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Labour isn't working - Thread 25

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TheNuthatch · 13/01/2026 20:25

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙 🩵

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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EmeraldRoulette · 17/01/2026 09:58

@TheNuthatch thank you
Do you know what the "right wing" protest was about please?

Pacificsunshine · 17/01/2026 10:01

That is bizarre.

TheNuthatch · 17/01/2026 10:09

EmeraldRoulette · 17/01/2026 09:58

@TheNuthatch thank you
Do you know what the "right wing" protest was about please?

Sorry I don't. I saw 4 or 5 people wearing flags but they were just standing quietly in a group.
They didn't have any banners etc.

My dc were scouring sm after they found out that I'd been to a protest. Its all on a YouTube channel called mystic media apparently. I haven't watched it, but that might help you if you're interested.

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CruCru · 17/01/2026 11:03

Re Starmer being urged to sack Streeting - I wonder if they are hoping some of the noise will be drowned out by the stuff about Jenrick. It hasn’t worked, obviously, because it’s front page of the Times and the Jenrick stuff doesn’t seem to be rumbling on.

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 11:18

Beautiful article about Iran, to give the politics pause.

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/275bb9a0004e8769

CruCru · 17/01/2026 11:22

strawberrybubblegum · 14/01/2026 14:49

"they had more positions in 14 years than the Kama Sutra. No wonder they're knackered and left the country screwed"

Yuck, yuck yuck. Completely inappropriate, but takes an even nastier edge when directed at a female leader of the opposition. That would be considered sexual harassment - and HR involved - if it was said in any other job.

I do wonder a bit who on earth is advising the PM. God knows my workplace had its ups and downs but a senior male colleague talking about the Kama Sutra to embarrass a younger female colleague (they both work in the HoC so they are colleagues, even if they don’t like it)? The sort of thing that leads to HR “having a quiet word”. Which makes me think that none of them (advisers included) have ever worked anywhere normal.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 11:23

CruCru · 17/01/2026 11:22

I do wonder a bit who on earth is advising the PM. God knows my workplace had its ups and downs but a senior male colleague talking about the Kama Sutra to embarrass a younger female colleague (they both work in the HoC so they are colleagues, even if they don’t like it)? The sort of thing that leads to HR “having a quiet word”. Which makes me think that none of them (advisers included) have ever worked anywhere normal.

He is a bit like that isn’t he. The older full of it male HR needs to have a word with.

peacefulpeach · 17/01/2026 11:38

CruCru · 17/01/2026 11:22

I do wonder a bit who on earth is advising the PM. God knows my workplace had its ups and downs but a senior male colleague talking about the Kama Sutra to embarrass a younger female colleague (they both work in the HoC so they are colleagues, even if they don’t like it)? The sort of thing that leads to HR “having a quiet word”. Which makes me think that none of them (advisers included) have ever worked anywhere normal.

I’ve just re read the quote. I thought it was crude and unprofessional at the time.

Having just re read it in your post, not only does he use the term ‘more positions than the kama sutra’ 🤢 sexual

He also uses the term ‘screwed’ sexual🤢

And ‘knackered’ . Ref ‘knackered:

  • It was formerly considered mildly rude or offensive, partly due to its conflation with "knackers" (slang for testicles) and its historical association with sexual exhaustion.

My mother can’t bear the term for this reason.

Starmer really is repulsive.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 11:40

peacefulpeach · 17/01/2026 11:38

I’ve just re read the quote. I thought it was crude and unprofessional at the time.

Having just re read it in your post, not only does he use the term ‘more positions than the kama sutra’ 🤢 sexual

He also uses the term ‘screwed’ sexual🤢

And ‘knackered’ . Ref ‘knackered:

  • It was formerly considered mildly rude or offensive, partly due to its conflation with "knackers" (slang for testicles) and its historical association with sexual exhaustion.

My mother can’t bear the term for this reason.

Starmer really is repulsive.

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He’s utterly repugnant on every level.

I’d love to see Kemi as the next female PM instead. Wash away his male crassness.

Januaryescape · 17/01/2026 12:33

His comms team are pants - they can’t seem to hit the right note. I saw the times Streeting piece - starmer’s done post May. Everyone knows it surely…

redange · 17/01/2026 12:33

It is very telling we see in the USA the overreaction of ICE to immigrants who on the whole probably want to buy in to America and its culture. In doing so they are deporting people alongside (baddies) who have lived and worked 20-30 years in the USA, bringing up children and themselves who have embraced America.

This, is completely different to the problems with immigration we have in the UK at present. In, contrast we have hoards of undocumented illegal immigrants who have no intention of adopting to British Culture or standards of behavior We also have large scale 'Legal' immigration that is not, the type of 'Skilled' immigration the UK desperately needs.

Thus, we unlike the USA need to be removing, many people who have no present benefit or future benefit to the country. either though culture or skills. However, in contrast we can't even Deport 'Rapists' because their children like Chicken Nuggets !

