Thread 39 Starmer: chwech/saith - dechreuodd y plant ei

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Political and general chat

Taxes optional but greatly appreciated

Cameron caved in to the ERG element in the Tory party in order to stay in power. Ed Miliband said that it would be a disaster and Ed was right in his prediction.

So the economy has suffered and so has the Tory party. All to satisfy a group within the Tory party that has fractured beyond all recognition.

No no, we had enough of experts!

At least that is still being trotted out by MN's resident brexiteer

We really need to recall how John Major stood up the 1993 equivalent of the ERG and showed them to be full of piss and wind.

History will (and already is) view him well.

Farage agitated, if Cameron had told the ERG to fuck off & join Ukip or whatever the party was called at the time instead of caving to those bunch of fuckwits & implementing a badly thought out referendum & then running away followed by May & the stupid red lines & the less said about shyster Johnson & his “Deal” the better.
I wish Labour would at least rejoin the single market/customs union they have a huge majority, it is very doubtful any party will ever have again everyone apparently hates the government might as well piss off most of the media even more, I’m intrigued as to why the NBER report has virtually gone unreported & why Labour & LibDems are not making more of it, or maybe they & no one has bothered reporting.

A bit like the under reporting of Reform's 9m donation.

if Cameron had told the ERG to fuck off

The problem is these are the same people who pulled his pants down in school and bullied him for being the spineless weasel they clearly had him pegged as

(read that how you may).

Even if the Clacton vote is declared null and void, sadly in a by-election Reform could claim victimhood and probably win. Though it would be a gift for opponents come 2029.

I agree it does already. Oft quoted is the number or Tory votes in 1992, and as for delivery in government, much as I disagreed with these, rail privatisation and the change to Sunday trading laws.

That will never happen. After all, what is a vote worth ? By the last court decision in England, it's about £0.00

Isn’t it just, sickening & as pp very seedy which sums him up he should be in a pub somewhere boring the regulars to death wanging on about the common market not anywhere near any political power or given airtime it’s truly ridiculous that this man is given any credence whatsoever.

A lot of the senior Nazis were just opportunistic amoral grifters. Which certainly didn't help a country fighting for it's existence.

I wonder if in 2105, Netmount (or Paraflix) have a massive video hit with "Farage:The banality of evil."

I was thinking about this earlier and wondering what would happen if someone like Rupert Lowe [or someone else Reform had kicked out] ran against Farage in a Clacton by-election - split the far right vote

Well he did well regarding the Good Friday agreement. (Much to the chagrin of the DUP - remember them? They formed a coalition under May's Government who was trying even then to keep the ERG onside.)

Having said all I have, it was ultimately Boris Johnson who scuttled the boat.

Growing up in the 70s/80s, I never thought I would see the Berlin Wall fall, apartheid end, or any form of peace in Northern Ireland. (As some dreadful poetry and lyrics would testify 😀)

The IRA bombing campaign was quite vivid as I grew up in London.

Quite. That's his place in history.

Even with the decision to leave, it never had to be this bad.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04vqzp6x31o

Well having grown up in Northern Ireland, with relatives in Birmingham and London, life was punctured regularly with awful news. I lived and worked in London from 1989, and thought at times it would never end.

My respite was university in Galway and work for 8 years - it was a lovely time in my 20s.

I posted this snippet from the local reddit sub elsewhere - he's an "interesting" sort.

I really think he looks like if Hugh Bonneville had a dodgy secret brother.

Reading this, it looks as though they didn't run the checks. Usually in this situation I would expect the search to show up a pvn to prove that the business was doing the proper checks. It covers an employer if the time taken to do the checks for renewal of an evisa takes the applicant outside of the evisa renewal period. Hope that makes sense.

It's a 2 minute task that can save thousands of pounds

If the business had run a check whilst the indefinite leave to remain was being processed, they would have been given the pvn to protect themselves from prosecution. They have been successfully prosecuted.

Regardless of the outcome of the employers rtw status, it looks as though this business didn't follow the law.

😂

Cracking up at this
Placemats impressive mattress wrangling skills, Love Galway from the very brief time I spent there Dh was stationed near salt hill when he was in the Irish army, yy I grew up in London the child of 1st generation Irish immigrants it was scary times during the bombing campaign for many reasons I have a lot of respect for John Major didn’t agree with many of his policies but he struck me as a honest & decent man I literally bumped into him a few years ago in London he was a lot taller than I thought he would be & quite distinguished looking.

He doesn't appear to be fan of following the law
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6824b00e7293a87b6c75ec54/Mrs_A_Reeves_v_Churchills_Management_Ltd_trading_as_the_Armoury_2501804-2024_judgment.pdf

Why is it I wonder that Reform attracts such deadbeats,liars,con artists & deeply unpleasant individuals “Birds of Feather” syndrome such a shame these people are privy to holding positions in public life I really don’t understand how they aren’t held to account for bringing the institutions they serve into disrepute.