Labour isn't working - Thread 17

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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£3k for a regulator job seems quite cheap as well!

Is there a current mechanism to only cut NI for people with below a certain total salary? That sounds like a change to how tax works: where everyone pays the same amount on a particular tranche... it's just that contribution rate goes up on higher tranches.

That's a good question. Surely that would add an administrative burden on pay roll depts, as who's going to work out who is or isn't eligible.

Potentially that's poorly-worded reporting / lack of understanding as to what's being suggested?

This crappy government get poor value for our money... even when they're taking bribes
😂

Zero.

a) I work in a heavily regulated sector, and b) I have never worked for an entity which had an accommodative compliance department, or c) a culture of freeloading.

Crucially, many of us do not all share the values of people who are constantly looking for freebies. I find it disgusting.

There is a new thread which seems to be getting a lot of attention….

What Labour call 'the highest standards' - which they fail to meet - the rest of us call 'basic expectations'

We have to declare any gift or hospitality above £50. And would recluse ourselves from any selection if we had any link to a candidate.

"Didn't meet the highest standards".
If this lot could even meet the lowest standards it would be an improvement. Alas...

Yes some posters trying to defend the indefensible .. They do not understand that eventually the economy will crash if you continue to take every single bit of spare cash of everybody.

The country has been both morally and economically in decline since 2010. This starting as a trickle mostly economically at first due to the 2008 credit crunch. However, eventually trickles turn in to torrents and we are now in a position where every single day the UK's societal decay is visible .

In my last job, we had to declare everything. Anything given as a gift had to be disclosed to the oversight team and they would decide if we could keep it or not. If not, it was sent to head office to be re gifted to a food bank or raffled.
Considering I was an admin assistant and these bloody people run the country I think they should be held to the same standards. Trough and snout comes to mind.

Oh dear. "We'll never need to do that again" - Rachel Reeves, November 2024

https://x.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1987449732097061100

What amazes me is the way this is memory-holed by Labour supporters, as we're now being told scoldingly that of course taxes need to rise and don't we want good public services - the same way they memory-holed "fully costed".

Sod em, they’re in declining numbers.

The electorate won’t feel the same. I hope MPs find it hard to do media rounds and some say no.

I do like Trevor Phillips. He doesn't care what colour your tie is, he'll hang you with it.

This, in spades.

Tap dancing across the ceiling? Bulldozer over already wilting flowers more like.

Most professional jobs you need qualifications. To run a country you need fck all experience or qualifications.
It’s shows.

😂😂 again showing sheer incompetence wherever they go 😂

Yeh I was being too nice I couldn’t think of anything in the moment 😬

Yours is better

If this actually comes to pass, Rachel Reeves is an ass. I've just read that it is likely that she will put an annual tax free limit on pension contributions and then, then, you will pay NICs. She really can't see further than next wednseday can she?
Believe it or not I asked for a similar story to be removed earlier, because it was a year old. She's obviously been keeping it in her back pocket 'just in case'
So it looks like DS will be cutting his hours and stopping paying into his pension, putting his money esewhere.

"Ms Reeves is preparing to extract an additional £2billion from retirement funds by imposing restrictions on salary sacrifice pension arrangements, as part of efforts to address a substantial gap in Government finances.

The Chancellor intends to establish a £2,000 annual limit for these schemes, with National Insurance contributions becoming payable on amounts exceeding this threshold.
These measures form part of the Treasury's strategy to generate revenue for a financial shortfall reaching as much as £30billion, partly attributed to anticipated productivity revisions by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR)."

Pension savings to be targeted in £2bn tax raid under Rachel Reeves's 'backward' Budget

The point about future tax is an interesting thought / if the tax relief is watered down, perhaps you are better paying it now, saving into share ISAs and you know that you aren’t going to face a 60 percent tax rate in retirement…plus ISAs are fully controlled by you.

sadly, the govt wins either way on salary sacrifice - stop pension payments, pay more income tax, keep on with pension contributions and they’ll collect the extra NI.

They hold a certain section of the electorate in contempt. It's obvious and palpable.

This government is just hideous.

Unfortunately, the BBC is not the answer. I think this should end the licence fee. There is no justification for taxing us for Strictly Come Dancing, Traitors, etc. It’s discretionary entertainment. Should have been privatised decades ago.

Perhaps we could sell it to Netflix or Amazon and help plug Rachel’s black hole.

Yep we’ve stopped paying. We don’t watch either anyway.

It’s most of us isn’t it? And the majority return the favour.

We've just decided to ditch it. DH is exceptionally happy to get rid.

Yes it’s really freeing when you see the annoying stuff, knowing you don’t pay.

On that note just got a headline that Tim Davie is resigning!