the former and it’s pretty obvious the latter wouldn’t be necessary to achieve the ends people ascribe to it. This is the end of my conversation with you.

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:12

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:03

The other side of extremity.

There is no other side. Extreme unprovable (or disproved) views are all conspiracy lunacy.

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:15

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:12

There is no other side. Extreme unprovable (or disproved) views are all conspiracy lunacy.

Yes there is another side of extremity, what are you on about?

I even explained who they were, there are still people living like it's 2020 because they bought into the fear so much.

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:18

cardibach · 18/04/2026 17:11

I said there was no advantage worth the cost. But since you didn’t even bother looking at the post I replied to right at the beginning of this I’m going to assume you are arguing for the sake of it and opt out of any more time wasting. The moon landings were real. 9/11 wasn’t an inside job. There is plenty of evidence for the former and it’s pretty obvious the latter wouldn’t be necessary to achieve the ends people ascribe to it. This is the end of my conversation with you.

That's not what you said initially. You simply said " It makes you gullible because simple critical thinking would tell you there was no advantage to governments in either of those,"

Whether it was worth the cost is a matter of opinion, and your opinion is not fact.

Did you enjoy this exchange so much yesterday that you wanted to rehash it again today first? 🤔 I was happy to end it yesterday but you started again.

BMW6 · 18/04/2026 17:28

BiteSizeByzantine · 18/04/2026 17:07

Look again. For arguments sake.

I believe now that This poster is just trolling.

I suggest not bothering with her/him anymore.

user765847363 · 18/04/2026 17:42

kkloo · 17/04/2026 19:34

The facts show otherwise. Google is at your fingertips.

Please name your facts.

People with opinions but without facts always suggest googling. When I do that, I can only find opinions, so I'm looking forward to your facts.

Thanks

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:57

user765847363 · 18/04/2026 17:42

Please name your facts.

People with opinions but without facts always suggest googling. When I do that, I can only find opinions, so I'm looking forward to your facts.

Thanks

You can only find opinions? How strange!!

Will a page from the George Bush administrations archive suffice?
It literally came up on the first page when I searched.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/factsheets/9-11.html

MissConductUS · 18/04/2026 18:34

kkloo · 18/04/2026 17:57

You can only find opinions? How strange!!

Will a page from the George Bush administrations archive suffice?
It literally came up on the first page when I searched.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/bushrecord/factsheets/9-11.html

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The 9/11 conspiracy theories have been so thoroughly debunked by so many organizations over the years, and it's all available online.

https://www.cfr.org/articles/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories

At this point, it's like throwing tennis balls at a brick wall. You can't fix stupid.

Seven Resources Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories | Council on Foreign Relations

With the twentieth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks approaching, we recommend sources for better understanding 9/11 and its aftermath. This week: seven resources that debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories.

https://www.cfr.org/articles/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories