Ian Huntley has died

[Viviennemary]

That's according to BBC news. Can't say I'm sorry.

This time it did work out, considering the situation - no prison officers were hurt, and the person killed was a child murderer, so not exactly a great loss to the world. Obviously, as I said, it would be much better if prisoners weren't able to get hold of weapons - but given that this man did, it's good that he only murdered another murderer.
(Although as someone pointed out, it would be traumatic for the prison employees who witnessed it, which isn't great.)

And of course it's murder. What on earth are you talking about?

Those questions were asked at the time and the case led to the Bichard Inquiry which is more or less the foundation for the DBS system now. (As an aside, this was my first job after graduating). Not perfect or the whole solution but led to a lot of changes in how crimes that weren’t proceeded with (as happened in his case) were recorded and disclosed for jobs working with children and vulnerable adults.

I agree with this so much. The endless urge to vilify women for mens behaviour is holding our entire society back.

So far as the worst criminals are concerned, the only way of preventing it would probably be solitary confinement.

Yes probably true. The guy who did this was on a whole life tariff. Got absolutely nothing to lose. It so easily could have been a guard.

You're confusing justice with revenge. Justice is meted out by the legal system, not some no-mark with an iron bar. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not to be punished .

Yes, the man who murdered Huntley had raped and then murdered a pregnant woman. Murdering huntly was just a way of gaining more kudos for himself, a way to ascend in the hierarchy of murderers.

The attack took place in a workshop. It appears that his killer may have been on the same wing as him.

It wasn’t about retribution at all. It was just one psychopath killing another for the notoriety. And because he’s a violent scumbag.

This is such a tremendously short sighted take. It did not ‘work out’ that anyone was murdered, or on any level. You might find it a relief that a prison officer or civilian staff member wasn’t the target on this occasion, but what it actually highlights is how easy it is for ANYONE to be a target. Plenty of uniformed staff suffer horrific injuries in prison, you just don’t hear about it because they’re not already notorious.

And the logical conclusion of what you’re saying is ‘if the only person who gets hurt is someone who has done something bad, then that’s not as bad’. Which is insane. Violence towards anyone is damaging to society. But you’re ok with it. It’s quite weird.

I cried when I heard, not for him but for Holly and Jessica's families. I just hope they are left alone in this. They will be experiencing some very strong emotions and should be left alone, unless they of course want to talk.

I do not want to be a person who celebrates or takes pleasure in violence.

The man who killed Huntley was a misogynistic maniac. Is this who you want the British justice system delegated to?

Doubt even for that, usually these things happen for personal reasons or debt.

But she covered up for him. She put Holly & Jessica’s parents through 2 weeks of false hope that maybe their daughters were still alive.
And we’ll never know 100% how much she actually knew or what he told her.
How they ever thought they’d get away with the ridiculous cover up is anyone’s guess, considering Maxine and her Mum were pub crawling in Grimsby the very day it happened, & were seen by plenty of people.

That's good to hear. Thank you for updating me.

Officers may not have been physically harmed but were likely or inevitably psychologically harmed.

Which can have far-reaching consequences for the rest of their lives.

Carr represents something to me: a woman so devoid of hope from childhood that her best option, in her eyes, was to shack up with Huntley. In a truly healthy society - and I recognise this is idealism - she would have had an idea of her own worth, and the chance of a fulfilling life.

"You might find it a relief that a prison officer or civilian staff member wasn’t the target on this occasion, but what it actually highlights is how easy it is for ANYONE to be a target."

You clearly didn't read my comments, as that's exactly what I said.

And no. It's not 'insane' to be less bothered by one murderer murdering another murderer, than by a murderer murdering innocent people. I think it's insane of you to think that Huntley's murder is equally as bad as if his killer had murdered an innocent child.

He’s a child killer, I won’t sit here and say how terrible it was another prisoner murdered him, who cares ? He’s a child killer ! I will say good fucking riddance

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

You've already said this to me, and I already agreed with you?

I doubt the guards were overly protective of him tbh

It's all so barbaric and evil.
Hopefully Holly & Jessica's parents will have closure.
l doubt even his grisly death with do that though.

At long last. Now hopefully his name will disappear. It annoys me that these evil people are able to live and are remembered.