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Labour isn't working - Thread 11

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TheNuthatch · 29/09/2025 22:18

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:18

BorneBackCeaselesslyIntoThePas · 06/10/2025 11:11

I’m working on the idea that Labour are playing the long game. This is their chance to fundamentally change our society. They know this will mean they will be thrown out at the next election, but they have tilted the playing field in their direction and their pay off will come later in a glorious utopia

Welcome.

Sounds plausible. Its not my version of utopia. Its financial and societal breakdown.

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upseedaisee · 06/10/2025 11:18

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:16

The latest French PM has resigned 🤯

Crikey. Another one? I suppose that's what you get when you fix the vote.

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:19

upseedaisee · 06/10/2025 11:18

Crikey. Another one? I suppose that's what you get when you fix the vote.

Yup.
France is fucked.

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Absentosaur · 06/10/2025 11:19

BorneBackCeaselesslyIntoThePas · 06/10/2025 11:11

I’m working on the idea that Labour are playing the long game. This is their chance to fundamentally change our society. They know this will mean they will be thrown out at the next election, but they have tilted the playing field in their direction and their pay off will come later in a glorious utopia

The Fabian way

twistyizzy · 06/10/2025 11:20

Absentosaur · 06/10/2025 11:19

The Fabian way

Exactly 💯

GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 11:32

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:19

Yup.
France is fucked.

UK gilts are moving higher.

Currently 100 bps plus dependent on maturity.

Have that Reeves.

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 11:35

Absentosaur · 06/10/2025 11:13

So tax management as far as is legal, and no selling or buying houses (to avoid enforced digital ID). Brilliant.

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I think it’ll be added to a load of things. It is here without thought to the electorate, manifesto or anything.

I concur with @TheNuthatchon loathing them.

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 11:36

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:16

The latest French PM has resigned 🤯

And people keep posting about ever higher spending.

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:40

Just watching Victoria Atkins at conference. She wearing a union jack blazer, and has dozens of farmers behind her holding 'Starmer the farmer harmer' signs. Love it 😀

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justasking111 · 06/10/2025 12:58

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 10:54

@Absentosaurjust pasting it from the other thread, hope they don’t mind

Starmer wants to change the system for buying and selling houses. It will require digital ID.

Deploying the use of digital tools – including digital property logbooks, digital ID verification, and standardised data sharing – enhancing transparency and security for buyers and sellers.
From Gov.uk

I don’t think there’s much to stop Labour writing this condition wherever they want. It’s the new ‘bedrock of the state’ after all.

What can be done? People are happy to let Starmer do whatever. I can only hope they get utterly trounced at next GE.

So id to buy. Will it be id to rent though. Or Airbnb?

justasking111 · 06/10/2025 13:03

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 11:19

Yup.
France is fucked.

So is Holland. I've just seen an anti Israeli march in Amsterdam. Tens of thousands of protesters.

justasking111 · 06/10/2025 13:06

There's a vote on October 14th to reduce rice production. Methane issues apparently. We're not talking about slapping steak on a plate but a basic food stuff for tens of millions.

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GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 13:27

Sickness benefit….

Labour isn't working - Thread 11
strawberrybubblegum · 06/10/2025 13:31

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 10:54

@Absentosaurjust pasting it from the other thread, hope they don’t mind

Starmer wants to change the system for buying and selling houses. It will require digital ID.

Deploying the use of digital tools – including digital property logbooks, digital ID verification, and standardised data sharing – enhancing transparency and security for buyers and sellers.
From Gov.uk

I don’t think there’s much to stop Labour writing this condition wherever they want. It’s the new ‘bedrock of the state’ after all.

What can be done? People are happy to let Starmer do whatever. I can only hope they get utterly trounced at next GE.

Blimey, he didn't wait long before expanding the remit, did he?

So much for non-mandatory?

What other intentions is he still hiding?

upseedaisee · 06/10/2025 13:50

I think we've all said it in some way or another, George Orwell would not like the idea that he had foretold the future.
I knew there would be further embellishments added to this ID card nonsense

upseedaisee · 06/10/2025 13:52

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 13:22

More consequences of the renters rights bill. Landlords increasingly turning towards accepting long term contracts to house asylum seekers to avoid the consequences of the bill. Reducing housing stock even further.

https://inews.co.uk/news/landlords-opt-house-asylum-seekers-home-office-contractors-private-rents-3953480

It's almost like it was engineered😠

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 13:53

strawberrybubblegum · 06/10/2025 13:31

Blimey, he didn't wait long before expanding the remit, did he?

So much for non-mandatory?

What other intentions is he still hiding?

There’s nothing to stop him adding pretty much anything. You don’t have to have it but you can’t do anything in modern life anywhere. Easy as pie to write those three words in. Orwell 1984, well done Labourites.

EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 13:54

GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 13:27

Sickness benefit….

Blimey. Fiscal incontinence indeed.

TheNuthatch · 06/10/2025 14:06

GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 13:27

Sickness benefit….

That is shocking.

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GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 14:10

@upseedaisee I think you are right, and I should also stop looking at the news media….

Rivalled · 06/10/2025 14:25

In the run up to the budget it might be good for all of us to cut news a bit - endless speculation on tax rises and it’s so wearing.

justasking111 · 06/10/2025 14:28

upseedaisee · 06/10/2025 13:52

It's almost like it was engineered😠

My friend works for a council who are responsible for the engineering. She's moving thet family to a home off grid practically.

GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 14:31

Almost 25,000 pupils have been forced out of private schools since Labour came into power, new figures show.

A survey of 1,150 private schools showed a decline of 16,696 pupils since last September – equivalent to 3.6pc – according to the Independent Schools Council (ISC).

The previous year’s poll saw a decline by 8,233 pupils after Sir Keir Starmer vowed to impose 20pc VAT on “day one” of a Labour Government.

Julie Robinson, chief executive of the ISC, told The Telegraph: “The decline in pupil numberssince the general election is now at least 25,000 – over eight times the fall the Government predicted by this point.

Thats only a 200 mn quid per annum cost to the state….

twistyizzy · 06/10/2025 14:36

GabrielsOboe · 06/10/2025 14:31

Almost 25,000 pupils have been forced out of private schools since Labour came into power, new figures show.

A survey of 1,150 private schools showed a decline of 16,696 pupils since last September – equivalent to 3.6pc – according to the Independent Schools Council (ISC).

The previous year’s poll saw a decline by 8,233 pupils after Sir Keir Starmer vowed to impose 20pc VAT on “day one” of a Labour Government.

Julie Robinson, chief executive of the ISC, told The Telegraph: “The decline in pupil numberssince the general election is now at least 25,000 – over eight times the fall the Government predicted by this point.

Thats only a 200 mn quid per annum cost to the state….

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Amd that's only ISC schools. There's another 1000 unaccounted for.
The 8000 decline quoted was in Sept 24.

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