Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

More needs to be done to support disabled people in workplaces to access reasonable adjustments to allow them to work.

Did you actually read my post or just jump in on the attack? As I said and I’ll repeat. The system is not fit for purpose across the board.

Oh now you have - hence the major edit. Edited now as my post doesn’t make sense.

Thank you.

I do think you're wrong about the money. That money won't reach classrooms. Money isn't the problem, they have plenty of money, they're just currently wasting it. Millions every year fighting so that they don't have to support children. Why will that change?

The govt can change the law but local authorities and schools already flout the law up and down the country every single day. It's against the law to off roll children to avoid supporting them. It's against the law to restrain a child unless in very certain circumstances. It's against the law to discriminate against disabled people. It's against the law for LAs to fail to provide section 19 provision. All of those happened to my son. Nobody gives a shit. Complaints get us nowhere. They operate outside the law and there's not a damn thing parents can do about it, even more so if the school is part of a trust.

Theres no reason to trust that that money will be used to effectively support children because they're not listening to the people who know best where the system is broken and what children need - the parents. If more money was the problem, why can't they use that money they waste on tribunals to help children now? The reason the process to obtain support costs so much money is a deliberate choice of the system.

Also the reason so many EHCPs are needed is because so many schools simply say no to providing SEN Support. That's supposed to be the first line of support, with EHCPs then being applied for if SEN Support fails.

But parents currently have no way to compel a school to provide SEN Support. Absolutely none. So EHCP is the only only option. Take away EHCPs, take away a parent's right to request one, and school says no? What then? What happens to your tiny vulnerable 5 year old who just needs a tiny little reasonable adjustment to be able to access school, say... Being allowed a toilet pass, and the staff say no, and you have no route available to force them to do otherwise?

Well then you'll have more teachers on a power trip like the SLT at my kids school pushing more and more children into mental health crisis. If you fail to force your child to attend? You'll be fined and prosecuted. After all, parents are the problem.

This is already happening. How will these proposed changes make things better and help children? They won't. Those billions will disappear, like the millions already wasted on fighting against the legal rights of vulnerable children.

And those children grow up to become adults, who without an education won't be able to work.

Yeah i did, sorry 💐 - i misunderstood your post so i reworded it to make my point in different context.

To answer the original question, yes I do, as do many of my friends and family.

900+ posts into the thread, I still can't find a party I want to vote into power.

I’d genuinely like to hear why. Do you dislike all the parties for different reasons, or the same broad ones? If you knew it wouldn’t be “throwing away your vote,” would you be happier voting for a smaller party, on either the conservative or left-wing side? I do feel that some of Reform’s popularity is because people are sick of feeling stuck in a two-horse race when they don’t fully agree with Labour or the Tories.

You absolutely don’t have to answer! I know everyone is really busy, and I know political beliefs are very private for some people. I’m just curious.

I will vote for the most competent local candidate - unless Labour. Literally anyone else who can impress.
Our current MP is good so if they stand again I’ll vote for them.

@FFSToEverythingSince2020 . Assuming you are genuine, I will answer. I think the Tories overdid austerity, without considering that scaling/spending back spending was also taking money out of wage packets, because most professionals have monthly salaries and don't get overtime no matter how late they work.

However, the biggest issue was working tax credit, invented by Gordon Brown, which shifted responsibility for paying wages for hours worked to a tax-payer funded top up. In effect, a subsidy from the taxpayers to the supermarkets which are the big winners from this.

I wasn't too upset when Labour won the election in July 2024, because we needed a change. I listened to RR's first budget and I was shocked at the vindictiveness. Attacks on older people and farmers, and even more at the possible changes to DC pension rules. For the record, since 1985 I have never had a job with a solid pension, so my direct contribution pension fund/SIPP has been my saving pot too. Actually I have been SE since 1990; no ssp nor maternity benefit. When my last employer was declared bankrupt in 1990, the receivers did a sensible deal on the money that had been contributed to the pension.

As far as I can see, all political parties hate trying to deal with small businesses because there is no easy one size fit. I have read the full thread attentively. I know that I am going to pay more than most because we have a nice house we bought 28 years ago, but it isn't a mansion, just a comfortable 4 bed. The council tax (band E) is £3500 annually. Our council tax rate is close to the top of the scale nationally, but wages here in the SW are among the lowest nationally.

I absolutely accept that taxation is the price we all pay to live in the decent society we want. Nobody likes to pay it, but it is the price. However, having postponed having my only child until I could afford them at 43, I am not enthusiastic about removing the two child cap. Everyone knew it was going, and people had the choice to have only the family they could afford to support. So I am very peevish about the removal of the two-child cap. Of course I feel synpathetic to the kids who are hurt as a result, but it was their parents' decison to have them and therefore it should be entirely their responsibility to pay for them, other than in cases of sudden death.

Sorry, all this is a bit random and scattershot, but I hope it helps you understand why I am currently minded to write NONE OF THE ABOVE on my ballot paper. No political party is offering our family anything I want.

For the record, I am planning to spoil my ballot paper. I shan't be voting for Labour, Reform or the Green Party. It will come down to the Lib Dems (unlikely) or the Tories (also unlikely). Might vote for Mebyon Kernow as a protest but heaven forbid that they won.

Yes, I’m completely genuine, and I agree with 99% of what you’re saying, and please don’t worry about it being scattershot. I’m voting Lib Dem, yes, but I too feel either left out or targeted by a lot of both Tory and Labour decisions. And I know the Lib Dems have plenty of faults, too. There’s no party that I completely agree with. I admit that I may swinging to Lib Dem only because they haven’t been in power to fuck things up for quite a while, and because I disagree less with their positions than Reform’s, but that’s kind of a shite choice, I know - it’s terrible to feel like no political party is looking out for YOU in particular, and a bit disenfranchised. I’m sorry, and I do hope everything works out okay for you. Thanks so much for taking the time to answer me; I really appreciate it.

EDIT: typo

I'm not that bothered that no party is out there to look after my personal interests but I think most MPs are incompetent hacks who got the intro by sucking up the party line and regurgitating it.

Honestly, cut the size of the House of Commons in half, and pay twice the money per MP. £90k per annum, although it sounds wonderful if you are on the average £38k pa, really does not make an attractive salary for a high flyer, Frankly, I earned that almost 30 years ago, before I became a mom. We need to entice talented people into politics.