Husband insists moon landings were faked and 9/11 was a false flag secret operation the Americans did to themselves

[AmberTigerEyes]

I am désolé
My husband, he tell me he really believe there has never been a moon landing and that the 9/11 attacks were faked too.
I was in New York on 9/11
He knows this
He keeps saying things that have been disproven as conspiracy theory myths.
I wonder if I should be calling for a mental crisis unit.

Why do we never hear similar ravings about Ferdinand Magellan’s Pacific crossing being a hoax?

Think of the average person and half of people are more stupid than that. People are very easily persuaded by things that fit what they want to be true. And many people want to think there are powerful, shady organisations manipulating things rather than a messy set of individuals and vested interests.
It’s similar to religious beliefs in that humans cope better with life thinking there is reason behind everything. I think many conspiracy theorists are replacing religion in their need to assign events to greater powers.

So although there's clear evidence that the US government don't have to care whether they're seen to have justification for war or not, nevertheless the US government engaged in a conspiracy to murder thousands of its own civilians to provide a justification for war that they didn't need to do? A conspiracy that, if found out, would likely bring down the government?

To me, that sounds like a contradiction. How does it sound to you?

Fine, I mistakenly thought you meant the moon landing when you said 'either of those'. It's not really relevant though in any way is it because I only posed a question to you about 9/11.

You only brought it up because you're nitpicking because you are telling people they didn't do 'simple critical thinking' when it was clearly you who hadn't.

To me it sounds like a different president, different administration and different time.

Not sure how that would be a contradiction. If it were Trump for both or Bush for both you might have a point, but it wasn't.

I don't think this administration is too concerned with being brought down, I mean look at the Epstein files, Trump said 'release them all, I've nothing to hide' when there are deeply concerning allegations in there about him including the full police report where he was accused of raping and sexually assaulted a girl.
He doesn't care what gets out, he just says 'fake news'.

It's funny how it's always the moon landings people think were fake - an event that happened not long ago, on which hundreds of people must have worked and millions watched on TV. Why not pick on something else? Was Culloden (battle of) fake? Did Jane Austen really exist? Much easier to fake something outside living memory. It's like idiots who believe in reincarnation- they always claim to have been a royal or priestess in a previous life - when statistically you'd have much more likely been a peasant who died in infancy.

I've always wondered what Leif Erikson would make of the "accepted wisdom" that Christopher Columbus was the first European to set foot in the Americas.

Can imagine him being incredulous, but simulraneously being derided for being nothing more than a self-aggrandising conspiracy loon.

ok whos been watching x files ?

there is no bilderberg group

I've always wondered what the conspiracy theorists who insisted that everyone who had the vaccine would die within 18 months, or that the COVID lockdowns would never end because they were a secret plot to institute a New World Order, make of the "accepted wisdom" that what they predicted turned out to be total bollocks.

Are they incredulous, or do they realise that when they were being derided for being self-aggrandizing conspiracy loons it was because they really were self-aggrandizing conspiracy loons?

😂 I reckon they're like end-of-the-worlders. Every time Judgement Day passes as normal, they calmly set a new date and pick up where they left off.

Real-world evidence has no impact on catastrophic fantasies.

Exactly. When I saw a photo of the moon lander recently I just can't buy in to it any more.
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In my experience there was just as many on the other side who said that the covid lockdowns would never end, they were the ones who bought into all of the government messaging and all the scaremongering online and were terrified by the virus and who were telling everyone this was the 'new normal', and we'd have rolling lockdowns forever and never be seen in public again without a mask.

On the even more extreme side there's a sub on reddit about 'zero covid' or something like that, people who have been restricting movements and risk and have been living like it's March 2020, since March 2020!

I definitely saw a couple of threads on here about it last year also, people who had not gone back to living like normal and were still terrified, in one as far as I recalled the husband had started to want to go out again, or maybe it was to take a new job or something so the wife wanted to divorce him.

There are extremists on both sides, but most people aren't extreme.

What's funny about that? People often have an interest in more recent history, things that they remember or that may have happened a few decades before.

Through history there has always been events that aroused suspicion, but interests change.

There's just no way that the gang of elite pedophiles that run the planet would ever work with the military industrial complex for their own benefit. That's crazy talk!

Right, and what qualifications do you have that make you a better judge of what a Lunar landing module should look like than the people involved in conceptualising, designing, manufacturing, and coordinating the trip of the one that you don't believe looks credible?

Go and look at it right now

Just finished skimming this thread, and what stands out to me most is how intellectually superior people like to think they are. There are so many posts on this thread labelling people as unintelligent, stupid, mentally unstable, crazy, nutters etc. which ironically is a sign of low emotional intelligence.

I think we did land on the moon and I haven't done enough research into 911 to have an opinion either way. However, I'd much rather sit down and chat to a 'conspiracy theorist' than someone who throws insults around the internet and thinks they are superior to others.

I'm quite familiar with how the Apollo LEM looks.

You evidently don't believe it's credible based on how it looks alone, so you must have some notion in your mind of what you believe it ought to look like, so humour me and tell me what it is about it's appearance that leads you to believe it's not a viable vehicle?

i do like graham handcocks books

My conspiracy crown has better quality tin foil.

mines got purple diamonds

That isn't "tin foil".

Multi-layer Insulation, mostly comprising aluminised polymide on the descent stage, known as Kapton, and aluminised polyester film known as Mylar.

Funnily enough, it's purpose was actually temperature control and regulation, so it performs the same task as household tinfoil, but it isn't just plain old aluminium foil like most people have in their kitchen.

Are these the re-issues of Graham Hancock's works aimed at onanists?

no, Graham Bruce Hancock is a British author known for promoting pseudoscientific explanations of ancient civilizations and hypothetical lost lands. Hancock argues that an advanced society with spiritual technology thrived during the last Ice Age until comet impacts triggered the Younger Dryas about 12,900 years ago.