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Labour isn't working - Thread 18

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TheNuthatch · 10/11/2025 09:16

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

Bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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DancingFerret · 13/11/2025 10:22

redange · 13/11/2025 10:02

I am not saying I am a 'psychic' but this Government is as bad I imagined it was going to be. I was met with 'give them a chance' when I said that if they were voted in, after just six months in office, they would be the most incompetent and socially destructive Government in British history. This has come to pass with this administration and the Parliamentary Labour Party, who are inhabited by the most 'pathetic' group of individuals.

I had exactly that conversation with a friend (headmaster of a grammar school, no less) when they were elected. His view at the time was not to worry as life will go on no matter who's in government.

These days he's not quite so sanguine.🙄

redange · 13/11/2025 10:23

he chancellor is expected to introduce a new cap on how much people can spend on a bicycle through the Cycle to Work scheme, according to people familiar with Budget preparations. The original upper threshold of £1,000 was scrapped in 2019, allowing the purchase of even the most expensive bikes. But now ministers do not believe subsidies of several thousand pounds are the best use of taxpayer money. “
Cycle to Work should be about helping ordinary commuters switch to greener travel, not giving tax breaks to high earners buying £4,000 e-bikes for weekend rides in the Surrey Hills,” said one government figure. “Taxpayers shouldn’t be footing the bill for luxury leisure.”

Like many of Labour's policies and U turns this makes no sense, I thought their thinking was to get people out of cars and on to other means of transportation. It appears that Reeves and this administration have in depth 'knowledge' at the price point where all goods and services become luxury items in their twisted mindset. Take the luxury Car tax stranded at £40k for eight years, this is now hurting their desired policy to get people in to Electric vehicles .

This is unless you are a cabinet member, where no amount of money spent or sybaritic expenses are questioned Ed Miliband's £1,250 a night hotel was chosen in Belem due to the proximity to all the best restaurants and nightlife.

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EasternStandard · 13/11/2025 10:30

redange · 13/11/2025 10:02

I am not saying I am a 'psychic' but this Government is as bad I imagined it was going to be. I was met with 'give them a chance' when I said that if they were voted in, after just six months in office, they would be the most incompetent and socially destructive Government in British history. This has come to pass with this administration and the Parliamentary Labour Party, who are inhabited by the most 'pathetic' group of individuals.

I knew because of these things: the terrible VAT policy that people thought would do anything good, the “fully funded” nonsense and lies, Starmer going all in going to smash the gangs when it was not possible - how did he get that so wrong?

Reeves sounding very inexperienced and just generally the ability of any of them to understand business.

It was all there. It was this site that went bananas for the toolmaker and ‘change’. It’s all recorded just the bizarre belief in them.

redange · 13/11/2025 10:34

Correction the £1,250 a night was in Rio !

SpaceRaccoon · 13/11/2025 10:48

Like many of Labour's policies and U turns this makes no sense, I thought their thinking was to get people out of cars and on to other means of transportation. It appears that Reeves and this administration have in depth 'knowledge' at the price point where all goods and services become luxury items in their twisted mindset. Take the luxury Car tax stranded at £40k for eight years, this is now hurting their desired policy to get people in to Electric vehicles .

Yep, like wanting everyone to put as much as possible into a private pension and then suddenly deciding that's another good place to do a tax raid.

Any sniff of anything that a "non-worker" might get a tiny modicum of benefit from - kill it with fire.

justasking111 · 13/11/2025 10:50

Number 10 is treating labour MPs very badly, has from the start. It must be very demoralising to be dismissed in this manner. I can understand why there's an undercurrent of rebellion.

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:52

SpaceRaccoon · 13/11/2025 10:16

That would be the countryside finished in the pursuit of net zero.

Not even in pursuit of net zero. In pursuit of Ed millibands power grab. As we saw when he stabbed his (far superior) own brother in the back, he is ruthless and greedy.

We all know ‘net zero’ is a con. A hypocritical costly disaster. China and India Russians the USA - they actually seriously damage the world not us in minature old inconsequential UK, ffs. Idiotic Ed. He’s dangerous. Far more dangerous than Starmer.

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:54

DancingFerret · 13/11/2025 10:16

I've often thought the only difference between KS and Red Ed is one hardly moves (bollard) and the other is straight out of a Wallace and Grommit cartoon. Apart from that, they're as dangerous to the UK as each other.

Underestimate Ed’s ability to fck us all over even more, at your peril. 🙈🙈

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:55

It’s all relative, of course.

