Labour isn't working - Thread 17

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I think there are polite ways of discussing other points of view, and none of them start with a 'You're all wrong, and here's why' premise!

@MrsMurphyIWish

Sorry, I need to reply to that. Then I’ll go!
I know that Section F is legally enforceable. And I have really, really tried to get that clear - with frequency/group size/how often. I know that if I go to the school/LA and say ‘this isn’t happening’ then I’m at least ‘right’.
The thing that makes a massive difference is SALT support, so I that myself/privately as I know it doesn’t happen at school.
Thing is - years ago there was also no funding. I also didn’t have a computer or worksheets or a TA. And 30 children! I just think the focus was more on the fundamental basics of provision, good planning, differentiation and clear behaviour management strategies that worked. Not thousands spent on brain gym, or latest fads over say - reading books.
Which is why I think we need to get back to being a community working together which is done through - socialism. I work voluntarily with a large group of children. Inclusion isn’t an issue there, and we don’t need EHCP’s and a SENCO. And I think it’s because the provision is spot on. We have minimal funding.

I see this all the time in terms of the way my Labour led council operates. The Labour councillors are obsessed with Reform

i personally have no interest in discussing Reform. There are no local elections in my area until 2027 and next general election isn’t until 2029, I think.

what is important to me is what is happening now and for the next few years regarding the likely impact for good or ill of this government’s policies.

I am engaged with the current thread with my DS and his needs and how his EHCP is not meeting his potential

To move my DS year 10 who has an ECHP from a mainstream secondary school whose target grades are around grades 2/3 to a Private School and ask DS to start year 8 in January at the Private School to a Private school and ask him
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@CandidLurker

Ok. That’s where I disagree because I don’t think you should ignore what could be looming on the horizon.

And NF thinks 2027 for an election.

Who cares what Farage thinks?

It's the current government which affects our lives. Polling now is totally irrelevant for 2029.

Labour needs to get its own house in order and stop peering over the fence at the neighbours.

That was a thread I started on the 19th of October !

For those that have read the the thread: the bullying of my son due to his different lifestyle and family affluence has got worse.
The Private school will not accept him 1 year down

It is a terrible situation and I don't know what to do apart from cry !

Yeah, you're right. I see it now too, the more posts I read.

I'm really sorry to hear about your son. I haven't read your thread, but I remember you posting on here about it.
Have the private school suggested anything else? I assumed it was they who suggested that your son go in at a younger year, but that's obviously not the case.

No I think the pp was referring to the poster who has announced her departure.

My son is not prepared to drop 2 years, the general consensus on here was that was to much socially anyway. It was also suggested that state provision was probably better than Independent . Specialist Boarding schools are out due to boarding being totally unsuitable for him . The unsuitability likely related to his attachment needs related to his adoption.

Ah ok, sorry I misunderstood. So the private school want him to drop 2 years. That is a lot, particularly at that age.
That's a horrible situation to be in. He shouldn't be getting bullied, whichever school he goes to. My dd has SEND and there is no way I could have sent her to a boarding school. I did have to pull her out of mainstream and homeschool for a while. It was the right decision for her at the time. She was in primary though, so not the same as the dilemma you face.
What does your son want?

DS does not know what he wants, DH has said it does not matter whether DS ever works because we are in a fortunate position where he will be supported financially.
However, this is where I have serious arguments with DH because I believe DS has potential and should not be 'written' off just because financially we are able to.

DH and family are old school wealthy, and subsequently are only interested in DD 1 year 11 and DD 2 year 9 at a Girls Grammar. The problem also being Public School Educated DH does not understand they are 'different' types of state schools. Thus, turning up in expensive sport cars to pick the children up is one thing at a Grammar School, but another thing at a 42% FSM one.
The bullying has become more evident as the financial differences are more noticeable to DS's peers as they become older .

I'm not surprised you're arguing with your dh! I'd be raging in your shoes if I'm honest.
Perhaps your ds is thinking that it would be easier to just wait it out until he finishes at his current school. Its so hard to predict what would happen if you put him in another school, but I agree that putting him in at year 8 would be risky. I couldn't handle the bullying at his current school though. I hope you find the right path for him.

Who remembers this look at schools in the early 1980's

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Perhaps schools have improved

@redange sorry to hear about your ds - my dc is a year back and that has worked out well. Is there a solution where they’d agree to one year back, do fewer subjects and use other lesson time for support? It’s so difficult to find the right setting.

Must disagree slightly, my small rural village, mostly middle class professionals, our lovely hard working farmers and many SML business owners all voted Reform! Must admit was very surprised! The reason being our Conservative Councillors changed allegiance to Reform. The one last Conservative Guy was rather rude to people on social media, so people thought stuff you let’s give Reform a chance. Also the leader of LCC is Stephen Atkinson, Ex Conservative, who ran Ribble Valley Council for years very successfully, he is also a great businessman and generally a well liked guy in the community. We were also a Conservative stronghold for years! The Labour MP we have got landed with never answers emails and just toes the party line, in fact useless. Really like Kemi and hope she continues to grow! Most I speak to would like a Conservative or Reform Government or anything to keep Labour/Greens out. Funnily enough nobody now admits to voting for Labour only 2/3 cultists and they are nuts, slag everybody off who complains about Labour, with very unrealistic truths and now nobody converses with them over politics. The Guardian also published a story how LCC are closing 5 care homes and 5 day centres and turning them into private homes? They are actually consulting with residents and staff. From what I can gather CQC gave good ratings but poor for safety, which were due to problems with the building which need immediate expensive upgrading. Also some homes are under occupied, so not cost efficient. Hope they can all be saved! Of course Labour/The Guardian spreading nonsense about Reform LCC Council. Would really love it if Atkinson and team do well, so he can tell Labour where to go! We all hate Labour with a passion.

The Ribble Valley is solidly Conservative, though Nigel Evans lost his seat in 2024. A number of usually rock solid Conservative seats in Cheshire were lost such as Congleton to Labour which were 1 in a hundred year things

It's such a problem that the press is now so politicised that it's impossible to get clear information.

How do we hold politicians to account without a trusted press?

Here we go…

A rising number of the Chancellor’s backbenchers are criticising her, saying she is “running out of road” and that her Budget will “go down like a bucket of sick”.
Other Labour MPs have started to go on the record with their criticism, saying Ms Reeves will be “lucky to be here by Christmas”.

On Friday, the Chancellor told the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) that she planned to raise income tax by 2p, which will be offset by a 2p cut to NI, allowing her to argue that “working people” are being protected.

But it has since been reported that the NI cut would apply only to those earning less than £50,270 – meaning a significant tax rise for millions of middle earners.

This includes 283,000 NHS staff, 137,000 teachers as well as police officers, pharmacists and train drivers.

From take that you VAT payers to this in 15 months.

I can’t stand Labour but I also couldn’t stand all those vindictive posters happy about VAT. Looks like Labour will get to them sooner or later.

Those posters have been remarkably quiet about the lack of VAT moolah bonanza for state schools, haven't they?

@LeakyRad probably because it’s a net cost now bloody idiots. I think it’s a question of heads down next 3 years and hope to god something happens to push them out

Those who have trumpeted Labour since the election, are going to have less and less to trumpet about, that’s clear.

The small hardcore nucleus that continue to do so, will simply turn their focus to running down Reform, rather than openly attempting to defend Labour - it has become that futile.

No not you!...I meant to quote @Frankenchino