For the record, the death of Rene Good is tragic, she was 'very' stupid though in how she refused to get out of the car when ICE Officers told her to . America, of course has a different culture and when a Car makes a sudden move towards a Policeman (whether intentional or possibly in this case stupidity, an officer will shoot at the car ).

DancingFerret · 17/01/2026 13:03

I agree with you about Rene Good, @redange. From what I saw, she was goading the officer, but she didn't deserve to die because of her behaviour. I do wonder why he didn't shoot out the tyres on her vehicle rather than her.

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 13:04

TheNuthatch · 17/01/2026 09:38

Me too. He's not holding back is he.
This will be the next u turn.

How can anyone defend this government?

I sometimes go onto threads on here where the Labour fans all line up to post about how great Labour is, and how well they're doing.

I can't work out if they're genuinely delusional, or thinking that if they keep the positive spin going, that others will believe them. The polls showing their unpopularity aren't lying, so they might as well stop plugging away with the Pollyanna comms!

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 13:12

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 13:04

I sometimes go onto threads on here where the Labour fans all line up to post about how great Labour is, and how well they're doing.

I can't work out if they're genuinely delusional, or thinking that if they keep the positive spin going, that others will believe them. The polls showing their unpopularity aren't lying, so they might as well stop plugging away with the Pollyanna comms!

I think they just put more people off Labour. The opposite of what they’re after.

Julen7 · 17/01/2026 13:15

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 13:04

I sometimes go onto threads on here where the Labour fans all line up to post about how great Labour is, and how well they're doing.

I can't work out if they're genuinely delusional, or thinking that if they keep the positive spin going, that others will believe them. The polls showing their unpopularity aren't lying, so they might as well stop plugging away with the Pollyanna comms!

If you mention polls to them usually they don’t believe that particular poll, it’s right wing biased or similar.

Hoping when Labour are wiped out in May elections the realisation will finally dawn.

Actually probably not.

Januaryescape · 17/01/2026 13:27

The sad thing about the ICE shooting of a good is they both clearly panicked - she was trying to flee and he went for kill shots.

Only one of them was a paid, trained professional…

i do agree re here - I’m a moderate, pro immigration in general person but when you can’t deport rapists because of their human rights, something is rotten.

SpaceRaccoon · 17/01/2026 13:29

I'm actually also very pro-immigration if it's done in the right way, I just don't think it has been for a long time in the UK, and much of the West at all really.

Not being able to get rid of highly undesirable people is clearly a nonsense.

CruCru · 17/01/2026 13:32

Julen7 · 17/01/2026 13:15

If you mention polls to them usually they don’t believe that particular poll, it’s right wing biased or similar.

Hoping when Labour are wiped out in May elections the realisation will finally dawn.

Actually probably not.

I remember a time when Labour had just lost a GE that they had hoped to win (many years ago). Their supporters kept posting about how awful all these people had been for not voting Labour.

It’s not a great look, blaming the general population.

Julen7 · 17/01/2026 13:39

CruCru · 17/01/2026 13:32

I remember a time when Labour had just lost a GE that they had hoped to win (many years ago). Their supporters kept posting about how awful all these people had been for not voting Labour.

It’s not a great look, blaming the general population.

i can well imagine, it will probably happen next time. Will be the people’s fault, not Labour’s.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 15:21

Julen7 · 17/01/2026 13:39

i can well imagine, it will probably happen next time. Will be the people’s fault, not Labour’s.

Hopefully there’ll be so few in their corner at that point it’s just a bleep.

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 15:55

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 15:21

Hopefully there’ll be so few in their corner at that point it’s just a bleep.

I can't see any of the hardcore ones giving it up easily.

38thparallel · 17/01/2026 16:37

Will be the people’s fault, not Labour’s.

@Julen7 I remember when Corbyn was soundly beaten in the 2019 election, there was a view that Corbyn had lost because he wasn’t left wing enough.
Hmm…..the Labour leader wasn’t left wing enough so people voted Tory instead?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 17/01/2026 16:44

38thparallel · 17/01/2026 16:37

Will be the people’s fault, not Labour’s.

@Julen7 I remember when Corbyn was soundly beaten in the 2019 election, there was a view that Corbyn had lost because he wasn’t left wing enough.
Hmm…..the Labour leader wasn’t left wing enough so people voted Tory instead?

That reminds me of Labour posters on MN who argued vociferously for Corbyn and now say that he was terrible, extreme and should never have been leader.

I have a sneaking respect for those Labour supporters who’ve not shifted and who have always rejected Starmer as far too right wing (not the wise after the fact ones who’ve had to accept that Starmer’s fucking useless but who will never admit that they blindly argued the opposite until reality bit them.)

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 16:58

Tbf after Corbyn Labour tried to learn from it by going with Starmer. Not a bad idea to move towards the centre (although still a mash up of crap spite rather than actual centrist stuff) except he’s so widely loathed which is a bit of a problem 😬

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