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Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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TheNuthatch · 03/12/2025 14:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 16/12/2025 17:40

Upstartled · 16/12/2025 16:53

God, we get some boundary-less, deficient weirdos on this thread.

The employment rights bill is such a colossal act of self sabotage - the Lord's have given them an out to walk away from this and use them as the scapegoat - idiot Rayner won't be deterred from ballooning youth unemployment though.

Yep. Spot on.
This on the day its announced that unemployment has reached 5.1%.

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Upstartled · 16/12/2025 17:43

And the ONS has youth unemployment at 16% 😬

TheNuthatch · 16/12/2025 17:48

Upstartled · 16/12/2025 17:43

And the ONS has youth unemployment at 16% 😬

Bloody hell. I hadn't seen that figure. 16%!

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Upstartled · 16/12/2025 18:01

TheNuthatch · 16/12/2025 17:48

Bloody hell. I hadn't seen that figure. 16%!

I know. They are getting hammered. And,iirc, this is a figure that excludes those who are not obligated to work. So, this 16% youth unemployment figure excludes the ever increasing number of young people who are on long term sick.

DancingFerret · 16/12/2025 18:14

NoWordForFluffy · 16/12/2025 17:05

I hate to correct you, but it's Chas and Dave!

As for Rayner and this Bill? 🙄 She's an idiot.

Always happy to be corrected. Sam and Dave were the duo who performed 'Soul Man'. I can remember my mother jigging round the kitchen to it.

Back on track, while the youth unemployment figure is dire, it also includes those who, for whatever reason, will do all they can to avoid the tedium and restrictive hours of a proper job. I can't see how Rayner's bill will help that particular problem at all.

Pacificsunshine · 16/12/2025 18:37

ONS data shows public sector pay up 7.6% while the private sector limps along at 3.9%. At the same time, payroll jobs are falling again, down 187,000 since Labour took office!

I doubt I will even get 3.9%! How much do you think the junior doctor payrise may have skewed this?

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 19:19

TheNuthatch · 16/12/2025 17:48

Bloody hell. I hadn't seen that figure. 16%!

China stopped reporting theirs when it reached 20%…

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 19:20

Britain’s economy would face a “juddering explosion” if the Government remains on its current debt path, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has warned.
Professor David Miles, a member of the OBR’s Budget Responsibility Committee, said projections on the public finances were “very worrying indeed”, warning that at current levels the ratio of debt to GDP would eventually surpass 300pc.

It comes as Rachel Reeves faces mounting scrutiny over the state of the public finances following her Budget plans last month, which the OBR has warned will push up government borrowing further.

Prof Miles told the House of Lords economic affairs committee: “We do show pictures that are very worrying indeed about our long-term fiscal sustainability.
“Indeed, we’ve argued for a few years now that on current tax and spending settings, the UK is almost certainly on an unsustainable path.

“And indeed we show projections on the stock of debt to GDP rising, several decades down the road, to something approaching 300pc.

“That’s not a forecast. That couldn’t happen because there’d be some juddering explosion some way down the road if you were on that path.”

Upstartled · 16/12/2025 19:22

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 19:19

China stopped reporting theirs when it reached 20%…

Perhaps it will go the way of Labour's membership figures?

justasking111 · 16/12/2025 19:22

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 19:19

China stopped reporting theirs when it reached 20%…

I seem to remember the Spanish young rioting when their unemployment statistics reached a high like this.

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You only left a page ago!

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This is proving to be quite a lengthy farewell.

Legolava · 16/12/2025 22:19

I thought you were leaving? Until the next time you post again, under another name ofc.

Legolava · 16/12/2025 22:20

Pacificsunshine · 16/12/2025 18:37

ONS data shows public sector pay up 7.6% while the private sector limps along at 3.9%. At the same time, payroll jobs are falling again, down 187,000 since Labour took office!

I doubt I will even get 3.9%! How much do you think the junior doctor payrise may have skewed this?

The public sector pay rises have well and truly been used to hide what is going on.

SpaceRaccoon · 16/12/2025 22:43

Apparently there are to be free TV licenses for those on benefits, as Labour's latest brilliant notion.

Pacificsunshine · 16/12/2025 23:05

Perhaps Trump will bankrupt the BBC and we won’t have to pay for that anymore! 🤷🏻‍♀️

More seriously, perhaps the BBC should sell off its entertainment division, and just keep a slimmed down version of the news. We could raise money and reduce the licence fee by more than half. Looks like a win/win to me.

redange · 16/12/2025 23:24

I would love to just get in to Parliament and the next day announce the immediate cessation of the BBC Licence Fee . Straight out of the Blue, not in any mandate just imagine the number of 'old' left wing farts in shock. I imagine the outrage from Journalists who have never had to worry about any story if it had a left wing Bias. The, old farts faces when they learn that the BBC was now a private company, and that 90% of all staff had to be axed ! Perhaps these Labour Supporting 'toffs' might suddenly not be in favor of the Job Destruction motive of the current Government, when faced with having to find one outside Auntie !

redange · 16/12/2025 23:33

I wonder what the Commercial value of a BBC Subscription would be. Would it be £9.99 a Month like Netflix that has thousands of Movies and releases at the Cinema, would it be £10.99 a month like Amazon Prime which again has content from around the World the best outlet for Goods in the World Live Sport and action around the world. The reality is the BBC Subscription would be not worth 50 Pence a month utter rubbish ! The, only value to the BBC was the network of Regional Radio Stations which played a crucial role in society. They have of course ceased to be the same, and mostly just play 'networked' Programs and redundancies have occurred to much loved local Radio Presenters. Good Riddance to a desperate and Past its time Organisation.

Prometheus78 · 17/12/2025 06:16

redange · 16/12/2025 23:33

I wonder what the Commercial value of a BBC Subscription would be. Would it be £9.99 a Month like Netflix that has thousands of Movies and releases at the Cinema, would it be £10.99 a month like Amazon Prime which again has content from around the World the best outlet for Goods in the World Live Sport and action around the world. The reality is the BBC Subscription would be not worth 50 Pence a month utter rubbish ! The, only value to the BBC was the network of Regional Radio Stations which played a crucial role in society. They have of course ceased to be the same, and mostly just play 'networked' Programs and redundancies have occurred to much loved local Radio Presenters. Good Riddance to a desperate and Past its time Organisation.

Beyond their diminishing sports coverage and David Attenborough, I don’t see the value offering, personally….

Pacificsunshine · 17/12/2025 07:55

I think they would have to sell their drama/entertainment unit to Netflix, Amazon, etc.

TheNuthatch · 17/12/2025 08:25

Good morning 😁 🎄

I won't ask what the deleted message was. 😬

Inflation has fallen to 3.2%. Some good news at last. Sky reporting that the fall was driven by a drop in food inflation which is down to 4.2%, and a fall in tobacco.

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NoWordForFluffy · 17/12/2025 08:44

Fucking hell. Net zero at any cost, but fuck the wildlife when building houses. Utterly clueless twats.

Julen7 · 17/12/2025 08:47

It’s awful isn’t it 😪. Labour are killing the UK in every possible way. Death by a thousand cuts.