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Bondi beach mass shooting

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habin · 14/12/2025 10:00

Just horrendous. There was a big Jewish gathering on the beach. Jewish festival goers targeted by two gunmen. At least ten people dead according to police.

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MeouwKing · 14/12/2025 21:03

Hesse · 14/12/2025 20:58

There are secular people who genuinely believe trans women are women

Good point, well-made.

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/12/2025 21:05

The father had 6 firearms linked to him. How is that allowed?

2021x · 14/12/2025 21:09

mouthpipette · 14/12/2025 21:00

I would love to know what was in the minds of those that carried out the killings. Obviously a hatred of Jews, but where did that come from ? What have they been told ? What did they find out for themselves? What were their sources?What turns people into cold blooded murderers ?

That's what needs addressing.

A question I always want to ask people is "Is there anything I can say that will change your mind on this". This is a good way for establishing how strongly held their beliefs are and what in reality is acheivable.

For example there is nothing that anyone could say or do to make me think there is any type of god or supernatural force (including Karma). Since these beliefs do not theaten anyone elses existence, they need no caveats or oversight.

For the people that committeed this atrocity- it may be unrealistic to remove the hatred/fear of jewish people all together but you can certainly discuss whether murder is ever acceptable in Islam.

PinkPanther57 · 14/12/2025 21:19

MeouwKing · 14/12/2025 20:14

I have never understood the virgins thing. Surely it would be a lot more fun to have 72 sexully experienced partners.

Billy Connelly springs to mind ‘I want whores’.

echt · 14/12/2025 21:20

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/12/2025 21:05

The father had 6 firearms linked to him. How is that allowed?

The link I put up on page 24 of this thread shows how this can happen.

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/12/2025 21:28

echt · 14/12/2025 21:20

The link I put up on page 24 of this thread shows how this can happen.

Wow:

'For example, data from the New South Wales firearm register shows that in Sydney, there are more than 70 individuals who own more than 100 firearms.'

That is ridiculous. Clearly a national registry is needed.

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 21:29

@Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim that seems to be a regular theme today from statements given.

Who looks down a sight and murders a child on a beach? Because they are Jewish. And justifies in their head it’s what their god demands?

Damnloginpopup · 14/12/2025 21:30

MeouwKing · 14/12/2025 20:40

All these religions contain nonsense. Virgin births, flying donkeys, golden tablets being delivered by angels. Not one religious text mentions dinosaurs. All the texts are supposed to have been inspired by an all-knowing god that appears to have known no more than humans knew at the time. Please, can we have a truly secular society?

Yeah.

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dapsnotplimsolls · 14/12/2025 21:32

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 21:29

@Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim that seems to be a regular theme today from statements given.

Who looks down a sight and murders a child on a beach? Because they are Jewish. And justifies in their head it’s what their god demands?

Because they've de-humanised them a long time ago. Apparently they're both from Pakistan - I don't think peace, love and harmony towards the Jews is commonly taught in schools there.

CypressGrove · 14/12/2025 21:42

NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 18:16

So as a muslim, people educating me about 'radical islam' is unbelievable. The ideology you refer to as 'radical islam' is actually referred to as 'khawaraj'. These people have existed within muslims for centuries. They pray, fast, give charity. In fact the only way to differentiate them from a normal practising muslim is when and if you ever hear there opinions and believes on certain in regards to our faith. For example if you commit a sin such a stealing you are a disbeliever. You deserve the worst punishment imaginable. Essentially they are insane extremist and yes very frightening. Our prophet decribed them as the dogs of hellfire. They rain terror across muslim countries. Somalia, Iraq, Iran, and syria are some with large group. They mainly target normal muslims as they believe we are the most sinful and deserve the most punishment. Its simple, if you don't agree with my extemist views you are a disbeliever and deserve death.

Many countries have done a great job of supressing these groups of people. The way to do it is ensure a correct and clean understanding of islam. Thats why these groups do not operate in saudi, UAE , Oman etc. From a young age, people in these countries understand Islam and most importantly understand the horrors of the 'khawaraj'. If they do exist they are imprisoned and punished. There are many ways to tackle 'khawarajs', but without the acknowlegdment and understanding of these groups of people, the western world will always struggle to get a hold. Muslims are very isolated in the UK, those that understand the religion and can effectively combat 'khawaraj' are often not given the right tools, platform and worry about falling into the hands of islamaphobia. We obviously do not help ourselves either. Many muslims do not learn the basics of their faith and some are easily radicalised into believing that terror is normal - hence muslim terrorist carrying out disgusting crimes against humanity. And the reality is that there are just truly evil humans on this earth in any groups of people.

