Bondi beach mass shooting

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Just horrendous. There was a big Jewish gathering on the beach. Jewish festival goers targeted by two gunmen. At least ten people dead according to police.

Not just murdering Jews in the US. What about the attack in Manchester on Yom Kippur? And yet people march every week making the centre of London and other cities unsafe for Jews. Banners like this being carried. Well this is what they want. Globalise the intifada, murder Jews. Well they've got what they want.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dz7r708dxo
What has Germany done to deserve this? They gave shelter to a million Syrians in 2015.

yes it is.

I know this thread is turning into the usual bun fight, but honestly, my eyes are full of tears watching that incredible man, Ahmed al Ahmed, wrestle an armed terrorist’s gun away from him. Putting his own life at risk to save others. A brave soul. The footage of him sitting on the ground being tended to shows an ordinary man. Except he’s anything but ordinary.

@Greysowhat Did you read the original now deleted post made by @Whenlifegiveslemons ?

If yes, I fail to understand how you, or anybody of sound mind could not read my post, in response to theirs, as proportionate. I have not wished them harm, I just refuse to accept such vile, inflammatory, disgraceful comments literally moments after such horrific event play out on tv.
I am grateful to MNHQ for deleting the post as it was in all honesty the most deeply offensive I have ever read on here and has no place in a civilised society. If we are to have any chance in this awful world right now, we must stop ignoring our history and thus stop permitting this kind of offensiveness being in any way acceptable for public posting.
So I stand by my comment, it all boils down to the "gif you have nothing nice to say, say nothing", which in today's context surely should be basic enough for even @Whenlifegiveslemons to follow?

Forgiveness is greatly assisted by apologies though, so there's that too... I can wait....

Hey Mumnset will you delete this comment or is it okay because its hate speech directed towards muslims

You are so very wrong. No Jews have ever retaliated against Muslims after horrific attacks like this one in Australia and the recent one in Manchester or even those in the US. Jews are not violent people.

My Jewish friends in London won’t go into the city centre as they don’t feel safe. Happening right now in the UK. Shameful

The event targeted was celebrating a Jewish religious holiday. Just join the dots!

Honestly I’m just starting to think that religion (any and all flavours) is the real problem here

PP is talking about radical Islam.

@NewmumOct it s not hate speech against Muslims. It’s a fact that it’s Islamist terrorist.
maybe you need to learn the difference between the two 🙄

What's been happening in Gaza then? That looked pretty violent to me.

huh. My post in response to the person being so dismissive of my parents real fears has been deleted. Interesting.

Are we allowed to say Jewish people feel afraid on here?

It actually is true for the ones that happen on my work campus (a big university). Their Twitter page actually states their goal is to eradicate Israel and send all Israelis back to Europe. The ones who aren’t dead in the intifada of course.

and regardless of original intent, what has happened is endless fear for Jews worldwide. What has happened is my 9 year old being bullied at school and then physically attacked a couple years later by a group of teenagers in the hallway of her high school yelling ‘free Palestine’ in her face and surrounding her. What has happened is swatstikas on my dad’s synagogue with a Palestinian flag and my son’s friend not being allowed to attend his birthday party because we are Jewish and he is Muslim. These have all happened after this horrible marches and they have targeted my family as we are Jewish. We aren’t representing Israel, we are Jewish.

I don’t think people really understand what it’s been like for over 2 years now. It’s endless and exhausting and so, so sad.

Any and all religions are a problem, all in the same way and to the same extent?

it’s a criticism of radicals islam.
This BBC article from TWELVE years ago, warns about the danger of radical islam:
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22640614.amp

@BadgernTheGardenthat was not normal people attacking Muslims over terror attacks in the community and you know that!

Mask’s slipped

@NewmumOct you seem to be conflating radical Islam with Muslims in general. Some people would see that as hate speech.

HNRTFT but am absolutely horrified by this atrocity.I was at Bondi 2 weekends ago and it was the last place I would ever have expected to have this kind of terrorism.My thoughts are with everyone who were involved in this carnage.Absolutely terrible 😔

I don’t disagree.

That was an attack inside the borders of the Jewish state of Israel. The government of Israel took action. What would our government had done following a similar raid in its citizens? Who knows? And I’m happy to debate the rights or wrongs of Israel’s actions.
But don’t make the rookie error of conflating the actions of a state with the (non) actions of millions of Jews who live peacefully throughout the world.
Astonished that you cannot tell the diffwrwnce. But then that’s the problem isn’t it?

This is not a matter of whataboutism
I am responding to the statement that said Islam is not compatible to the west.

Over 2 million muslims call the UK their home and Islam is their faith. So you are saying that the 2 million in the UK and the 1 billion people in the world are the cause of what exactly?
Please don't forget your history and your legacy and your actions and continued actions in the 20th and 21st century.

We are also going to a public event this afternoon. We've been assured that CST and the police will he present. I'm loathe to cancel as we have the right to celebrate. But we should be able to celebrate without fear.