Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

The biggest riots I have ever seen in this country were triggered by the death of a brown man - Mark Duggan.
How does that fit your natrative?

I wouldnt have thought its the posters 'attitude' but merely, how does it work in practicality on the ground

I ask this question on every thread where this comes up

Where do you send them given that the receiving country has to agree to take them back. How do you achieve that?

Let's compare the number of mass attacks by white British people in the UK in the last 20 years to the list of Islamist attacks posted above, shall we?

And then apply a multiplier for the proportion of the population: 81% of UK are white versus 6% Muslim. So if there was no difference, then you'd expect 13 times more mass attacks by white British attackers than by Muslims.

FFS.

@Passthebiscuit12

But there have been islamic terror attacks using vehicles & no riots after. That doesn't mean every incident involving a car is terror, Paul Doyle is not classed as terror. I do think targeting children in particular is very emotive & the absence of information fuelled by social media all contributed to the riots.

I am interested in this too. I don’t understand why, given these people have often lived in the UK for years and benefited from our systems / services / opportunities etc they then decide to commit such violent acts. What is the point? They lose their freedom, their right to enjoy the very country they’ve fought to come to, for what? It’s just so bewildering.

(And yes I’m just hypothetically speculating given that we don’t know the particular circumstances here).

I hope the train's CCTV cameras were working.

Given the exorbitant price of rail travel, passengers should have every right to expect a visible security presence on trains.

Get to fuck. That was a terrorist attack, specifically targeting girls who dared to do something like dance because he didn't think that they should be allowed to do that. You can't really be this naive?

Media wouldn't report, its hardly newsworthy, when most in MSM seem to want a Reform Govt.

Yes agree

There is a problem with mass immigration, segregation, and radicalism. It’s a fact and it’s not racist to say it. Regardless of this attack, or actions of bad white/ British people. It’s still a fact. We cannot go on as we are.

💯. Some of these posts could have come straight from Trumps Truth social account.

But I’d argue that Starmer is not negotiating strong enough. The one in one out fell flat on its face within the first week of inception. He’s just trying to offer crumbs to cover up the fact that he doesn’t care about the situation, because that’s who Labour are. They don’t really care about uncontrolled immigration. In fact many of his party are very much pro immigration.

100%

Is this thread more concerning to you than the actual crime?

It’s one of their core voter groups.

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Japan manage it very successfully.

I disagree, he got a better deal than the Tories ever did & should the trial develop into a mass deportation scheme, then it might work.

Conference in 8 minutes .. some clarity I hope

Hugely disrespectful to those who have genuine fears and concerns.

@ChicJokeryes exactly.

Why has Mumsnet stopped moderating these threads, which would actually be really important in terms of educating the electorate.

Surely it's way past time for some kind of user verification on Mumsnet. Or better still, they stick to parenting and we can go elsewhere for political debate. All this is doing is riling people.

Terrific post.

Immigration threads are also derailed by the 'My nan was Irish! My grandad was Welsh! Would you DEPORT ME?' contingent who pretend to have no understanding that Ireland, or Wales, or various other countries are far more culturally similar to the UK than swathes of the Middle East, North and East Africa, and South Asia.

Yes can you imagine if I put my child onto an overcrowded unsafe free boat and they died. I’d rightly have any future child taken off me and I’d be serving time.