Labour isn't working - Thread 18

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

Bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Just skip past, it’s easier

I fell out with the BBC over Savile and Rolf Harris. Thinking who else are they covering for.

The dramas are depressing, violent, which I also don't like.

We just don't watch it. There's so much choice these days.

Sorry, that makes no sense.

You were comparing the BBC with the Telegraph. I pointed out that that’s apples v oranges.

Of course people on this thread have a point of view, actually views plural, and not always in agreement. Just as they do on other threads, like the long-running Labour one with the ‘witty’ title each time and twee pictures of cats. So what?

And I don’t ostracise anyone.

I dont watch terrestrial tv at all now. I might stream the occasional thing (mostly Grand Designs!) but that's it. Our tv isn’t even set up for live terrestrial broadcasting.

Blue Lights is excellent ! Though it does seem to make Belfast look like a metropolis and not a city of 300,000..

Yeah, I love Blue Lights. Best UK police drama I’ve seen in many years.

@NoWordForFluffy

Of course! But that doesn’t mean that someone can’t join who disagrees with the ‘alternative’ does it? And the ‘alternative’ tends to be promoted in the likes of the Telegraph.

But the response is an attempt to ostracise, ridicule and refer to me as ‘it’. I’ve not attempted to tell people to ‘leave the thread’ or called anyone ‘it’.

I might check that out. I did really like Happy Valley.

BBC ‘must accept’ it is biased, says Labour MP
The BBC is the biggest danger to its own future and must stop “failing to acknowledge” its institutional basis, a Labour MP has said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbc-in-crisis-as-tim-davie-resigns/#1762765654316

Graham Stringer seems like he may be a sensible chap! (Based on that one article, so I may be wrong!)

@SpaceRaccoon

….as reported in the completely unbiased Telegraph!

I could suggest that BBC reporting on Denmarks immigration policy - perhaps there is a hint of favourability there which is right wing influence…

Like I say - it’s the right leaners who jump on the perception of left wing bias. Farage does that a lot.

Thanks for the new thread @TheNuthatch

I'm trying to keep a toe in but struggling to keep up with these fast moving threads.

The BBC needs to slim down a lot. Not sure why so many channels are necessary.

I think the BBC need to bring back Top of the Pops. I’d be SO happy.

Thanks for the new thread OP, checking in!

There's bias and then there is creative editing that amounts to a colossal lie. Obviously the Telegraph is biased, you are allowed to have a paper that leans left or right, what you can't have us a publicly funded national broadcaster that is actually lying to its fee paying audience under some sense that the lie is for the greater good.

You'd have to be willfully dense not to appreciate the difference.

Number One this week! Idles with Danny Nedelko!!

the bbc school vat coverage was an eye opener for me, endless photos of kids in straw boaters, little attempt to cover SEN…let’s hope it’s a quiet week for tax scare stories - scared enough!

Good morning. Good to see you back.
I can't keep up either

Just for the But Reform gang - about a million threads ago, I posted this, and this is still my position.

"I am so politically homeless, in despair about who I could vote for.
Overall slightly left-of-centre but have no objection to private education/healthcare because I also strongly believe in individual freedom to spend your hard-earned-and-taxed money as you see fit. Socially generally very liberal but a sex-realist so recognises the importance of female single-sex spaces, and have nothing but contempt for the self-indulgent word-salad snowflakery of the Omnicause. Very much pro a safety net for the less fortunate in society but therefore recognise the vital importance of not strangling the economy nor vilifying those who pay the most tax. As an ethnic minority immigrant myself, broadly pro-immigration but it has to be controlled and fairly administered and not retrospectively changed; distraught by the emboldening of xenophobic rhetoric at all levels of British society."

I voted for Corbyn in 2019 😆

Well, not for him directly as I'm not in his constituancy, but I voted Labour in the general election.
I was so gutted at the result, and so relieved in retrospect - although I do think Johnson did a lot of damage in his own way too.

There’s been a lot of fantasy:
-the BBC pretending the world is a certain way that they would like it to be in regards to Trump, Trans activists, and Israel
-Rachel Reeves in regards to how the economy actually works
-Ed Miliband in regards to climate change and energy policy

Reality is starting to bite. The sooner everyone faces up to objective reality the better off we will all be. The longer we pander to these delusions, the more painful the reckoning will be.

The public can see it. There is a lot of discontent. I hope these people can put their egos aside and react to the world as it is, not as they would like it to be.

“Far right extremists outnumber Islamists - anti terror referrals’

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/06/far-right-extremists-outnumber-islamists-prevent-anti-terror-referrals-data

It’s interesting to see the BBC trip over in such an obvious way.

You can get away with a whole load of systemic bias as it’s self perpetuating but to show its hand so blatantly in a tip of the iceberg way. They’ve really done it to themselves.

I think a large part of the issue is that “The Left” tend to be very puritanical and don’t understand that political parties need to be a broad church on many issues.

I’m a right-leaning centrist and on several occasions have posted in these threads opinions that others disagree with.

Not once has anyone demanded I be cast out for expressing those thoughts. I have however been called a Tory Bot many times in the past on the “left wing” threads so no longer bother posting on them.

It’s not mere opinion that this goes on, for anyone in doubt I really recommend reading The Righteous Mind which talks extensively about the tendency of the Left to their unwavering belief that they are always in the right.