Ian Huntley has died

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That's according to BBC news. Can't say I'm sorry.

Not necessarily. For example, Robert Maudesley has spent 40 years in solitary confinement in HMP Wakefield after he killed two other prisoners on the same day.

He was moved last year to HMP Whitemoor in Cambridgeshire to their "Close Supervision Centre" still on a solitary confinement basis.

There are around 50 prisoners held in centres like this in the UK (the maximum space is for 66). All of these prisoners are there because of repeated attacks against other prisoners.

HIM? 😂

It’s not just about Ian Huntley.
It means people in our prisons are not safe from serious assaults and violence.
That includes the prisoners who are in for less serious crimes as well as the staff.

There is an awful lot wrong with the way this happened, and the fact that it even could happen. But dangerous men (it usually is men) locked up with no end in sight will always be a powder keg. And while yes the prisons are woefully underfunded and understaffed I'm not sure it is possible to remove every risk.

That said, I can't be sorry he's gone. Apparently he lived in fear of his life while inside anyway. I wouldn't be sorry if, at the start of this attack and the previous two, he felt even the tiniest flash of the terror that Holly and Jessica felt at his hands.

👏This is the best post on this topic.

Yes, we know. Let’s end the conversation now.

This

Exactly. It would be an easy solution. Just pop a tray of food in once a day and some cleaning wipes every so often. Then no other humans would need to be exposed to these monsters, ever again. They should only be allowed to focus on the evil that they have committed.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person

The only faces that should be circulated on social media and the news outlets are Holly and Jessica. They are the only ones that matter. I'm glad he had a long stint in prison before this happened. Personally, I doubt he had it hard in there, as he'd have been well protected. Good job on the person who bided their time and went in for justice. A punishment long deserved.

His name will never disappear. He will never be forgotten, as his crime was so heinous . He will be the subject of documentaries, books etc as have others who are notorious for their crimes.

Good riddance but lets not celebrate the double murderer and rapist that did it

Exactly. It must be awful for the murderers previous victims family to have this other murderer being seen as a hero of some sort.

As the investigation and her conviction in court evidenced, she was a victim of an abusive, violent and controlling relationship with Huntley who had an evidenced history of being a domestic abuser.

She was a victim of violence from him which was reported not just by her but by neighbours who witnessed it.

Pre-sentencing reports outlined the coercive controlling nature of their relationship where he had isolated and manipulated her.

She also loved him and believed he loved her and he came to her asking her to provide a false alibi as he told her, there were things in his past so that the Police would try and pin it on him but he absolutely didn't do anything to Holly or Jessica. He was desperate for her to believe him, support him and help him. And she didn't at that time, believe he was involved or capable of such heinous crimes. How many people in relationships, even abusive ones think that of their partner?

She didn't actually know or believe at that time that he did it but didn't want to lie to the Police either. But in her defence in court, she said she was frightened of him and felt backed into a corner.

Huntley is confidently giving interviews to TV crews around this time! In her mind, he's not guilty and the Police will figure that out but then what would the consequences be for he from him if she hadn't supported him and lied for him?

It was absolutely right she was convicted and served prison time despite being in an abusive relationship. Mitigating factors don't absolve anyone from responsibility for their crimes.

But that's where it should end. She shouldn't be hounded, harassed or have people on SM say she probably knew and didn't care or that she should have been executed.

Threads like this make me want to bang my head on my desk.

Why on earth do people think that Jessica and Holly' family members will now get closure? Seriously??

There isn't any closure, him being dead doesn't change anything for them. It doesn't equal justice, it won't stop his face being in the media, it won't stop people approaching them for comments, it won't bring the girls back.

There will now be a murder trial at some point within the next two years - the families will have to endure that and the media attention that it will bring.

The media will rehash the murders of the girls, their faces will be in the Press.

Huntley's mum may sue the prison service.

People will once again try and find Maxine Carr.

Huntley's mum and daughter will do Press interviews.

The media will be back in Soham.

The families of the victims of the man who murdered Huntley will also be hounded ..... this circus is only just starting back up.

It doesn't all end because Huntley has been murdered.

I don't feel happy that he's dead. The man who killed him shouldn't have had access to a pole and been in a position to attack him.

My previous response to a poster who thinks solitary/segregation is an easy solution is quoted below:

You've never experienced what goes on in seg if you think it protects the officers, inmates or the institution.

People can develop prison psychosis which drains resources.

Extreme violence. Extreme self-harm. Spitting at and and biting officers or just gnawing through their own flesh to require medical intervention. I have seen this happen.

There are dirty protests where people throw piss and shit on officers, smear it on themselves and all over their cells which someone employed by the estate has to clean up.

And every time there's a serious incident on seg or anywhere else, it drains the resources of the rest of the prison so it can go into lockdown. Visits, including essential legal and medical visits can be cancelled. Inmates who are due to attend court or essential medical appointments will have that cancelled as there aren't enough staff available.

Inmates who are usually allowed out for work or association are not allowed out because the staff available to facilitate and supervise or not available. Inmates may not get meals, medication or even toilet paper.

One of the wings in an English prison i'm familiar with has no in-cell sanitation so no toilet or sink. Inmates have to alert staff to let them out to go to the toilet but when no staff are available they have to piss and shit in cups or whatever else they have available in their cell.

He did 24 years of a 40 year minimum sentence … I hope he suffered and experienced real fear inside prison.
I’m glad he’s dead and Holly and Jessica’s parents don’t have to think about him ever getting out.

For me the death isn't about who died but the fact we cannot have a vigilante prison system where inmates take matters into their own hands. And for those who come on arguing saying he is a convicted child murderer the person who is accused of doing it was a triple murderer and rapist. I feel his victims families may feel as though he is being celebrated. The thoughts should always be with the families who have lost loved ones. This shouldn't be allowed to happen in prision, the person accused of doing this act is no better in my opinion.

I wouldn't just replicated what happens now. It would be fully segregated. The officers would be completely safe as there would be no contact. If the prisoner chooses to live in filth that is their choose. If their evil drives them mad.

I wouldn't provide medical treatment. I don't think the state should kill people but I don't think resources should be spent keeping monsters alive.

This describes my feelings on this so much more eloquently than I could. I was simply going to write that there is no justice for the families. There is no closure. There are no prison murders that will bring their daughters back.

I find the joy about this to be ghoulish and disturbing.

Well protected? Not really. He was attacked at least three times before the attack that killed him.

Please don't praise a man who raped and murdered a pregnant woman and two other people.

Why? It's one less worthless piece of shit to worry about. Huntley's better off dead, and my only concern is that whether his death was agonising enough.

It’s not closure. Huntleys crimes will always be in the media

Yes but potentially he could be allowed out in 16 years!!

Hurray! Hope he suffered.