But the whole reason i am writing this, is i just wished people would actually read about islam and understand it better. Too many people in this country careless to understand what 'radical islam' actually means. What does islam say about this? What did the Prophet teach? How should they be dealt with in islam? What does islam say about mass murder or murder?

Using labels such as 'radical islam' and essentially subtly categorising muslims ( lets be honest practising muslims with thobes and niqabs) under this label is incorrect and unfair. Radical islamist and normal muslims can look the same, dress the same etc. The difference is what they think and believe fundamentally. Whether they are filled with rage and hate. How they views otherwise that do not have the same beliefs as them, etc.

The thing is people don't really care and have had enough. It's not radical Catholics mowing down innocent people on a beach is it.

RainbowBagels · 14/12/2025 21:45

ParmaVioletTea · 14/12/2025 11:49

This.

I wish all my kind friends who demonstrate for Palestine would understand this.

Yes, I mean, do they even know what 'globalise the Intifada means? They are calling for 'global uprisings' against the Jews. So some OAP's on a day out cheering people calling calling for global terrorism! Do they think this is just a catchy phrase?

OneGreySeal · 14/12/2025 21:47

CypressGrove · 14/12/2025 21:42

The thing is people don't really care and have had enough. It's not radical Catholics mowing down innocent people on a beach is it.

It is actual radical Judaism that’s doing that if you take a look at the beach in Gaza. Extremists exist in all factions I’m afraid but that won’t fit your narrative ?

mouthpipette · 14/12/2025 21:48

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 21:29

@Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim that seems to be a regular theme today from statements given.

Who looks down a sight and murders a child on a beach? Because they are Jewish. And justifies in their head it’s what their god demands?

How much of it is their God, and how much of it is blind/misguided hatred?
Be interesting to know how they expressed their faith. Effectively, how frum they were. Or just violent psychopaths.

OneGreySeal · 14/12/2025 21:48

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NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 21:50

HappyFace2025 · 14/12/2025 13:24

You are so very wrong. No Jews have ever retaliated against Muslims after horrific attacks like this one in Australia and the recent one in Manchester or even those in the US. Jews are not violent people.

I mean what is happening in Gaza. Is it not a genocide? Who is commiting this genocide? Zonist in israel are actively commiting a genocide by UN definitions. I think a genocide is a bit more than violencw. So yeah jews kill, muslims kill and guess what so do Christians.

RainbowBagels · 14/12/2025 21:52

CypressGrove · 14/12/2025 21:42

The thing is people don't really care and have had enough. It's not radical Catholics mowing down innocent people on a beach is it.

The thing is, in Muslim countries, these people are sanctioned. They understand the different Muslim sects and understand whats at stake if these people are indulged. They kill far more Muslims than Western forces do or even than they kill non Muslims. The Western idiots banging on about Western forces are supporting people who kill Muslims in their hundreds every day around the world. In the West its all 'Oh its nothing to do with real Islam- its bad people using Islam as an excuse' But these people are radicalised by Islam. They have no fear of being killed because they want to go to heaven and shag 72 virgins. To deny Islamist extremism and just excuse it as 'nothing to do with Islam ' means you cannot get to the root of the problem.

OneFunBrickNewt · 14/12/2025 21:54

HildegardP · 14/12/2025 20:00

It happens to be something untrue that you've been told & chose to believe.
Why you choose to believe it is entirely a matter for what we shall lightly call "your conscience".

BTW, the once-thriving Jewish community of Algeria has now withered to an estimated 50-200 individuals as a result of antisemitic violence & discrimination.

In Morocco, what was a large & thriving Jewish community established since Antiquity has shrunk to a couple of thousand for the same reason.

Tunisia, where the El-Ghriba Synagogue was known as "the Jerusalmen of North Africa" & attracted Jewish pilgrims from around the world, had a Jewish population of around 100,00 in the middle of the last century. It now has only around 1,500 Jews because of antisemtic violence & discrimination.

I note you don't mention Egypt, perhaps because you know that what was a large Jewish population, part of Egyptian life for millenia, is now less than a hundred people, mostly old ladies in the two major cities. Ask the Muslim Brotherhood why.

