Caroline Flack - she was so let down

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Just watched the documentary, it’s so sad. She was treated so awfully by the press and police.

I feel so bad for her mum and friends and family 😢

I do know via a friend it was impossible recently to access the Priory even with means to pay. Getting a call back or reply hard enough & then a wait list/no room at Inn situation

I should think that was an isolated event

plenty of other private hospitals for paying people

anyhow CF decided not to go…letting herself down really rather than anyone else letting her down as post title suggests

Often people who are seriously mentally ill don't realise how unwell they really are. We are in the middle of a mental health crisis its not just the nhs struggling with bed shortages.

Her mum said she didn’t want to go because she was worried about confidentiality

It makes little sense to opt for a public trial though

Yes needed to plead guilty

Don't blame her. If the press got hold of it they would of ripped her to shreds even more.

But your medical records are confidential

whose do you know of that’s been leaked?

people pay for privacy too

Unfortunately a lot of mental illnesses one of the symptoms is paranoia.

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Princess Kate, George Clooney, Britney spears, Prince, farrah fawcett, Michael Jackson, kim kardashian. To name a few happens a lot

What have you read about him that’s makes your think he isn’t a nice man?

I am curious about this too and what does "not squeaky clean" mean?

Is anyone "squeaky clean"?- a moment ago that poster was saying how we are all human, we all make mistakes and we should have empathy for people who make mistakes and not shame them for their mistakes. So where does an expectation that we should all be squeaky clean come into play?

Gosh I never heard anything

leaked when they alive?

I don’t think CF was in that ballpark of fame and they are all American where it’s different apart from Kate

I always think we don’t even get confirmation of plastic surgery when the celebs are claiming they haven’t had any

It does seem to be more an American issue and obviously the health professionals are fired. But its worth a Google there are loads its actually awful what people will do for money

Why the fuck should he? She hit him. I am sick to death of people excusing her behaviour. She bloody well hit him, badly enough that the police were called (believe me they don't turn up for every domestic).

He has no responsibility for her taking her own life, he doesn't have to justify moving on. He doesn't even have to admit she abused him.

I doubt it was the first time she hit him either, it rarely is.

People need to stop making excuses for her. The texts weren't to a woman he was having an affair with, but to a client.

Alot of trolls on here tonight. At no point @xSideshowAuntSallyXx have I said that he was responsible for her death.

And no to whoever asked, in my opinion I don't think he was a very nice man. He was a former tennis player who didn't earn very much money and he was an opportunist, he saw CF as a wealthy woman in the public eye who he could sponge off and raise his profile to pursue his modelling career. Her friends had said that she gave him 25k to pay off his debts and that CF paid for everything. He also took a photo of the "bloodbath" crime scene and sent it to his ex girlfriend who then sold it to the Sun. He was not invited or did not attend CF funeral which is quite telling. And then he was pictured 6 months after she died with his new girlfriend - who's friends also reported in the papers that she too paid for everything and had given him large sums of money. Looks like he had a type. The photos of him with his new GF on holiday so soon after CF death looked staged and he's groping her bum and making out with her which is distasteful.

I dont think Caroline was a saint either but she did not deserve all the hate that she received and continues to receive for one mistake.

To whoever asked "why didn't she help herself"......she was under the care of 2 psychiatrists that her team had sought out help from. She was medicated and when she died they found traces of zoplicane and diazepan in her system to help her sleep and tackle the anxiety/spiralling feeling, she was already taking antidepressants and she had planned to go abroad to a clinic. You can't just ring up the priory and ask to go - there's a massive waiting list, same for alot of private clinics - i know this from being faced with the same issue with a relative who ended up going abroad in desperation. It was apparent to medical staff - ambulance crew/psych that she was in the midst of a mental breakdown (their words) and their preference was to admit her to hospital but she declined and they were powerless to force her as she was in her own home and not out in public.
She was going to plead guilty in court - she had stated that in a text message before she died. She did not deny what she did, infact she openly admitted it but she perceived it as an accident rather than an assault. I don't think anyone really knows what happened because CF and L changed their stories multiple times and seemed confused by what actually happened- she used a lamp or a phone or a fan - she whacked him with something, then it was she threw the phone at his head. I imagine they were both so drunk they didn't really know what was happening. Either way what she did was wrong but the media frenzy and level of hate that ensued was disproportionate to the event that occurred - and im talking about the Flack attack headlines, the valentines card that read "ill fing lamp you", the "this is what a domestic abuser looks like love island photo fit". For an allegation so serious I don't think any of that reporting making a joke and poking fun at her and DV was remotely appropriate for anyone involved.

Anybody can do what they like with photos of the scene where they were assaulted.

It's not the victim's fault that somebody else sold those photos. And even if it were, well, the attacker shouldn't have attacked them.

Why would the victim of a domestic assault want to attend the funeral of their abuser?

Why would the family of an abuser who are busy painting their relative as a latter day saint invite the victim of their family member to a funeral?

Why would a victim of domestic abuse risk attending the funeral of their abuser when there could be a potential risk of attack (verbal or otherwise) from both the family members of their abuser but randoms - and also having cameras shoved in their face or from half a mile away to make sure he looked suitably unhappy/guilty, ready for a big photo online for randoms to say 'the hypocrite, it's his fault, how can he show his face?', 'He's only there for the photos', or 'Dramatic scenes as fight breaks out at funeral', etc, etc.

IIRC, the photos you describe as 'staged' were taken from a huge distance with a massive telephoto lens the other side of the world. And he was perfectly entitled to date somebody else - even had they been married, he'd have been entitled to do that, as marriage vows only last until death - as they had only been dating for six months, why should a victim of domestic abuse, no matter what the abuser's psychiatric history or level of intoxication on drugs and/or alcohol was, be expected to don Victorian Mourning attire and take a vow of celibacy?

Quite. - a lot of men are attached within six months after a 25 year marriage - doesn’t seem odd to me

I won't go to my ex's funeral, and I have no time or sympathy for abusers. They destroy lives and people.

Have you ever tried to move on after abuse? It isn't bloody easy and the fact he's found someone he trusts enough to do that with is testament to the woman he is with more than anything. Learning to trust after abuse is a major thing.

Also, just yesterday we heard about a man who paralysed his poor partner by breaking her neck.

Oh and I'm not a troll. Just someone who has no time for abusers, having lived with it for many years. But carry on blindly with your hero worship of a celebrity.

I can't be bothered to argue with the trolls tonight, I'm signing off from this thread. I don't think 1 isolated minor drunken mistake makes CF a domestic abuser, not even close. But I can see there's a lot of black and white rigid thinking on here so I'm not wasting my energy.

I’m actually pleasantly surprised that the documentary her mother had made hasn’t really changed anyone’s option. Abuse by a woman should be as abhorred as abuse by a man.

If you can’t contribute to a respectful and reasonable, whilst emotive, discussion which this thread has mostly been, without resorting to calling anyone you disagree with a troll, probably best if you leave the thread.