38thparallel · 13/11/2025 10:57

redange · Today 10:34
Correction the £1,250 a night was in Rio

Add on a couple of noughts to include costs for numerous advisors, aides, secretaries, security detail and other hangers-on,

EasternStandard · 13/11/2025 11:16

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:54

Underestimate Ed’s ability to fck us all over even more, at your peril. 🙈🙈

Pretty much all of the Labour options are dire. Although I do agree on the Ed take.

redange · 13/11/2025 11:53

8thparallel · Today 10:57

redange · Today 10:34
Correction the £1,250 a night was in Rio
Add on a couple of noughts to include costs for numerous advisors, aides, secretaries, security detail and other hangers-on,

I know that the hangers on will all be on the expenses gravy train.
I have been fortunate to have stayed in a lot of expensive hotels (paid by ourselves or our business) that's not the point though, especially when this Government is 'Skint' and is continuously lecturing the public about tough decisions.
Miliband and his lackeys could have easily stayed at 4 star business hotel for around £250 a night that would have been acceptable. 'Hey ho I am a Cabinet Minister', I demand 5 Star service with a driver, bodyguard and concierge available at all times. This is from an avid socialist representing the old Mining town of 'Doncaster'. Talk about a total dissonance towards his constituents and how they live. Thus, how can anybody seriously canvas for him with any humility around deprived parts of Doncaster North.

CaveMum · 13/11/2025 12:05

Also worth listening to TRIM today - Steph is deeply unimpressed with this Government too!

They also talk about how unpopular removing the 2 child limit is with the general public. Steph is not in favour of removing it, she’d probably be very at home on this thread 😜

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-money/id1703785141?i=1000736539024

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2025 12:11

A man on lbc today was worried about small businesses. It sounded so grim tbh.

justasking111 · 13/11/2025 12:19

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:52

Not even in pursuit of net zero. In pursuit of Ed millibands power grab. As we saw when he stabbed his (far superior) own brother in the back, he is ruthless and greedy.

We all know ‘net zero’ is a con. A hypocritical costly disaster. China and India Russians the USA - they actually seriously damage the world not us in minature old inconsequential UK, ffs. Idiotic Ed. He’s dangerous. Far more dangerous than Starmer.

Edited

I laughed out loud the other night when a journalist mused out loud

"Is David Milliband clearing his diary I wonder"

justasking111 · 13/11/2025 12:24

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 10:54

Underestimate Ed’s ability to fck us all over even more, at your peril. 🙈🙈

Ed's the darling of the unions as is Raynor. The same union members faithfully paying in that are being laid off every day.

I'm old enough to remember Scargill destroying our mining. Red Ed destruction of our car industry.

Scargill is still alive living in a grace and favour home paid for by union fees.

redange · 13/11/2025 12:26

Has anybody just seen the hilarious press conference with Starmer, Reeves and Milliband at FE College in North Wales. The poor 17 year old students forced to listen to a speech from the most boring 'Headmaster' . What was even more funny was in the quest for true 'Diversity' some prat asked a question in Welsh !

justasking111 · 13/11/2025 12:30

redange · 13/11/2025 12:26

Has anybody just seen the hilarious press conference with Starmer, Reeves and Milliband at FE College in North Wales. The poor 17 year old students forced to listen to a speech from the most boring 'Headmaster' . What was even more funny was in the quest for true 'Diversity' some prat asked a question in Welsh !

Last couple of times Starmer was here he was smuggled out the back door to avoid the farmers and tractors outside waiting to speak to him.

He's got a bloody nerve to be honest.

Rivalled · 13/11/2025 12:34

@CaveMum Steph was an early dissenting voice, she quite quickly had a bad feeling about them!

redange · 13/11/2025 12:45

Wouldn't it be nice if we had talented MP's competing against each other for a Cabinet Position.

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 12:49

justasking111 · 13/11/2025 12:24

Ed's the darling of the unions as is Raynor. The same union members faithfully paying in that are being laid off every day.

I'm old enough to remember Scargill destroying our mining. Red Ed destruction of our car industry.

Scargill is still alive living in a grace and favour home paid for by union fees.

Yep. It’s because of the unions support he was elected leader over his (far superior) brother. Everyone else wanted David Milliband. The union vote got Ed in as he’d been courting them for that reason. Utter prick. David Milliband would probably have beaten Cameron in the GE. Well Ed made sure we didn’t get that opportunity. So we got Cameron. And Brexit. Follow the links backwards and Ed Milliband is to blame for the crap we’re in today.

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 12:52

Ok. For A Lot of the crap we’re in today.. maybe not All..

upseedaisee · 13/11/2025 13:21

Rexinasaurus · 13/11/2025 12:52

Ok. For A Lot of the crap we’re in today.. maybe not All..

Nah, I think you had it right the first time

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