To deal with the rest of N Africa, the only Jews in Kuwait are foreigners, the last of Sudan's tiny Jewish community left in the 70s for the same reasons that so many Jews have quit Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt & Morocco, there are (barely) a handful of Jews left in Djibouti, the Adenite community there having, with commendable prescience, made aliyah decades ago. There is no resident Jewish community in Western Sahara, which leaves us just Libya. There, the Jews were almost entirely driven out after Independence in the 50s. A few individuals held out, hoping for better times, but the last Jew fled Libya in 2003.

Shall we do Yemen next? Or Afghanistan? Perhaps Syria? Or would you prefer Jordan, with its laws prohibiting Jews from citizenship or the ownership of property?

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I don't understand the personal attack?
There are some (very) small communities of Jews in North Africa.
Israeli Arba citizens in Israel have fewer rights than Israeli Jews in Israel both (no right of return) on paper and in reality (harassment by authorities).
The Earth goes around the sun.

All of these facts are true. Throwing insults around doesn't make them not true.

sunshinestar1986 · 14/12/2025 21:54

HappyFace2025 · 14/12/2025 17:19

This thread is about the atrocity against Australian Jews in Sydney. Stop derailing it and show some sympathy for those who have been affected by terrorists' actions.

Was I talking to you?
I was replying to a specific person who wanted to know why radical Jews didn't commit actions like this,
I kindly pointed out that the they most certainly do.

EasternStandard · 14/12/2025 21:55

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What happened at Bondi today if not that?

CypressGrove · 14/12/2025 21:55

RainbowBagels · 14/12/2025 21:52

The thing is, in Muslim countries, these people are sanctioned. They understand the different Muslim sects and understand whats at stake if these people are indulged. They kill far more Muslims than Western forces do or even than they kill non Muslims. The Western idiots banging on about Western forces are supporting people who kill Muslims in their hundreds every day around the world. In the West its all 'Oh its nothing to do with real Islam- its bad people using Islam as an excuse' But these people are radicalised by Islam. They have no fear of being killed because they want to go to heaven and shag 72 virgins. To deny Islamist extremism and just excuse it as 'nothing to do with Islam ' means you cannot get to the root of the problem.

And we need to stop importing these problems into western countries.

RainbowBagels · 14/12/2025 21:56

NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 21:50

I mean what is happening in Gaza. Is it not a genocide? Who is commiting this genocide? Zonist in israel are actively commiting a genocide by UN definitions. I think a genocide is a bit more than violencw. So yeah jews kill, muslims kill and guess what so do Christians.

So Australian people deserve to die because they are of the same ethnicity as some people conscripted into the army of a completely different country?

sunshinestar1986 · 14/12/2025 21:56

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Are you talking about Europeans?
Invaded everywhere

EmpressOfTheThread · 14/12/2025 21:59

sunshinestar1986 · 14/12/2025 21:56

Are you talking about Europeans?
Invaded everywhere

I don't think colonialism has been limited to Europeans!
I think she was referring to the Medieval Islamic Empire which actually got as far as Spain and Portugal.

NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 21:59

RainbowBagels · 14/12/2025 21:56

So Australian people deserve to die because they are of the same ethnicity as some people conscripted into the army of a completely different country?

Wait who said that? What are you saying i am justifying terrorism. No no human being should be murdered or killed. Please do not make things up.
I was responding to a post that said jews aee no violent people. Violent people exist everywhere within every religion.

sunshinestar1986 · 14/12/2025 22:00

Beachtastic · 14/12/2025 19:46

I guarantee you the ideology of the khawaraji is discussed and often talked about. The dangers etc. The fact that you have not heard of the term 'khawaraj' proves my point. In fact i have never heard the term used in any media outlet in this country in my 28 years of living. Why???
The message is not reaching the masses. Hell, i guarantee you hardly anyone in this discussion knows what the term even is.

You're right, it's so important for us Westerners to understand all this better. I'm curious to know, who do you blame for our ignorance? The media, for not reporting what is widely shared in the Muslim community? Imams, for speaking in closed circles for fear of consequences? Both? Something else?

Collectively, we need to get a grip on all this.

What u on about?
If a Christian punches someone in, I dunno, Nigeria
Is it a Christian person's fault in the UK?
Like are you ok in the head?

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